The Choice of a New Denigration: the US Election Day 2012 Thread

Jill Stein wins, of course.

(Mods, rename as you see fit.)

or just spell it right

Sure, or that

It's a good portmanteau of a word, though.

We should change it to "Ned Raggett cleans up handily."

Is it fucking CRAZY that my polling site is a PUBLIC SCHOOL and it's handicap INACCESSIBLE?

Mine is too.

Seriously though, this whole process is at a point where I have no idea how to feel about anything.

At least y'all get to vote this year.

Security guard at my job predicts pandemonium and recounts and that "we won't know who won for three weeks"

http://www.nplusonemag.com/election-preview

I've been lurking on the election threads because ILX knows what's up and now that the day is here, just sayin' it's been a pleasure, gentlemen.

and good luck USA

As an avid reader of the previous threads, (tho not one for posting) I am disappointed that this one's title isn't
"THIS WILL SURPRISE MANY"

I do like that one.

I should have been... so many "should have beens"

I've been lurking on the election threads because ILX knows what's up and now that the day is here, just sayin' it's been a pleasure, gentlemen.

yea, it's extreeeemely hard to keep up but i have been steady lurking as well. thanks for the anxiety / entertainment

i've enjoyed reading ilx election threads too but i am also extremely eager for this election to be over

^
This

http://www.nplusonemag.com/election-preview

I’m trying to cultivate something I’ve started to think of as “post-democratic” subjectivity

man gtfo

hey man u go wherever *you* want

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Orders

http://www.nplusonemag.com/election-preview

ok i didn't know mark greif was so emo

The part where he talks about his dad seeing Biden's underwear is pretty funny.

love deleting Obama robocalls

Let's take up a collection for an Edible Arrangement bouquet for Morbs for tomorrow

Make sure to splurge for the edible bees.

do they do those with bourbon?

Okay, fifteen minutes to election day on the East Coast...

IT BEGINS

I've been lurking on the election threads because ILX knows what's up and now that the day is here, just sayin' it's been a pleasure, gentlemen.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23902350.jpg

have a good placebo.

how should one consider a dr who spends all his time studying only placebos

> snake oil

I'm confused about the ZERO discussion of the House/Senate outcomes -- same old shit expected, huh? Tell me how many seats, pronto.

does that '>' refer to placebos, or your running commentary on snake oil

No blood for snake oil!

test adventure, I assume.

>Snake oil
Oil snake

either 52 or 53 and a handful of pickups in the house. not very many. nothing changes.

Would love to occupy the house with a game of 52 pick-up.

FB post from an indie-media guy:

Wow. Just voted in Hoboken and it was an astounding exercise in geriatric-led chaos. Nobody had any idea which line to stand in, there was no direction or organization whatsoever. After a 45 minute line, they couldn't find me in the voter rolls, so they gave me a provisional paper ballot. I panhandled for a pen to fill it out, then had to almost cause a scene in order to find somebody to submit my ballot to. And this is what it's like in the heart of Obama country. It's gonna be a long night.

http://www.ep.tc/problems/53/

http://www.ep.tc/good-government/06.jpg

Damn @ Morbs' last post

Fun fun fun

I have a question as an outsider - bearing in mind obviously 95% of everything I've heard has been about the presidential election, but it seems like most of the rest of what I've heard has been for the Senate, which looks like it will stay Democrat.

In particular it seems like the majority of the "Republican candidate says something phenomenally ugly, Dem candidate starts to gain ground" has been for the Senate - is there something about the Senate races in general, or is it just that it's more in play so the races are more vicious?

not sure if anyone linked this Liptak NY Times piece about the boom in presidential "spectator states" ... up to 40+ now. In '76 most of the huge states were in the swing column (true, it was one of the closest elections of the century).

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/sunday-review/the-vanishing-electoral-battleground.html

Voted, for the first time, before sunrise.

