msnbc: The Place for POLLitics

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How msnbc became Fox's Liberal Evil Twin

Which one of these smug bastards/bastettes is the LEAST detrimental to the quality of public discourse. Are any of them worth a damn?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Rachel Maddow 16
Chris Hayes 9
Tamron Hall 4
Melissa Harris-Perry 3
Touré 2
Krystal Ball 2
Chuck Todd 1
Willie Geist 1
Al Sharpton 1
Chris Matthews 1
Alex Witt 0
Lawrence O'Donnell 0
Ed Schultz 0
Martin Bashir 0
Steve Kornacki 0
S.E. Cupp 0
Andrea Mitchell 0
Alex Wagner 0
Thomas Roberts 0
Chris Jansing 0
Mika Brzezinksi 0
Joe Scarborough 0


Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

Joe Scarborough seems like a dude with a dead hooker in his past.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

My only experiences with Morning Joe come from the Daily Show clips and that bit from last week where everyone sat around awkwardly when Chris Matthews went apeshit on that RNC Chairman.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

RIP Dylan Ratigan

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

hayes, maddow & harris-perry are totally awesome. the only watchable hosts on cable news, and some of the best major political commenters imo

i voted for hayes cuz he's cute

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

never seen hayes show so no idea how we works on tv but enjoy his writing and credit him w/ the nation doing a sports issue which will continue to amuse me for a long time.

balls, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i like Hayes. i have a lot of respect for Maddow, but there is something slightly off-putting about her. she's got a smart-ass/ silly thing that i personally don't mind watching but she sure as shit isn't going to win over any converts. not her mission though so eh

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

unfortunately his show is on at pre-sunrise hours on weekends. i'll catch some segments online tho.

was sorta interested in alex wagner cuz she used to exec edit the fader but she seemed really hacky on bill maher recently

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

Wagner mostly just mediates the guests so I can't get a read on her editorially but I also have a mad crush on her + amusing to hear Floating Points or whatevs going into ad breaks

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

Chris Hayes' show is the only one sharp enough for me to actually stream three days later.

And it got me to read his new book.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

Hayes' downfall is he looks exactly like -- the resemblance is scary -- one of my best bros, also a denizen of DC; my friend is often confused for Hayes when in Dupont Circle.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i haven't seen wagner's show but on maher she was, like, trumpeting up obama killing al-awlaki and stuff. maybe she's still trying to find her voice tho, i'm not sure how long she's been doing cable news.

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

she wasn't at all cool with the killing citizens and we're not going to tell you why it is legal thing, and i think she had greenwald on to talk about it. can't remember though.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

Being essentially cableless, I do not have MSNBC or FOX either. The only person mentioned in this poll who I have seen in action is Maddow. She didn't seem especially awful in the few minutes I have been exposed to her.

Aimless, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

otoh Chuck Todd is one of the worst nerds alive.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

Wait, who is Krystal Ball?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

I like Rachel Maddow a lot, and Chris Hayes too (but like J0rdan said, his show comes on at a ridiculous hour on weekends). Alex Wagner seems way too ideological, even for msnbc.

I miss Norah O'Donnell.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

otoh Chuck Todd is one of the worst nerds alive.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, September 4, 2012 5:36 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

he went to UM

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

btw

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

of the ones i have seen barely i would rank maddow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matthews >> o'donnell > scarborough > schultz > sharpton. note: i have seen maybe 2 hours top of the above combined (minus matthews). bring back charles grodin.

balls, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

a Kendall guy!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

maybe i have the wrong read on wagner. i was sorta surprised at how she came off on maher (all the bad stereotypes of an msnbc host tho far off of ed) given her background. does she host weekday stuff?

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

I have seen S E Cupp :(

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

She has the noon EST show on weekdays xpost

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

o'donnell > scarborough > schultz > sharpton

I'd throw all these dudes out the window of a moving bus.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

Scarborough also a Floridian -- ugh. Sorry, guys!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

Wait, who is Krystal Ball?

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:36 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

an accountant who unsuccessfully ran for congress

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

i have a very visceral hatred of Martin Bashir and I think he might be the worst of the lot tbh

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

Scarborough also a Floridian

Panhandle Floridian...no one should hold those people against the rest of the state.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

One of my favorite msnbc things is watching Tamron Hall get irritated by a guest.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

MH-P is one of the greatest living people

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

Her lisp is adorable.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

it's been often said that there is no such person, but who among current tv news ppl is close enough to cronkite that you could imagine a president saying ""if i've lost cronkite, I've lost middle america." like who is the most middle american tv new person, or who is trying to be that person the most? brian williams?

