FRANKENSTORM 2012

http://news.yahoo.com/noaa-east-beware-coming-frankenstorm-171317994.html

WASHINGTON (AP) — An unusual nasty mix of a hurricane and a winter storm that forecasters are now calling "Frankenstorm" is likely to blast most of the East Coast next week, focusing the worst of its weather mayhem around New York City and New Jersey.

Government forecasters on Thursday upped the odds of a major weather mess, now saying there's a 90 percent chance that the East will get steady gale-force winds, heavy rain, flooding and maybe snow starting Sunday and stretching past Halloween on Wednesday.

Meteorologists say it is likely to cause $1 billion in damage.

May or may not be as bad as predicted, but I wanted to start a thread titled "FRANKENSTORM 2012".

Weather Channel yawns skeptically

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/New+York+NY+10013:4:US

The job repercussions for a forecaster who warns of a possible weather catastrophe that turns out to be nbd are miniscule compared to one who predicts bland weather and it turns out an epic catastrophe.

yes, but we consumers should proceed with jaundice.

Nothing to worry about, imo, unless they actually mean Frankenstorm's monster.

Weather Channel people fairly confident this thing will match the hype.

Much prefer anticipating this to another week discussing elections!

meh, in Florida

if only it happened on Election Day, THAT would be fun

i honestly thought this thread was going to be about some scandal involving Al Franken. especially because the most recent post was by Morbius.

plz he's too boring

that's why i was confused enough to eagerly click on the thread!

would definitely vote for "-storm" being the new "-gate"

i would rather an incoming storm be over-hyped than under-reported to be honest

otm

The job repercussions for a forecaster who warns of a possible weather catastrophe that turns out to be nbd are miniscule compared to one who predicts bland weather and it turns out an epic catastrophe.

are on-air meteorologists held accountable like that? i don't even know. but for public safety officials, yes, this is very true. one such official in RI was fired for lack of preparation for a snowstorm a few years ago -- the storm resulted in schoolbuses full of kids stranded in city traffic for 10 hours and general chaos.

reminds me of the time our high-school hosted a stage hypnotist. who took one girl from the audience and gave her the suggestion that there was a huge snowstorm coming, and that she had to instruct the audience what to do. she became visibly upset and started telling everyone to go to the store and stock up on bread and milk and go home. everyone was laughing hysterically at her and she became frantic, convinced of the terrifying reality of the snowstorm. even when the hypnotist brought her out of it she was still upset. fucked up.

stocking up on bread and milk is a crucial element of storm preparedness in rhode island, fwiw. i expect the most of the stores in the area to be sold out of whole milk by sunday.

RIP Lactose Intolerant People

the bread and milk panic is everywhere now, even in jaded Brooklyn.

If the subway goes out for 4 days again, iatee and I can revive our klassik feud over whether such service outage is acceptable.

is bread and milk a thing people do everywhere, because i always thought it to be a regional thing here

well in brooklyn its artisanal milk

Fuck this milk shit. Stock up on Hendrick's.

also I was not happy about the subway service being down last time, I was happy about the roads not getting plowed, cars stuck in the middle of the road. it was a winter wonderland.

scheduled to fly to Chicago from Baltimore early Sunday afternoon and supposed to fly back Tuesday night. dreading the potential clusterfuck this could lead to.

xp do these ppl have their own hens? cause if they have eggs they could make french toast. it is also nice to have syrup and nutmeg imo. the nice thing about hens is that if thepower goes out for a week, you can just keep getting fresh eggs. i guess it would then help to have a milking cow, too.

<i>is bread and milk a thing people do everywhere, because i always thought it to be a regional thing here</i>

In the DC area, the mantra is "BREAD MILK AND TOILET PAPER! BREAD MILK AND TOILET PAPER!!!"

Good news: I start a job on Monday.
Bad news: Said job requires me to drive up to Baltimore.

Groceries being delivered, new gentleman caller coming to watch soccer on the internet, laptop allows working from home...I hope it's a delightfully crippling blizzard.

I will make sure to get in plenty of wine, Alfred, don't you worry. (Not fond of Hendrick's.)

can't drink a damn thing, hope it's bone dry

Okay blizzard only north of the park, bone-dry south of.