(Most days, I prefer the sequel.)

andrew senate races are local enough that some crazy not-so-vetted mofos can end up w/ the nomination but national enough that they make the news. when stuff like this happens in a house race it has to be proportionally more interesting to reach the national news.

The future looms:

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/biden-dont-think-this-is-last-time-ill

Any prediction?

"Oh, I'm feeling pretty good."

Is this the last time you will vote for yourself?

"No, I don't think so," he said with a grin.

http://media.nj.com/entertainment_impact/photo/11698273-large.jpg

thanks a lot superobama

good luck superusa

supermorbs is gonna be superpissed

http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/09/campaign-sources-the-romney-campaign-was-a-consultant-con-job/

superfucking get a superlife

lolling so hard @ this comment on Rev's redstate link

Yet more evidence that we have been living in fantasyland for too long now. I don't want to hear that this is all Romney's fault, or all the campaign's fault. The simple fact is that in the run-up to this election, we were fed a steady diet of lies, from all our "loyal" sources. We need to hold not only the Romney campaign accountable, but also the conservative press (specifically the Murdoch press - Fox was the worst of the bunch), and the establishment talking heads like Karl Rove and Peggy Noonan. We need to get clear about something: these people are selling us a product. They have been taking our money and telling us bedtime stories. We complain about the MSM, but can we honestly say that the conservative press has been more honest?

How do we expect to win elections if we can't even get straight facts about the electorate? But maybe it's our own fault. There was practically a revolt around here when Erik said he didn't think the polls were false. And yet he was right, and they were right. Have we become allergic to the truth?

i don't think i've ever seen a comment on a rightwing blog that is so clearheaded. sadly, it makes me think that it might have been written by a non-wingnut mole trying to introduce some sanity from within the cuckoo house

yeah that's pretty classic concern trolling

I've seen similar instances these past few days, though, and RS itself was always pretty skeptical of Romney; certainly Erickson wasn't flying his flag as much as the GOP's in general. So maybe a half chance at trolling.

pretty much what frum and scarborough were discussing yesterday, as mentioned on the other thread. "Republicans have been fleeced and exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex"

reminds me of romney to gingrich & sanatorum during the republican debates, saying he didn't expect among republicans to have to apologize for being a capitalist.

it'll pass.

very likely some grade A concern trolling. but hey if they want to circle the wagons and start firing inward, ok by me.

it's not entirely irrational for the conservative media to suggest that a race is closer than it is - if people think it's a lost cause then it becomes *really* a lost cause. (but it is worth highlighting that fox news operates off different incentives than the gop.) 'a lot of republican foot troops genuinely thought they were gonna win' is not necessarily a bad thing. but when the decision makers get their news from fox news, it can have actual consequences.

I think the real thing here -- and it's either been talked about more here or on the Corner thread or both -- is the realization in some that a huge swathe of people really DO believe in certain things that aren't conservative ideals. You get all sorts of causes advanced -- academia, liberal media etc. -- but it's the "My god, they really do stand by that, and they're ignoring us...holy crap!" that's been instructive.

http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/09/to-our-friends-at-the-national-review-ii/

During the Bush years, you went from being a conservative flagship to being a Republican one. There’s nothing wrong with that, it’s a free country (for at least another twenty-six months), but it might not hurt to be up-front with your readers, you know?

Redstate thinks Dems are gonna take back the House.

it's not entirely irrational for the conservative media to suggest that a race is closer than it is - if people think it's a lost cause then it becomes *really* a lost cause. (but it is worth highlighting that fox news operates off different incentives than the gop.) 'a lot of republican foot troops genuinely thought they were gonna win' is not necessarily a bad thing. but when the decision makers get their news from fox news, it can have actual consequences.