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

"if I've lost rachel maddow...I've lost middle america"

iatee, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

shep

Newgod joins this board, and quickly he's some dude (goole), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think Wolf Blitzer's own mother would want him found if he was lost.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/martinbashirmusic/music/albums/bass-lion-16775688

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

The question is no longer valid, Mordy. We find channels that mirror our belief systems. Of course, since I don't have cable I'm watching Diane Sawyer now. Draw your own conclusions.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

ok, so assume question is valid. or that someone can be striving for something that no longer exists.

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

I think one of the only areas in which NBC wins out is in the nightly news sector. Brian Williams seems to be liked by most everyone, but he's nowhere near having the influence of Walter Kronkite.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

cronkite didn't have the influence of cronkite tbh

balls, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

fuxk, why do I always want to spell Cronkite with a K?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

i don't have cable so i haven't seen much other than a few clips, but going with chris hayes just because i liked his columns for the nation so much back in the day.

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

alex wagner because HOT

k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

Brian Williams is scary because he's a blank. Remember when crusty William Holden complained about TV babies? He meant Brian Williams. The guy offers no inflections, turns of phrase, or even warmth. He's a guy with varnished looks who reads briefs.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

(I'm a partisan of the late Peter Jennings partisan)

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

Williams is blank at the desk, but always funny and charming elsewhere.

I loved Peter Jennings. He was the best.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:12 (thirteen years ago)

He's great on 30 Rock though.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

I agree that Alex Wagner is totally adorbs, btw. I just can't vote for her.

http://accidentalalien.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/alexwagner-politcsdaily.png

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

haha -- scratch off that last partisan. Second glass of wine etc

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

I record Up or just watch it online. It also neatly contains my msnbc watching to two days a week. I like that they can look back on a story and discuss it rather than covering the daily bullshit. I hope it stays a panel.

Gukbe, Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:53 (twelve years ago)

Kornacki can be okay-ish on election breakdowns sometimes, but other than that there is nothing good about The Cycle from what I've seen.

Gukbe, Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:54 (twelve years ago)

I'll miss Up, but anything that gets Ed Schultz off the air is a good thing.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:14 (twelve years ago)

Oh I just saw he's getting a weekend evening show. Ungh.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)

Steve Kornacki to take up over Up.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 17:18 (twelve years ago)

ten months pass...

i've had msnbc on for hours now, with no audio, while i'm working (too lazy to even turn it off, i suppose). from just the video feed, here's my impression of their current focus:

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Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:18 (eleven years ago)

Dems watching need red meat

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:21 (eleven years ago)

not upset at msnbc taking christie down. still, it's a little ridiculous.

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:22 (eleven years ago)

i don't need red-meat, anyway. i need waffles and scotch.

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:23 (eleven years ago)

it's only not ridiculous when Steve Kornacki leads the charge; the rest is baroque.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:24 (eleven years ago)

haha

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:24 (eleven years ago)

steve kornacki is a very serious journalist.

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:25 (eleven years ago)

two years pass...

Joe Scarbrough's dead pig eyes

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 2 December 2016 12:20 (eight years ago)

Mark Halpern's spittle-flecked bootlicker mouth

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 2 December 2016 12:21 (eight years ago)

Panel of old white men nodding sagely at each other

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 2 December 2016 12:22 (eight years ago)

http://i68.tinypic.com/2zdui69.jpg

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 2 December 2016 12:25 (eight years ago)

Maddow is insufferable. love Joe & Hayes. Matthews can be fun.

flappy bird, Friday, 2 December 2016 19:40 (eight years ago)

hayes is smart and usually right on but he's smug and annoying as fuck

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Friday, 2 December 2016 19:41 (eight years ago)

i hate most of these people tbh

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Friday, 2 December 2016 19:42 (eight years ago)

he's not nearly as smug as the rest of this crew. i enjoyed his book Twilight of the Elites. and he's a better listener/conversationalist than Maddow or fucking Melissa Harris-Perry (glad she's gone).

flappy bird, Friday, 2 December 2016 19:43 (eight years ago)

Joy Reid thinks Russia is still Communist. She went to Harvard.