I've got 3 bottles of wine and a vat of chile, but I need to spend the weekend Halloween-costume shopping.

Went to the hardware store and grocery because we needed some non-storm related stuff and knew it would only get crazier there as Sunday approaches; battery and water aisles decimated.

D.C., famous for hardy storm-weathering!

VP are you going to jump in the vat of chile?

I mean batteries I get, OK you need to power your flashlight but I don't understand the water thing? I've lived here through a ton of power outages (last one was 6 days) but there's never been a boil water order or anything like that. I mean clearly stocking up on booze is more important than stocking up on bottled water; booze does not come out of the faucet duh.

Water can get super bad. Also, people who have wells may not have access to water at all if the power goes out.

Currently planning to fly into Newark on Thu Nov 1st for NY vacation.

I will bring xtra books.

good luck east coast. <3

I can assure you that very few, if any, residents of our nation's capital are on well water. I'm not sure how city water gets super bad?

I mean I am no sanitation expert, just sayin' that I have yet to hear this happen except for the lollead problems of the 1990s.

If sewer water mixes with primary water (which almost always happens in flooding situations), you don't want to be drinking what comes from your tap (and you don't want to go outside and walk around in it, either).

Oh,that's right. you're talking about cityfolk. I don't know think you guys are going to have any problems with that. I'm probably screwed. My power's stayed on for the last few hurricanes, the derecho, and all of snowmageddon. My number's up.

somehow i totally forgot about weather and only learned about this a couple hours ago.

ARE WE GOING TO DIE, Y/N?!

must admit, totally selfishly, that i'm a little pissed because a project that i've been leading for the past 6 months is set to launch on MONDAY - looks like that might be delayed now. :(

Ohhhh OK I had not thought about flooding; I was thinging "so the power goes out, nbd for h20 tx amirite I mean they must have generators and stuff."

HL having the power out in ~60 degree weather is not so miserable, but when it was out for 6 days with temps upwards of 100, SUCKTASTIC

^^^an xpost, obv

ZS, we live about 5 miles away from the data center where the spouse works; his boss thinks this is to far and wants him to shack up at the NoMa Hilton more or less next door in case shit goes down Sunday night!

TOO not to blah blah blah

whoa! i didn't realize there was a data center there (i live a few blocks away from that NoMa Hilton)

Well it'll be gone in another year or so, moving that shit to Jersey yo

Also pls come do a storm party in the hilton hotel room (hell yeah I'm going, too! Bring on the room service on the company dime!)

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/krtgfxlive042103.jpg

FRANKENSTORM 2012

crazy how many people died from falling trees

and carbon monoxide from generators

reading that made me wonder how many people in florida did not die from hurricanes because we can't build basements

I cant belive how many of these deaths were due to "trying to save my shit form the storm"

i can! it's hard to believe things are as bad as they are when you're in it. You just do what makes sense, which is saving your shit.

Ann Bush
Unknown
Honesdale, PA
Became distraught after a tree fell on her home and committed suicide.

yeah, from the accounts of survivors things went from stormy to life-threatening in a matter of minutes. I mean if my house started filling with water I'd be tempted to run downstairs and grab my guitar or some master tapes. ppl think this'll only take 30 seconds, then the lights go out and the water rushes in and the floating furniture becomes an obstacle course and panic sets in and it's game over.

Geez forks your situ sounds intense and my heart goes out to you. I hope you and everyone in yr neighbourhood can find some semblance of normality soon. x

forks can we mail you some hot soup?

man, just for kicks, i just got some sort of food poisoning/gastritis thing that's been keeping me up in agony for the past few days.
i think it might be sandy related insofar as i'm eating local food?

water?

maybe? dunno.

do you have the means to boil water right now? i would do that

yeah, everything is tea now.

basically i'm eating broth and tea for the next two days, hoping to heal. supposed to fly home on tuesday. seeing the cost to cancel tickets.

