Character test: Gentlemen's neckwear

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'Can you tell a man's character from his tie?'

This was posed to me by a colleague in the smoking room earlier today. I put it to him that there was certain evidence in favour of the thesis hanging around our own necks, his reply being that I was creative and fun and mine being that I thought I was chaos and he was order, but I would be more than happy to accept creative and describe him as organised and detailed.

This is one of those 'do you fancy Betty or Veronica? ' tests, I suspect.

Tim Bateman, Wednesday, 18 September 2002 10:12 (twenty-three years ago)

i don't really wear ties much. if i do, they must be black.

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 10:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I think you can tell a man's character from the size of his tie knot. Massive Windsor = prat.

Sam (chirombo), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 10:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Have you seen those really good SImpsons / South Park ties. Its like conforming to wearing a tie but at the same time not only subverting it but also displaying your grebt sense of humour. I would imagine if you wore one to an interview tyou are bound to get the job, and if you didn't you wouldn't want to stick with such humourless Joes.

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 10:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Too right! That one where Bart shows his arse!

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 10:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I've worn a tie once since I left school, for a funeral. I see them as symbols of submission or ownership - like a dog collar. I guess I just don't like things round my neck.
I might change my mind if I could find one that would express my wacky individual ways, like say a Homer Simpson tie. That would be sooo hilarious.

Pete has replied while I was writing this. Pete did you know you can also get Simsons socks too? It's like from the outside you're just another guy in the office, but around your ankles you're a real comedian - not like those other squares.

Simeon (Simeon), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 10:35 (twenty-three years ago)

You've overlooked the joy of a Simpsons mug, spreading the hilarity to coffee time (my boyfriend actually got one of these from a colleague last Christmas).

I think you could tell a lot about someone wearing a cravat.

Ellie (Ellie), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 11:17 (twenty-three years ago)

a cravat is the only answer.

jon (jon), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 12:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Outdress your boss its' the mod way.

I hate people who wear un-ironed shirts and crappy nylon ties as if to say - I'm still hip its just the man who makes me wear a tie. Whereas they are all just lazy nerds with poor sartorial skills. You look like a slob not a rebel.

tigerclawskank, Wednesday, 18 September 2002 13:27 (twenty-three years ago)

It takes balls to wear a cravat when it's not going to be possible to pretend that you're being all ironic about it.

Ladies, a man who knows how to tie a cravat correctly will be dynamite in bed. True story.

Windsors need not be monsterous. A properly tied windsor is the sign of a man who has taken the time to learn a little something since his mum used to stand behind him and tie the common knot.

Ladies, a man who knows how to tie a good windsor will have no trouble simultaneously locating your clitoris and g-spot. True story.

Michael A. (Michael A.), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Tigerclaw slobs ARE rebels!! Did you miss the 1990s or something?

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:18 (twenty-three years ago)

A word on ties from everybodys favourite Doctor:
http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/aug00/tiejob.html

And a Dog in a Cravat!
http://members.tripod.com/Jes24601/id42.htm

Simeon (Simeon), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:25 (twenty-three years ago)

A man who uses his penis as his tie will be a cyclone in the sack.

lawrence kansas, Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I no longer wear suits to work, but when I did I had an enormous collection of ties. Well, about 20 anyway. Many were very splendid. It only costs about £20-£30 to get a good tie and then you're like 'hey - nice tie'. Good shirts are important too.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 14:40 (twenty-three years ago)

So that's £500 for a tie collection, Nick? My three suits, plus all the shirts and ties and shoes that go with them cost a total of less than £400. I end up looking tolerably smart; I guess if I thought I could look fantastic by spending and caring more I might try, but those who have seen me know I'd be on a loser. Actually, since FAPs are mostly midweek, some here will only have seen me in a suit.

Tim, who started this thread, wears ties more outside work hours than any man of our generation should.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 17:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Probably not, cause some of ties were cheaper than that and some were gifts. But hey, it's a gradually built up collection. Think how much you've spent on records. One of my suits cost £350 or so, which was beyond my means on a £15K salary but it was *nice*. A good suit, shirt, tie and shoes makes *anyone* look great.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 17:36 (twenty-three years ago)

even if I wear a tie, which is almost never, I still look a wreck as I refuse to do up the top button on my shirt, as if I do I start doing that "...can't breath...gasp...choke..." routine.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 17:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Have you bought new shirts since you were 8, jel?

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 17:56 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah...but you know it's like a reflex reaction. I can't help it. I've got some shirts I've had since I was 15.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 18:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Think how much you've spent on records.

Nick, this may make sense to you, but it doesn't to me. It's as if someone said to me "You don't want to spend £1000 on vases? Think how much money you've spent on food!" I don't say that this balance of priorities is better than anyone else's, but it's what I am stuck with. And until I got this job, I don't suppose I'd spent £400 on all clothes (that was just work stuff) in any decade of my life.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 18:53 (twenty-three years ago)

it's clear that N. is rockist about clothes.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 18:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Spending $20 on a tie is extravagant. If you shop in the right places, you should be able to find kick-ass ties for $10 or less. (The best tie bargain I've found: a hotel gift store selling silk ties for $25 apiece, or 3 for $30. I think the store manager failed math.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 19:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Women in ties (specifically Toni and Guy sponsored quasi-alterno teenage girls with at least two items of Sanrio stationery): c/d?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 20:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Women in ties

absolutely damn classic and k-rowr

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 22:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I only wear clip ons.Does this make people think I'm lazy?

brg30 (brg30), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 22:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Clip ons! I didn't know they really existed outside of comics. That's wicked good.

Yes jel, you are right.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 23:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Clip ons are fair enough if you work in a job where assault is an everyday risk, like traffic wardens. Otherwise noooooooo.

Or if you are being ironic obviously.

tigerclawskank, Friday, 20 September 2002 10:12 (twenty-three years ago)


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