Iago Galdston, Friday, 2 December 2016 23:49 (eight years ago)

eight months pass...

http://www.stereogum.com/1948704/joe-scarborough-released-his-debut-ep-today/news/

The Man Who Saw The Midwife (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 17 August 2017 12:14 (eight years ago)

one month passes...
six months pass...

i can't watch rachel maddow for even a minute anymore. i can't hear her voice. it drives me nuts. what happened?

i mean i watch morning joe in the morning now but i can't take even a sliver of maddow.

scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2018 15:20 (seven years ago)

maria is the same way actually. can't take her. and maria was definitely a fan. i think i was too but it was so long ago i can't remember when it was. dubya years i guess.

scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2018 15:22 (seven years ago)

kinda like when i accidentally hear amy goodman on the car radio. i jump out of my skin.

scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2018 15:23 (seven years ago)

Morning Joe was always pretty terrible but they've accidentally spun closer to reality over the years.

Rachel's show has just become an insane litany of Russia Russia Russia and dumbass Trump impeachment/arrest countdowns. I can't watch it.

my dreams in the hell-pits (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 14 April 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)

Chris Hayes is great though

frogbs, Saturday, 14 April 2018 22:22 (seven years ago)

Who voted for Chris Matthews??

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 15 April 2018 00:06 (seven years ago)

i would vote for mika if this poll was today. fuck trump.

scott seward, Sunday, 15 April 2018 00:56 (seven years ago)

xxp I wish Twitter Chris Hayes hosted his show

my dreams in the hell-pits (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 15 April 2018 07:22 (seven years ago)

this joy reid stuff is so fucking dumb man

k3vin k., Friday, 27 April 2018 22:21 (seven years ago)

yeah I agree

Dan S, Friday, 27 April 2018 22:31 (seven years ago)

Did anything dumber develop today?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 27 April 2018 22:56 (seven years ago)

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/4/27/17286392/joy-reid-msnbc-lgbtq-gay-hack

maybe 'weird' would have been a better word to use

k3vin k., Sunday, 29 April 2018 20:53 (seven years ago)

nine months pass...

what our poll winner's up to these days

Glenn Beck 2009 + Maddow 2019 is the greatest crossover event in history pic.twitter.com/D1NElGBq3U

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) January 31, 2019

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 31 January 2019 09:31 (six years ago)

ROOSHA WILL FREEZE US

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:39 (six years ago)

I really like the Why Is This Happening? podcast when I remember to listen to it. I appreciate hearing a discussion of our current reality that manages to make me feel better informed but also slightly saner.

JoeStork, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:48 (six years ago)

nine months pass...

This would be hilarious if it weren’t so slanderous and destructive. Liberals laugh at Fox news but this is just as toxic.

Also, ex-FBI, totally credible source here. https://t.co/8OXKk8VI3K

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) November 24, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 November 2019 12:16 (five years ago)

jesus

so glad the Democrats have defaulted back to Cold War paranoia

With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 25 November 2019 12:23 (five years ago)

joy reid is by far the worst msnbc host

treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 15:29 (five years ago)

at least in terms of her vendetta against bernie. cf.

I didn't answer your biased reporting about Bernie during the last 2 years @JoyAnnReid. But don't ever use me to demean my husband. I am very happy & very proud to be Bernie's wife. Your perception couldn't be more wrong. Have you ever talked with him? You've never spoken w/me. https://t.co/SZG7uV8cfO

— Jane O'Meara Sanders (@janeosanders) November 29, 2017

treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 15:31 (five years ago)

but yeah, the cold war paranoia stuff is obviously not limited to her

treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 15:38 (five years ago)

five months pass...

Isaac Chotiner interviews Chris Hayes.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:25 (five years ago)

five years pass...

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/18/business/media/msnbc-new-name-ms-now.html

"As part of a corporate spinoff from Comcast, MSNBC is changing its name to My Source News Opinion World, or MS NOW, for short."

jaymc, Monday, 18 August 2025 15:58 (two weeks ago)

Microsoft NOW

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 18 August 2025 16:04 (two weeks ago)

Hmmm. Comcast is disassociating itself from MSNBC, eh? Feels like more spineless C-Suite execs rushing to stay on the good side of our newly-anointed dictator.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 18 August 2025 17:17 (two weeks ago)

My Source for News, Opinion, World!

sounds like they're getting ready to sell the whole thing off to a spam company

z_tbd, Monday, 18 August 2025 17:22 (two weeks ago)

xp The spinoff was announced in mid-Nov. 2024 but seems to have been in the works since before the election: https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/19/media/comcast-nbcuniversal-cable-spinoff-msnbc

jaymc, Monday, 18 August 2025 17:32 (two weeks ago)


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