I watched some videos on YouTube last night of various flooded parts of Jersey City. Eeeeeeek.

forks I would totally offer for you to come to Forest Hills for a home-cooked meal, but that's probably a long way to travel for a meal.

thanks, you're right!

http://o.onionstatic.com/images/18/18792/original/630.jpg?0400

p sure I've seen Friendless Nag at a PETA table

get well forks

back those master tapes and guitars up to the cloud man

The brainiacs of New Jersey Transit:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/18/us-storm-sandy-newjersey-railway-idUSBRE8AG0K220121118

Still no wtc path.
33 st stops at ten pm.
I have no other way into the city and have been blowing off shows.

I saw that--just went to look for my Thanksgiving plans which involve going to NJ and that's going to be a problem....

there are busses from penn station. they're miserable.

The Bergen Cty line is luckily running, the only problem is the PATH stops at 10pm so I have to be back in Hoboken by like 9.30?

I guess I'll be taking the NJT bus to Yo La Tengo Hanukkah?

I still can't decide whether to take the bus or the train next weekend.

not sure if anyone linked this here

http://vimeo.com/53653749

very high-quality footage of the transformer explosion toward the end, shot from Williamsburg

Village Voice cover story says "Sandy is New York's Katrina." *this* close to posting it to the rolling is this racist thread.

even worse, the title is taken from a quote from someone in really dire circumstances in the red hook projects, where it's an understandable sentiment, and the "our" in "our katrina" is meant to be that neighborhood, those buildings, those people. but then that idea is unilaterally applied across a whole city most of which didn't undergo anything like katrina.

there's a chris rock routine in this.

Wow that explosion footage is amazing.

s.clover, i get where you're coming from, but those people and the ones in the Coney projects are surely part of "our" city, yeah?

(and i gen hate the post-journalism VV)

morbs, yeah on some level there's some trickiness w/r/t the quote and how it's used. but there's no getting around the problem with the headline itself, which just smacked me in the face when i saw it in a newsstand. the article itself, after a rocky start, is actually fairly interesting. i wouldn't be shocked if the editors didn't try to sensationalize an initially much more level-headed piece of journalism.

didnt springsteen make a sandy song

New York hard rock band Kiss released a single titled "Shandi", from their 1980 album Unmasked, with the song title being inspired by Springsteen's Sandy according to Paul Stanley, the only member of Kiss to work on the recording of the song in the studio, although all four members of the group appeared in the song's promotional video clip."

s.clover, not sure if u wanna hide yr eyes here

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, making a case for tens of billions of dollars in federal aid, declared on Monday that Hurricane Sandy had been “more impactful” than Hurricane Katrina, the deadly storm that struck the Gulf Coast in 2005.

Hurricane Sandy, which arrived in New Jersey and New York on Oct. 29, “affected many, many more people and places than Katrina,” Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, told reporters at a news briefing. He said the comparison between the two hurricanes “puts this entire conversation, I believe, in focus.”

...Mr. Cuomo acknowledged that more people had been killed by Hurricane Katrina, but said that Hurricane Sandy had had a greater economic impact because of the dense population in the New York City area. He said Hurricane Sandy had destroyed or damaged more units of housing, affected more businesses and caused more customers to lose power.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/27/nyregion/governor-cuomo-says-hurricane-sandy-was-worse-than-katrina.html

yesterday it hit 60 and today it's gonna snow? fuck me

not the best pickup line i've ever heard

it is not snowing yet, kiu all winter, weatherman.

it's snowing here

"do me cause of global warming"

lol high of 66 on wednesday? jeez

out of curiosity: did anyone that worked with occupy sandy encounter the bi0-lit3 dudes? they had the campstoves that charged cell phones.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/04/nyregion/cuomo-seeking-home-buyouts-in-flood-zones.html

“Nobody wants to leave here,” she said. “Where would I go? To Astoria? To Brooklyn? No!”State Senator Joseph P. Addabbo Jr., a Democrat who represents Howard Beach, Broad Channel and the Rockaways, said that in his district of more than 300,000 people, perhaps three had asked him for information about selling their homes to the government. “These are residents that chose to live by the water,” he said. “They’re not going anywhere.”

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waterworld 2012

goddamn, this was just the worst.

remembering the shitty times with a michelob

lol, i forgot how bad this was! I hope COVID fades in my memory the same way. I'm hopeful.