― iatee, Saturday, November 10, 2012 9:48 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, to your first point, there's plenty of data that show that a pretty strong predictor of who people will vote for is who they think will win - therefore even if their guy is behind it behooves fox news types to pretend like the race is still competitive or that their guy is even ahead to keep enthusiasm up.

is there any evidence that "internal polls" - on either side - are worth anything or provide anything that nate silver doesn't have access to? in the NBA for example, teams keep all kinds of statistics - numbers of deflections on defense, how players fare in very specific situations - that either don't exist in the public sphere or that 95% of fans and most writers don't have access to (or even know about). these can actually be useful. i'm kind of struggling to think of polling data these campaigns have that could even be any more useful than that which is publicly available

they can do messaging-type polls that are useful w/r/t how they run the campaign but there's no reason why they'd have any better info on the vs number than anyone looking at lots of public polls

The Redstate article to which rev linked has some psycho trolling in those comments: there's an argument about which IT guys are more loyal!

See I always though that the GOP shitshow + obviously repulsive Romney was a tactic from that side to make Dem voters complacent about THEIR candidate's victory. And that on election day people would say "Well, he's going to win against those loons, so I don't need to vote". Maybe the right wing media inadvertently made their base complacent, overconfidence leading to under performance.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2012/11/9/14/enhanced-buzz-wide-1035-1352488120-4.jpg

Proud to be a dissenting white dude.

Miss u, Oregon.

new hampshire u r ruining everything

is there a wite wimmen map

no but some other maps are here http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/what-the-2012-election-would-have-looked-like-with

inneresting that obama still wins but barely if the voting age is 24

http://i.imgur.com/o8BLd.png

i made this one its what the electoral map would look like if the states in the corners were blue and the rest were red

can you make a happy face?

states should strategically vote so that if people want the president to stay another term a happy face is revealed, otherwise a frowny face

most butthurt reaction to that buzzfeed thing here

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/333188/buzzfeeds-illiterate-insinuation-charles-c-w-cooke#

http://healthcrimeinthenews.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/newusmap2-1.jpg

http://healthcrimeinthenews.wordpress.com/2010/11/16/smiley-face-killers-is-the-theory-true/

haha charles cw cooke rapidly becoming one of my favorite nro writers, highly recommended gis

um...grover norquist just said...poopy-head.

“The president was elected on the basis that he was not Romney and that Romney was a poopy-head and you should vote against Romney,” Norquist said on CBS’s “This Morning.” “(Obama) won by two points, but he didn’t make the case for higher taxes and higher spending. He kind of sounded like the opposite.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83709.html#ixzz2C1DTuXgG

good grief

there's a quick clip at the link. his face is so serious as he says "poopy-head", i didn't think it was possible

"he didn’t make the case for higher taxes and higher spending. He kind of sounded like the opposite.”

stopped clock right twice a day

obama explicitly said that we need to raise taxes on the wealthy during the campaign and following it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SzimHhzl9w

the cuts part is bullshit but he def wants to raise taxes for wealthy

(i mean bullshit coming from obama - i don't think he has a mandate or anything to cut social spending.)

one final lol and then we should put this one to bed

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_southeast_valley/gilbert/gilbert-pd-man-run-over-by-wife-for-not-voting

that's horrifying

lol

i'd like to believe he was running around in that parking lot trying to scream how the electoral college works

I forgot to mention (because I rarely post) that I experienced what I feel safe in calling voter fraud this election, though not in the presidential race. A poll worker handed me a ballot that was already filled in with every CA ballot initiative. There was some wierd sleight-of-hand the guy was doing before he eventually gave me my ballot. It was very puzzling. Just more of an anecdote than anything.

how was it filled in?

On the ballot where you connect the sides of the arrow, all the arrows were hastily filled in.

Connected by a single line, but definitely would count as filled in.

leaving aside for a minute the fact that the poor guy is currently in CRITICAL CONDITION, that is one of the greatest things i have ever read xxxxp

i don't want to speculate about people's private life when they end up on the news, but i feel like that woman is crazeballs

Hahahaha goole

Police said there were no indications that Holly was impaired by alcohol or drugs during the incident.

Close enough to Scottsdale to be taken to their hospital, case closed.