What are the most tolerant metropolitan areas in the US?

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Measured by foreign-born and GLBT populations, and level of integration, California has the top 4.

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/neighborhoods/2012/07/geography-tolerance/2241/

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

Surprised to see purple in Utah.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

oh there's purple here

Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

At the 2010 Census, 80.4% of the population was non-Hispanic White, down from 91.2% in 1990 ... 13.0% of Utah's population was of Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin (they may be of any race).

fit and working again, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

also the capital of the dire new heteronormativity iirc

Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

anyway this is basically 'where hispanics live' divided by population boundaries, most convenient first. you might be able to get an accurate read on tolerance by asking about the attitudes of the dominant (white) culture, not asking 'how many brown ppl r there,' but that wouldn't have nearly as much purple

Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

Utah is v tolerant of foreign-born populations - well, if they convert to Mormonism!

sarahell, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

utahns love samoans until they move to west valley and create 'gang problems'

Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

maybe everything I've heard is wrong and inaccurate but putting San Diego at the top of a "most tolerant place" list is hilarious

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

xp - haha!

sarahell, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

xp DJP, yeah, this is an odd list -- Santa Cruz/Watsonville - weird.

sarahell, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

lmao worcester, ma

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

what a disaster for listicles

Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:04 (thirteen years ago)

it's true, if there's one place I think of as an oasis of tolerance in MA, it's Worcester

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:04 (thirteen years ago)

maybe, if we're lucky, bamcquern will come along and describe the oasis that is Cape Coral-Fort Myers, FL

sarahell, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

(it could be an oasis, for all i know, i've never been there)

sarahell, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

Matt P, plenty of Latinos in metro NYC, but it's not there

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

http://fch.ju.edu/FCH-2006/Winsboro-An%20Historical%20Perspective%20on%20Public%20School%20Desegregation%20in%20Florida.htm

Ft. Myers is racist as hell. This court order wasn't lifted until the 90s, iirc. Schools still show a lot of de facto segregation through "ability grouping."

People in Ft. Myers have a lot of euphemistic ways of talking about the black and latino middle and working class neighborhoods. I guess, though, that it's not much worse than people in Oakland saying such and such neighborhood is "block by block."

Except for my mom living there, Cape Coral is an insignificant stain.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno whether the "block by block" issue is directly related to racial make-up of those blocks - though as far as the general neighborhood goes, yeah, you're right.

sarahell, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, Cleveland/Cuyahoga County showing a fairly dark purple there, and yet there might as well be a sign in the middle of the Cuyahoga River that says, "BLACKS ON THIS SIDE, WHITES ON THAT SIDE."

Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

all the flames do separate ppl

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

is directly related to racial make-up of those blocks

It's related to the poverty and disfunction of those blocks but, of course, race has very little to do with that...

sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

never does

bamcquern, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

Perish the very thought

sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

*thought perishes*

Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

R.I.P. racism

Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

you might be able to get an accurate read on tolerance by asking about the attitudes of the dominant (white) culture

This, plus how tolerant the established non-white culture is newcomers.

sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

so glad racism has perished.

sarahell, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

also R.I.P. my horribly worded sentence

sarahell, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

maybe everything I've heard is wrong and inaccurate but putting San Diego at the top of a "most tolerant place" list is hilarious

I've spent a fair amount of time in San Diego throughout my life and yes, this is hilarious. I assume it's because of latinos + Hillcrest.

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure that a racially diverse total urban population is no great indicator of how tolerant or diverse the city is block by block.

sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

Ann Arbor doing the heavy lifting for Midwestern tolerance, but that feels p accurate tbh.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

ok, so this is a list of the top lotsa gays + lotsa segregated nonwhites metro areas.

ALMOST the same thing! The ingredients for tolerance are there!

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

lmao worcester, ma

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah waht now?

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

hahahaha from the comments:

The photo accompanying the article is of Toronto. Wasn't there a photo of a pride parade in an American city?

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

Boise Pride

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

this article is so pathetic, i almost feel like trying to defend it out of pity, but

sarahell, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

Atlantic cities site is good but Richard Florida is a huckster

these numbers are meaningless

iatee, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

It's like those lists Forbes puts out constantly about the best places to raise kids/retire/buy property, etc... "But I don't want to live there!"

sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

Absurd. A brief look at most tolerant/purple towns in the Atlantic article on a map with better resolution, like the NYT's map of the 2010 census (see "Distribution of racial and ethnic groups" under view more maps tab) shows how racially segregated most of the nation remains.

I've lived in suburbs that were 30% first generation Asian-American, but its easy to be tolerant where no-one knows their neighbors so long as the lawns are maintained.

Plus the foreign born are not necessarily tolerant of other minorities (like GLBT).

Its hard to make a map of tolerant havens: in my experience certainly SF, Portland, Madison, Austin, parts of central Charlotte and New Orleans, but even cities like Houston have elected openly lesbian mayors. The dividing line on tolerance hasn't been red state/blue state for quite some time, its lily-white exurb vs urban area.

The Painter of Blight™ (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)


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