how's this double feature i treated myself to the other nite: TO DIE FOR vs BODY HEAT

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i DVR'd both of these movies months and months ago just on some "oh hey i don't know anything about that movie except it has actors i love in it" shit.

the other nite i ended up randomly watching them back-to-back and was kind of floored by how thematically similar they were, not to mention how great they are on their own!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1uPXA1ceNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AA_OzWyBqs

Poll Results

OptionVotes
BODY HEAT 10
TO DIE FOR 8


❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

to die for is a movie i remember very fondly

horseshoe, Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

it's been a long time since i saw it

horseshoe, Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

Kael was right about Body Heat; it's sleepy as fuck and Mickey Rourke is the only entertaining thing in it.

Dillon is really funny in To Die For.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:48 (thirteen years ago)

if you watch body heat w/ an eye for it turning out sort of campy in its attempt at being noirish its not sleepy at all!!

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

and rourke is totally forgettable

who the fuck is kael

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

what ever happened to ileana douglas anyway?

horseshoe, Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

lol i think he means pauline kael

horseshoe, Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

oh lol ok

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:56 (thirteen years ago)

lol

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:57 (thirteen years ago)

i enjoyed both these films

lag∞n, Friday, 21 September 2012 00:26 (thirteen years ago)

i saw body heat in the theater, ted danson has a nice little part iirc

buzza, Friday, 21 September 2012 01:04 (thirteen years ago)

nudge nudge

lag∞n, Friday, 21 September 2012 01:05 (thirteen years ago)

Body Heat kinda half-full non-remake of Duble Indemnity

TDF p funny (script by Buck Henry) but get a lil obvious after awhile. Breahthrough J Phoenix perf.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 September 2012 01:37 (thirteen years ago)

Body Heat kinda half-full non-remake of Duble Indemnity

kind of a prequel iirc??

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 21 September 2012 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

ted danson has a nice little part iirc

this was like within a year of Cheers' first season i think

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 21 September 2012 01:40 (thirteen years ago)

Omg love J Phoenix in TDF! I havent seen Body Heat in a thousand years. <3 80's Mickey Rourke

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 September 2012 01:41 (thirteen years ago)

kathleen turner and nicole kidman are both smoking hot in these too

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 21 September 2012 01:48 (thirteen years ago)

only kathleen turner gets naked though

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 21 September 2012 01:48 (thirteen years ago)

kathleen was a megafox for a while there

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 September 2012 01:49 (thirteen years ago)

body heat

the best Laid jams (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 September 2012 01:52 (thirteen years ago)

there's lots of sex scenes in body heat but the one where she's getting it from behind and its a closeup on her face and she goes "no! don't stop..." as her face is getting buried in the mattress made me all :O

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 21 September 2012 01:52 (thirteen years ago)

damn i love joaquin phoenix and william hurt equally too, i really can't decide whom i like better out of those two (both in these movies and out of their whole careers)

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 21 September 2012 01:54 (thirteen years ago)

The big problem with To Die For, imo, was that Kidman was not dialed in to the the right tone for her character and Van Sant let her run with an interpretation that was far too cartoony and bubble-headed to mesh with the rest of the characters. otoh, Turner's bad girl chops work against Hurt's not-quite-bright-enough-to-see-what's-up with commendable subtlety. As I recall. Been a lot of years since I saw it.

Aimless, Friday, 21 September 2012 01:57 (thirteen years ago)

omg no she's perfect

horseshoe, Friday, 21 September 2012 02:01 (thirteen years ago)

how can you even say that

horseshoe, Friday, 21 September 2012 02:01 (thirteen years ago)

the rest of her career has been one long disappointment

horseshoe, Friday, 21 September 2012 02:01 (thirteen years ago)

^ this

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 September 2012 02:03 (thirteen years ago)

I disliked Body Heat when it came out, and never went back for another look. To Die For I liked pretty well, especially Kidman dancing on her car to "Sweet Home Alabama," and the great ending with "Season of the Witch," and it held up when I watched it a second time.

clemenza, Friday, 21 September 2012 02:03 (thirteen years ago)

much prefer Turner in Man w/ Two Brains and Crimes of Passion

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 September 2012 02:05 (thirteen years ago)

i meant kidman was perfect, to be clear.

horseshoe, Friday, 21 September 2012 02:09 (thirteen years ago)

Romancing The Stone is my Kathleen Turner jam (hi I'm a cheezball)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 September 2012 02:11 (thirteen years ago)

Kidman dancing on her car

she dances in front of the car, illuminated by its headlights

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 21 September 2012 02:49 (thirteen years ago)

how can you even say that

typing skilz, bro, mad typing skilz

Aimless, Friday, 21 September 2012 02:58 (thirteen years ago)

another thread where the men of ilx get their peckers out

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 September 2012 07:31 (thirteen years ago)

haven't seen either of these in an age, i think maybe Van Sant in satire mode is better but i think maybe i wd rather re-watch Body Heat precisely because of its glossy, glazed dreaminess

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 September 2012 07:42 (thirteen years ago)

i saw body heat in the theater, ted danson has a nice little part iirc

― buzza, Friday, September 21, 2012 1:04 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah the dancing scene is great

