are you donating to barack obama's campaign?

just wondering so i can commiserate with anyone else who's getting ten damn emails a day

I sent a small donation in '08 ($20, I think--the only political donation I've made in my life), got it returned because I'm Canadian, and I still get 10 e-mails a day.

i gave a little when he came out publicly for gay marriage. and then a little more just a few weeks ago because i was pissed off at something Romney or Ryan or one of their idiot proxies had said. can't even remember what it was now.

i gave him nothing but a vote in '08.

We did last time and the DNC will NOT STOP CALLING. Every time we say to put the number on their do not call list, and yet they keep calling. So no, we're definitely not donating this election. Sorry, Barry, but get your party to respect the do not call list and we'll talk.

It always makes me laugh when somebody new gets roped into this hellish e-mail assault. "Oh look, Julian Castro--he was just up on stage 20 minutes ago."

DNC certainly would be contracting for those phone contacts. The company gets paid to make those calls and gets extra incentives for delivering donations. Since the law that created the federal no-call list specifically exempts political calls, the company the DNC hired has zero incentive to stop calling you just because you tell them to stop. They don't care how you vote, either.

it's surprising that i haven't ended up on these lists through my mom.

but no. i'll vote for the guy, but i have never and am unlikely ever to donate to a candidate.

yes, and god so many emails, they are relentless.

I donated Tuesday night after Michelle's speech (and also back in 2008) and within minutes of completing my donation, I'd already received two more "we need money" emails and probably another ten since that night.

i'll probably kick in a few bucks because i'm already getting all the e-mails and texts.

i mean i get that they need money but do they really need to ask for money in EVERY SINGLE EMAIL including the one thanking me for just donating?

tbf now is not the time to play it cool and hope you'll feel like donating again in 2 months

Need some sort of counter to keep track of how many e-mails since this thread went up--two so far.

donated a few times in 08, donate monthly now, the emails are like background noise for me

i donated in 2008, received a democratic party membership card (?!) in the mail, sent them a terse email saying i didn't quite know if this was a gimmick or if i was really now a registered democrat but that i'd much prefer not to be, and don't get emails. occupy got me on some lists, but all of those emails are about how banks are foreclosing on people. i know, guys. i know they are.

the law that created the federal no-call list specifically exempts political calls

I did not know this! It actually makes me feel better. I'm still not giving any more money, though.

My wife donated a few bucks last week when she had the credit card out for something else. All the emails go to her, no phone calls yet.

I bought him a pred ship

The do-not-call list also exempts organizations that you have a relationship with. For instance, if you were to make a donation to Planned Parenthood, they would be able to call you, too.

lol, they should send this out:

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/418701_3899100445073_1559537530_n.jpg

or this:

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/09/broken-democratic-platform-promises-from-2008.html

it's like you never left

http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/small/1007/hes-back-logic-returns-to-our-minds-demotivational-poster-1279846014.png

srsly wtf are you suckers thinking? come watch this 3-card monte game i got goin...

The question is not whether you are so smart that you can see through the deceptions, but whether any of the choices available to you (including not voting, voting third party, or becoming an OWS activist) presents itself as preferable to the others, in terms of probable outcomes.

Feeling anger that the choices available to you are far from appealing is legitimate, but it doesn't get you any closer to making a constructive choice. Rejecting every choice is the worst possible option. It just freezes you into a static, angry place with no possibility of escape.

but that's where we are. sometimes, there is no escape. I thought OWS provided a 0.25% chance of escape, but it appears to have been all but extinguished.

Also, you are nearly defining choices exclusively in terms of parties and voting. Dr King would not approve.

I am not defining your choices, morbs. I did mention several choices that were among those available to anyone, including you. If, as you seem to assert, you think that nothing you could do or omit to do would make any difference to the set of possible outcomes, then I fail to see the source of your anger, at, or even your interest in, politics.

I don't know, powerlessness and anger seem to correlate pretty well from what I know.

Only if one imagines there is an alternative.

if Dr. King were alive he'd definitely be trolling message boards and calling the first black president's wife a bitch

I think you know what the first answer that comes to mind there is.

