libertarians vs republicans

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let's say you have to be stuck in a room w/ one for a week

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republican 19
libertarian 14


iatee, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

a room, or a seastead? i'd choose libertarian for seastead for the endless comedy of failures that would provide.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

andrew mellon vs william lloyd garrison

goole, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

i kinda secretly believe that stuck in a room w/ any republican for a week i can get them to disavow the republican party. that most of their political beliefs are rooted in ignorance + poor critical thinking skills. i think that libertarians are more fully attached to an ideology that is honestly kinda impervious to rational discourse.

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

anonymous vs james o'keefe

goole, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

What flavor of Republican? New Englander? Texan? Northern Californian?

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

republicans much less likely to be idiots about the civil war, so them.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

flavors don't exist anymore

iatee, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

republicans much less likely to be idiots about the civil war, so them.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:54 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just as likely to be idiots about the period afterwards tho

goole, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

flavors still exist but aren't represented in public/media consciousness - they mostly matter in local elections + local politics

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

can I pick the Republican and the Libertarian?

set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

prince rand paul vs president scott brown

goole, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

Most irl republicans aren't as vocal and obnoxious as the libertarians I've met.

controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

watching j-horror with johnny ramone for a week wouldn't be too bad.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

autism vs psychosis

goole, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

That's assuming you can pick which one! College libertarians are the most disgusting savages. xp

controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

tbf a lot of that is because of the "college" part

set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

Likewise, loudly watching college football or hockey playoffs with a republican is just fine, just as long as that republican doesn't root for fuckin' Ohio State, cuz then we'd have a problem.

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

my roommate is a libertarian so i've basically already made this choice. he's not annoying about it though, we just don't talk about politics

ciderpress, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

libertarians are a type of republican

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

like srsly they are part of the republican coalition

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

this is well known and easily verifiable

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

you know who's a libertarian, is Christina Hendricks

set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

definitely think flavors exist and that would definitely affect my preference

like i would much rather be trapped in a room for a week with Brink Lindsey than someone who gets 100% of their lolnews from FOX

it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

might as well go religious right v republicans

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

this is well known and easily verifiable

how does one go about verifying that kind of categorical assertion?

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

I will vote in this poll only when I am allowed to pick all the remaining traits of this mythical person. Perhaps a catatonic libertarian would have social charms not common to the breed.

Aimless, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

otoh i'd pick a Huntsman daughter a paranoid Pault**d

it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

over a

it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

other fanous libertarians include:

Jessica Biehl
Brittany Murphy (RIP)
Blake Lively
Maggie Q
Heather Locklear
Donna Summer
Amanda Peet
Marsha Warfield
Selena Gomez

set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

the 'all libertarians are closet GOP operatives' meme is an extremely stupid one

http://wac.0873.edgecastcdn.net/800873/blog/wp-content/uploads/201209_blog_kirby272.jpg

― a shark with a rippling six pack (Phil D.), Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

goole, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

how does one go about verifying that kind of categorical assertion?

― Mordy, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 2:03 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well since were talking abt politics we could just go ahead and see how they vote

http://wac.0873.edgecastcdn.net/800873/blog/wp-content/uploads/201209_blog_kirby272.jpg

― a shark with a rippling six pack (Phil D.), Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha xp

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

so that proves what? that during presidential elections libertarians have tended (tho not unanimously) to vote for the republican candidate?

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

routinely getting 60-70% of any self-described demographic is about as close a lock in a coalition as you can get

goole, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

until (long-time republican funder) ross perot showed up

goole, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

More libertarians smoke weed but Republicans who smoke weed tend to smoke better weed.

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

ill leave to mordy the heavy lifting of untangling votes republican from republican

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

Donna Summer
Amanda Peet
Marsha Warfield

could totally chill with these women

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

it's reductive. jewish voters, or black voters, predominately vote (in even higher than 70%) for democratic candidates, but they aren't just democrats under a secret new name. self-identified environmentalists might end up predominately voting for democratic candidates in presidential elections, but might vehemently argue that they aren't democrats.

