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What did you do today that gave you jouissance? Julia Kristeva to thread...

Mary (Mary), Friday, 20 September 2002 03:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I went into the store in the skyway and gave them $1.34 and they gave me the cranberry kind

Josh (Josh), Friday, 20 September 2002 06:22 (twenty-three years ago)

ate dozens of cough drops...

you do know that 'jouissance' means two different case sensitive things right ?

mike (ro)bott, Friday, 20 September 2002 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)

i ate bangers n' mash while listening to m. mayer's immer mix, read some father brown

bob zemko (bob), Friday, 20 September 2002 16:45 (twenty-three years ago)

It means something else in capitals, Mike? => it means something else if you say it while standing, as established on another great thread.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 20 September 2002 17:46 (twenty-three years ago)

evidently in legal french it can mean "use" or "usage".

and as i recall barthes uses it more often than kristeva, or else she borrowed it from him. they both mean it in the sense of a text being bent or broken in a direction opposite of it's "original intent" or something like that.

if i knew more idiomatic french this might actually be funny.

mike (ro)bott, Friday, 20 September 2002 19:05 (twenty-three years ago)

You can give yourself jouissance? Why has no one ever told me this?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 20 September 2002 21:10 (twenty-three years ago)

tracer did they not have health classes when you were small?

Josh (Josh), Friday, 20 September 2002 23:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Quick web search definition:

"JOUISSANCE: The usual English translation, "enjoyment," does not carry the sexually orgasmic connotation that the French does in addition to the idea of taking pleasure in something. In Lacanian circles, jouissance is distinguished from pleasure ( plaisir) in that the latter indicates simply the search for psychic
balance ( homeostasis) through the release of tension, whereas the former is supposed to be a perpetual state in violation of the pleasure principle. There is thus an implicit analogy drawn between demand and desire. See transgression. Julia Kristeva (see Kristevan) offers a slight development and a bit of wordplay:
she uses plaisir for sexual pleasure and jouissance (or j'ouïs sens, "I heard meaning") as total joy due to the presence of meaning."

Mary (Mary), Friday, 20 September 2002 23:40 (twenty-three years ago)


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