Not sure. I'll perhaps volunteer, as I have in the past, but I like being a bit more selective. My last political donations were to Jim Webb, who successfully took a Virginia senate seat in 2006, and Elwyn Tinklenberg, the Dem running for (and leading) in Michelle Bachmann's congressional seat in 2008. My own district and state are now so infuriatingly red that volunteering locally would only be a gesture to demonstrate there are some progressives/environmentalists left.

Joe Biden thinks I'd be good at grassroots fundraising, according to latest email. Personally, I doubt it.

I remember reading Dykes To Watch Out For in 2004 in which GINGER was addicted to watching the election news and got in relationship trouble for donating $500 to Kerry on last-minute impulse. And it blew my mind, regular middle-class folks actually donating to presidential campaigns! It was like reading a comic in which Ginger bought a second lake house or got Botox. I guess I hadn't realized that I thought political donations were solely the province of the rich.

So angry about all the calls.

Elwyn Tinklenberg, the Dem running for (and leading) in Michelle Bachmann's congressional seat in 2008

Y'all should all give some $$ to that Graves guy whos running against ol Crazy Eyes and not doing to shabbily! Would love to see her get the hook.

Just got another call from the IL democratic party asking, and even knowing what I know now about DNC lists, I very adamantly said, "Do not call here again! I do not want any more calls from the Democratic party!" and the guy says, indignantly, "Whaddaya Republican?"

LOL

Mr Veg donated $15 to get a sticker or something -thank you email asked if he wanted to up his donation by clicking x link, and a week later after the DNC speech got like 5 emails that day all "HAY DO U WANNA DONATE MORE NOW?"

I've gotten some really reasonable calls lately, mostly asking me to volunteer. I got a call this afternoon asking me if I wanted to drive out to Iowa to knock on doors and stuff. I told him I was planning to drive up to Milwaukee, because it's a lot closer. He totally understood, and noted that the campaign wants to stress Iowa right now because Wisconsin numbers are better, but I said that didn't make Iowa any closer. He laughed and told me there were lots of people waiting for the call up to Wisconsin for the same reason.

Why $188?

i went to donate, but they wouldn't take paypal. afterwards i started getting the stream of emails (to be fair it was really about 1 a day, which is 29 a month too many) but when i clicked the "take me off this mailing list" button the begging emails stopped within a few days iirc

Weirdest e-mail yet: a "Get out the vote in San Francisco" plea. Is this really necessary?

Yes, popular vote total matters!

no it doesnt

I see what Tim means--extra votes in SF don't matter electorally, but they're trying to head off fallout from an electoral/popular vote split. (Even though many of us would greatly enjoy the ensuing Republican meltdown.)

Oh, I believe it very much does. It's certainly not as black and white as whether someone has a "mandate" or not, but I see no reason whey there wouldn't be some (perhaps substantial) feeling that there is justice in sticking to principles if the pres. prevails in the popular vote.

xp to kevin

feeling amongst population, I mean

we talked about this on one of the 23 other active politics threads but imo if anything gets ppl talking about how dumb the electoral college is, that's fine w/ me. i sort of fail to see how the 'fallout' would lead to any more hostility than what we have now. worrying about that amounts to some pretty incredible concern trolling

I understand, but am still in favor of SF GOTV.

steal from san franciscans, give to obama

Well, of course they're worried about it--why wouldn't they be? Given a choice between having more than 50% of the vote or less than that, phrases like "concern trolling" don't really enter into it.

I think it's obvious clemenza has been preselected for the 2012 Democrat Party Brooks Brothers riot, it's going to be all Canadians and Somalis this time around.

sure but there's probably places that'll get them a little more bang for their buck in terms fo GOTV xp

i'm one of his top supporters, according to the emails, which is really not a good sign

practice these emphatic gestures and you'll be fine http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/event/609/480/21465696-reuters-photo.jpg

As I said in my first post, it struck me as a strange e-mail. Having thought about it, maybe SF is exactly what you'd target--a place where you know you'll dominate, but where because it's a safe city in a safe state, many people may calculate that not voting (out of laziness, or disappointment in Obama) won't matter. Those calculations are expressed all the time here.

lots of reasons:

it's a form email
want to make people feel like they're involved/something is at stake, gets them donating
president is leader of his party, state dems can always use help
a lot of people don't get the electoral college and are persuadable on the above

It's also not just an issue of whether Republicans need any other excuse to be more obstructionist, but that they could play an Obama popular vote loss to some media advantage that, at the very least, I don't want to sit through.