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

sure but theyd be wrong

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

is "smoke weed" code for "fiscal policy" or code for "smoke weed"?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

i mean, i'm not making perfect links to libertarians, and i'm open to an argument that they're moreso republicans than other ideological, interest, or demographic groups are the party that they predominately vote for. but that graph does not make that case.

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

i mean its kinda like saying im not a regular at this bar i just come here all the time

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

"More libertarians smoke weed but Republicans who smoke weed tend to smoke better weed."

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3i6Ev275ou4/TwDPaRc7KtI/AAAAAAAAENI/k5G03BbqGWM/s1600/wfb.jpg

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

well, no it's not. being a regular at a bar is synonymous w/ coming to it often. voting for a party is not synonymous w/ being a member of that party.

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

And truth be told, my dad is somewhere in that cloud nebula mix of asshole exburbanite libertarian/republican

And he roots for Michigan State, but we don't talk during that game.

(On a related note, said dad has major problems tipping appropriately, which has resulted in no few public arguments with multiple family members over the paltry amounts)

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

for instance, how about all the hard left voters who reconcile themselves to voting for the democrat every four years bc of 'lesser than two evils' argument but spend the next four years protesting that candidate? arguably this is the most common archetype to ILX and yet you'd claim that all those voters are actually democrats in denial?

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

I'm kind of making a NorCal joke there and yes by smoke weed, I mean ingest the psychotropic substances in cannabis

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

no – just ILXers

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

sure libertarianism is distinct from whatever melange of stuff plain 'ol conservatism is

but actually-existing libertarianism is a social and political phenomenon of the right, they know it, everybody knows it.

goole, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

It was really fascist, I think?

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, found it: things you're secretly kinda fascisty about

we should do one for republican

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

i wonder who the most right-wing ilxor is and sometimes i wonder if it's me

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I think it was Roger Adultery who was that type, tho there always seems to one or two in the past who float around for a few months before getting banned or floating away

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

well you went ham on Jonah boy a couple years ago

xpost

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

let's be honest - it's not super hard to be the most right-wing ilxor (i mean that participates on politics threads i'm sure we have some random ILMers who believe all kinds of shit) - we did one of those political graph threads a bit ago and posters only fell on 1/4th of the graph space.

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

roger a. had some serious probing questions about the hypocrisy of the media covering black-on-white crime iirc and made some very pointed statements.

omar little, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

Does Dandy Don Weiner still post? He struck me as at least run of the mill GOP if not a bit more right wing than that.

a shark with a rippling six pack (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

every so often i think about making a republican sockpuppet (i guess my admitting it here is also a concession that i'll never really do it) and writing really sincere, complicated posts defending popular right wing talking points

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

some ppl have theorized that this has already happened etc

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

left-orthodox team players are about as close to republicanism as ilx gets imo, at least in spirit.

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

what is a 'left-orthodox team player'?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

what is a 'left-orthodox team player'?
--(The Other) J.D. (J.D.)

Sandy Koufax

a shark with a rippling six pack (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

big lol

balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

out of the park

goole, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

boom

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

OMG a basebsall joke I actually get!!!!!

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

every so often i think about making a republican sockpuppet (i guess my admitting it here is also a concession that i'll never really do it) and writing really sincere, complicated posts defending popular right wing talking points

― Mordy, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 5:06 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

some ppl have theorized that this has already happened etc

― Mordy, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 5:07 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was gonna say! ;)

la goonies (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 12 October 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

i'd like libertarians more if they were fictional -- like, if murray rothbard were a character in a novel, he'd totally be the most bizarre and fascinating character.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 12 October 2012 00:10 (thirteen years ago)

I've met a handful of both and I have to say I get on a lot better with Libertarians, despite it arguably being a stupider political philosophy. Most of the former I've met tend to be younger fun-loving people whose main attraction to the ideology seems to be wanting the Govt to stop interfering with their shit. Most of the latter tend to be older, angrier and axe-grindier.

nb I'm not American, nor have I ever lived there.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 12 October 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

I've met a handful of both and I have to say I get on a lot better with Libertarians, despite it arguably being a stupider political philosophy. Most of the former I've met tend to be younger fun-loving people whose main attraction to the ideology seems to be wanting the Govt to stop interfering with their shit. Most of the latter tend to be older, angrier and axe-grindier.