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 21 September 2012 08:04 (thirteen years ago)

iirc (one of the polls threads?) this isnt the first p great double bill gr80's come up with

idk about the cinema scenes elsewhere but wrt london i always think about double bills and how tragically underused they are as a rescreening vehicle, most indie pop ups here will only do some mouthbreather no-brainer like top gun/ferris bueller or what the fuck ever

in my yoof i saw a fair few interesting ones at the riverside studios in hammersmith but no longer really by the looks of it

anyway, carry on

r|t|c, Friday, 21 September 2012 10:31 (thirteen years ago)

everyman hampstead and of course the scala also used to do some gd dbl bills, back in the day, along w yeah, the more obvious pairings (stalker and the colour of pomegranates at the scala was def too much of a gd thing)

in 'postmodernism and the cultural logic of late capitalism' fredric jameson claims Body Heat as one of the KEY TEXTS of postmodern cinema - pastiche, generic (self)-referentiality, signifiers w/out signification etc etc. nowadays it feels almost like a forgotten film

Ward Fowler, Friday, 21 September 2012 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

just nicked that to read now, haha he claims william hurt as poster boy for a personality-free new generation of actors whose "death of the subject" ... "opens up the possibility of a play of historical allusions to much older roles so that the very style of the acting can now also serve as a "connotator" of the past"

r|t|c, Friday, 21 September 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

xpost, yeah the popups in london seem fairly heavy on lolz/hackneyed cult movies/costume-based stuff.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Friday, 21 September 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

another thread where the men of ilx get their peckers out

― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Friday, September 21, 2012 3:31 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no one told me

lag∞n, Friday, 21 September 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

super jackoff sesh

buzza, Friday, 21 September 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

Rourke at his best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLAbh_LceNw

canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Friday, 21 September 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

Bob Seger + Mickey Rourke = :D

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 September 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

didn't really dig either. to die for less boring, but the highs aren't as high

da croupier, Friday, 21 September 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

both are kind of goofy time capsules of what passed for highbrow titillation at that moment

da croupier, Friday, 21 September 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

i forget, has the world been blessed with an erotic lawrence kasdan thriller since body heat

da croupier, Friday, 21 September 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 September 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

bet i would have liked to die for if i saw it as a teen when it came out instead of just a year or two ago

da croupier, Friday, 21 September 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

maybe his upcoming Robotech movie will count

cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Friday, 21 September 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

"ohhhh Minmay"

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 September 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

both are kind of goofy time capsules of what passed for highbrow titillation at that moment

― da croupier, Friday, September 21, 2012 12:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

highbrow?

Hungry4Ass, Friday, 21 September 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

haha ok arthouse, upscale, middlebrow oscarbrow whateverbrow re to die for and bodyheat you can handle

da croupier, Friday, 21 September 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

to answer title question: stale

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 September 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

The big problem with To Die For, imo, was that Kidman was not dialed in to the the right tone for her character and Van Sant let her run with an interpretation that was far too cartoony and bubble-headed to mesh with the rest of the characters

otm -- this kind of thing isn't Van Sant's strength either.

As for BH it woulda worked had Rourke played the Kathleen Turner part.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 September 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

i can't believe this anti-kidman-in-to die for crazy talk

horseshoe, Friday, 21 September 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

(i am afraid to rewatch it now for fear it's true)

horseshoe, Friday, 21 September 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

sorry, she's funnier in the Kubrick pot scene than in the whole of that.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 September 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno man if you think she's supposed to be funny i think yr missing the point

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 21 September 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

in TDF? that'd be hard, you get battered over the head with it every 2 minutes most of the way.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 September 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

*gets pecker out*

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 21 September 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

plz, not so early on a Friday...

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 September 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx9CjT8DS9A

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 21 September 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 27 September 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 28 September 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

eight years pass...

can't believe I missed this thread. I saw a double feature of BLOOD SIMPLE / BODY HEAT last year and BODY HEAT fucking slayed (as did BLOOD SIMPLE)

found this thread searching "double feature" tho. what do ILX's film heads think of this possible watch tonight: BEING THERE / BLUE COLLAR

k3vin k., Thursday, 26 November 2020 00:45 (five years ago)

My thematic double feature with To Die For (1995) would be Serial Mom (1994). Again, Kidman v. Turner. Again, post-Lynchian depravity under the suburban facade. But highlighting the camp.

Advanced Doomscroller (Sanpaku), Thursday, 26 November 2020 04:39 (five years ago)

Blood Simple/Body Heat is a great pairing, I agree. I could go for both right now.

Pre-Isis (FlappyPants), Thursday, 26 November 2020 06:16 (five years ago)

nine months pass...

Just watched Body Heat for the first (and likely last) time. It starts off strong, but narrows into a miserably limited noir-by-numbers schtick as it goes on.

Honestly I wish I had left it where I stopped last night (right after Hurt and Turner git it on for the first time), because that first act is really solid and writes checks that the rest of the film cannot cash (so to speak).

tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 06:44 (four years ago)

Also (to work a theme of this thread) – while the sex scenes are remarkably bold, Hurt and Turner don’t actually have much chemistry. Sweaty or not, they’re a couple of cold fish!

tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 06:56 (four years ago)

I watched for the first time since the early '90s. I found it rather stiff in its OMG SYMBOLISM DON'T YOU SEE approach. Florida's not THAT hot, and A/C was widely available in the early '80s.

Hurt is fine as usual. Maybe knowing the Kathleen Turner persona affects my watching her in embryonic form, but I couldn't watch her as femme fatale without waiting for her to put air quotes around her dialogue.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:09 (four years ago)

Hurt's gift is to play without condescension dumb slightly cute dudes.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:10 (four years ago)

The sleazy-saxophone score (by John Barry) gently nudges the movie toward Naked Gun territory... I feel like if Kasdan had turned few knobs just a few degrees higher (e.g., added a voiceover by Hurt's character), the movie could have been an enjoyably overboiled parody, instead of a tepid pastiche.

tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 14:49 (four years ago)


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