when you apprehend a cultural object (music, film, visual art etc) do you sometimes willfully diverge from it's intended meaning to "enhance it" or correct it in some way for your pleasure or interest, like patch up a plot hole so you didn't waste your time , make up lyrics/feelings from a song in a language you don,t speak or change the context of a story to plant it into another genre , etc?
― Sébastien, Monday, 8 October 2012 08:50 (twelve years ago) link
It depends what you mean by "apprehend."
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 8 October 2012 09:22 (twelve years ago) link
I live in Portland. In Portland we apprehend cultural objects any way we like.
― Aimless, Monday, 8 October 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
read that in Steve Albini's voice for a sec
― vegetarian beef (Noodle Vague), Monday, 8 October 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
i do this with video games but not much with other media
― / me, / me. /. /. (goole), Monday, 8 October 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
apprehend? you mean appropriate?
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 8 October 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
I can do this through omission. It's easy to ignore dodgy lyrics or a dumb movie scene.
Adding new pretend content seems like a harder trick. How do you sustain the pretense?
― jim, Monday, 8 October 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
apprehend - from scholastic philosophy (via Joyce?) - to encounter a cultural object through one or more of the senses. cos you don't normally look at a sound or listen to a painting for example.
― vegetarian beef (Noodle Vague), Monday, 8 October 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
Sounds to me a bit like synaesthesia. I think I know what he's getting at but I'd have to work hard to think of any actual examples.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 8 October 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
no i mean "apprehend" is used as a catch-all for any of the normal sensory modes of encountering something
― vegetarian beef (Noodle Vague), Monday, 8 October 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
you shouldn't have fucked up that rothko seb
― skrill xx (cozen), Monday, 8 October 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
i snuck in blue cheese slices to an in-n-out and it was delicious
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 8 October 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
"to encounter a cultural object through one or more of the senses"
yes , i never thought the choice of that word would be a hurdle : cultural objects are various and there are a variety of ways to ... shit i painted myself in that corner again. also i am drunk. joeks. but yea, different ways to experience and integrate them "live".
― Sébastien, Friday, 7 October 2016 02:15 (eight years ago) link
I knew what you meant. I do this all the time. Mostly via the fast forward and mute buttons. I suppose in the past I would have just picked up the needle.
― Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Friday, 7 October 2016 02:18 (eight years ago) link
i used to pretend totoro was about assassins
― florence foster wallace (difficult listening hour), Friday, 7 October 2016 02:31 (eight years ago) link
tomboto: i use that too but moreso when i was a teen watching a few movies at the same time with satellite dish tech, estimating the narrative loss i could afford made by the dish physically moving slowly between em . that was then , and also you made me think of an idea i had a while ago: someone should make a repository of those shitty CAM pirated movies: often the sound is shit and it makes the dialog much better. works especially well with horror movies.
― Sébastien, Friday, 7 October 2016 02:39 (eight years ago) link
its not exactly the same idea i had when i made this thread but it's related: i had to fill the blanks when inevitably they had to be filled
― Sébastien, Friday, 7 October 2016 02:47 (eight years ago) link
i'm not a betting man, i'm a winning man as i would say
― Sébastien, Friday, 7 October 2016 02:48 (eight years ago) link
opium? i want to be post critical
― Sébastien, Friday, 7 October 2016 03:17 (eight years ago) link