^^^^ i am American, and this is my own experience.

major exception being libertarians who are really into Ayn Rand, who i lump into the same boat as Scientologists.

spicy bacon, bitch! (Eisbaer), Sunday, 14 October 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

we've got beautiful mountains and rivers, chap

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 October 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

most republicans i meet are not nearly as obnoxiously "opinions 4 u" as libertarians (nor as much as most dems tbh but then again i live in l.a., repubs keep their head low for the most part.)

omar little, Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

let us all enjoy some freesponsibility... in space!

libertarian space colony's president is apparently Dave Chappelle in a mustache

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:02 (twelve years ago)

overview here

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:05 (twelve years ago)

wtf Lo-Pan from Big Trouble in Little China shows up 20 mins in

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:17 (twelve years ago)

showing up 20 mins in is p much james hong's whole career

a permanent mental health break (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:20 (twelve years ago)

also butler in chinatown, "i just do eyes!" in blade runner, dramatically revealed cybersurgeon in tank girl, maitre d when jerry/george/elaine go to the chinese restaurant, etc

a permanent mental health break (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:23 (twelve years ago)

they should remake the good earth with james hong as everyone

a permanent mental health break (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:23 (twelve years ago)

lol

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:24 (twelve years ago)

James Hong is at the Wizard World comiccon going on about a half-mile from me right now. I want to go for the sole reason of getting a photo with him.

The New Jack Mormons! (kingfish), Saturday, 16 February 2013 01:01 (twelve years ago)

choosing b/w these two is the politics equivalent of choosing b/w drowning in a tubful of diarrhea vs. drowning in a tubful of vomit amirite?!?

i have a history of enabling your mother. (Eisbaer), Saturday, 16 February 2013 04:40 (twelve years ago)

waving hello

dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 05:32 (twelve years ago)

four years pass...

This is a great read: https://www.texasobserver.org/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-freest-little-city-in-texas/amp/

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:20 (eight years ago)

schaudenfreude

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:22 (eight years ago)

If Von Ormy is a libertarian experiment with democracy, it’s one that hasn’t turned out as expected.

I would say it turned out exactly as one would expect

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:23 (eight years ago)

I love the repetition of this phrase in the article:
“We were blessed with this unique opportunity to experiment with democracy”

mh, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:35 (eight years ago)

Sounds great on paper, but it just doesn't work in reality.

how's life, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:42 (eight years ago)

this is a good thread/era of ilx politics threads imo

flopson, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 21:29 (eight years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2017/08/date-nate-wont

You have to visit the site in the post. You HAVE to.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 25 August 2017 13:18 (eight years ago)

Looks like he took down the original site and put up something to try to capitalize on the new traffic he was getting.

o. nate, Saturday, 26 August 2017 01:13 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

I feel like these libertarian guys are somewhat quieter than they were. Rebranding as 'classical liberals', or sucked up by the alt-right and jumped on the conservative identity politics train where all the action is?

anvil, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 00:38 (six years ago)

reason magazine still exists

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 00:40 (six years ago)

I saw the thread title and hoped it was proposing a caged death match.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:51 (six years ago)

caged death matches are a very libertarian type of entertainment

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:53 (six years ago)

All the Ron Paul libertarians are Republicans again

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 02:17 (six years ago)

yeah that sounds right. trump kind of gave em enough to jump on--gestures toward "isolationism," the "deconstruction of the administrative state" via vast incompetence, etc

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 02:28 (six years ago)

Changing my vote

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 06:34 (six years ago)


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