https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj5_FhLaaQQ
i dont know why hes wearing that garbage bag
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 November 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago)
Because he's crazy.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 16 November 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago)
hold on let me watch the trailer again
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 November 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago)
in my experience the inhabitants of mental hospitals rarely resemble bradley cooper or jennifer lawrence.
― THAT IS ONE BIG PIZZA (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 16 November 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago)
saw the preview for this and couldn't believe it was david o. russell, it looks like some awful generic quirky romcom.
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 16 November 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago)
this looks touching, poignant and heartfelt and i await it eagerly
― Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 16 November 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago)
Better than The Fighter. Not better than Showgirls.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago)
Is it any good?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago)
n/a otm
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago)
It's cray-meh-tion.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago)
also no one ever cast robert deniro in anything ever again please
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago)
Sort of feels like if It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia started doing very special Friends episodes. People love yelling. Love is insanity. What did "My Cherie Amour" ever do to deserve this?
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago)
that sounds p good
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 November 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago)
This, I trust, is the length of your review.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago)
What review?
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago)
If I could do movie reviews by holding up color-coded cards, I would be so happy.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago)
If you could do movie reviews by just saying "hey guys i really like Showgirls" over and over you would be so happy.
― some dude, Friday, 16 November 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago)
If every movie was just Showgirls over and over, I would be so happy.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago)
I would also be wearing a trash bag.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago)
― THAT IS ONE BIG PIZZA (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago)
hold on let me watch that trailer again
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago)
I feel like I saw this trailer almost a year ago, did it get pushed back for Oscar season or something?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago)
Or did you see the trailer for Everybody's Fine?
― cruel silver of hope (Eazy), Friday, 16 November 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago)
i can barely even watch the charlie rose promo/interview abt this
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 17 November 2012 04:03 (twelve years ago)
has o russell become mormon or s.thing, hes despicable now
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 17 November 2012 04:17 (twelve years ago)
I really want to see this now! This trailer is so much better than the one they're showing on tv which makes it look like zzzzz every other romcom ever.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago)
― lag∞n, Friday, November 16, 2012 11:50 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark
hes cutting weight dude, didnt you ever watch Vision Quest
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago)
^^^
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago)
i mentioned it in the other thread but i believe mark wahlberg's ghost is haunting this movie, and it freaks my shit out. that hemingway rant is totally supposed to be a wahlberg 'poetry is amazing' moment. so i dont know if i can get past that
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago)
yeah the part was written for him and he truly fucked the world over by not playing it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago)
rip this movie
― goole, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago)
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lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago)
Mark Walhberg is fatter than Bradley Cooper.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago)
saw the preview for this and couldn't believe it was david o. russell, it looks like some awful generic quirky romcom. Fwiw, I've read more than one review of this movie that claims that it transcends its appearances.
― Jake Roo (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago)
that's what everyone said about the fighter. (which i haven't seen)
― goole, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago)
jennifer lawrence channelling her inner juliette lewis here
― cozen, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago)
The Fighter is a triumph of refusing to exceed expectations.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago)
LOL
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago)
the fighter is awesome, if this is like the fighter except a romcom instead of a triumphant sports journey itll be p awesome too IMHO
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago)
jus lil tweeky funny vers of the genre, its cool, he should do a family road trip one next
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago)
tho id be a lot more psyched if it had BAHSTIN ACCENTS
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago)
starring Mark Wahlberg as http://www.mbird.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/abigail_breslin_image_little_miss_sunshine__1_.jpg
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago)
Charlie Day as http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3099/5807360916_a2c9a5181c_o.gif
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago)
david o russell and charlie day def need to unite
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago)
i will rent this when it comes out. jennifer lawrence is hard to not love.
― akm, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago)
oh she could be a real pill for all we know
― THAT IS ONE BIG PIZZA (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago)
Also, not to drag Oscar talk in here, but J.Law is currently the front-runner for best actress.
― Jake Roo (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago)
I mean, he was kinda fey in Anna Karenina, but I think Jude Law still qualifies for best ACTOR.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago)
Srsly tho, that Lawrence (who's fine but hardly revelatory in SLP) is currently the presumptive winner is pretty telling of how anemic that category is this year.
― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago)
Or generally -- this has been an abysmal year.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago)
I guess what I did kind of like about it was that at times it gave you this very close kind of psychic distance with someone bipolar that felt like it got some things right based on people I know. And I liked the father's ocd/magical thinking. But there's something so gross about taking all that sickness and turning it into pandery hollywood QUIRK. I really feel fed up with all these by-the-numbers quirky oscar bait films. I felt like every trailer I saw was the same, and like these films have cannibalized arthouse film and replaced it with something really really empty, but maybe that's not true.
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago)
after watching this I really think there's some credence to the idea of DOR getting therapy. was The Fighter this bad or am I just remembering it more fondly than how it actually was?
― berner herzog (fadanuf4erybody), Sunday, 13 January 2013 07:39 (twelve years ago)
jennifer lawrence is so gorgeous
― Mordy, Sunday, 20 January 2013 14:36 (twelve years ago)
amazingly bad movie. total male wish-fulfillment. i have no idea why people were all supposed to like the main character enough to band together and try to "fix" him in some huge group effort.
so basically about women finding purpose by helping men, and men improving themselves by enjoying football.
and something about black people teaching white people how to dance, briefly.
― s.clover, Monday, 28 January 2013 05:01 (twelve years ago)
amazingly bad movie. total male wish-fulfillment.
Not really. I wished it would end in five minutes -- it didn't
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 January 2013 11:57 (twelve years ago)
a+
― s.clover, Monday, 28 January 2013 14:14 (twelve years ago)
Haven't seen this yet, but I'm disturbed by the lack of discussion surrounding David O. Russell's long in development but ultimately abandoned movie called "Nailed," which was to star Jessica Biel as a woman who gets shot in the head with a nail gun. The nail gets stuck there and she goes to Washington to lobby for ... something. Kristin Gore wrote it, so surely it is steeped in The Truth.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 January 2013 15:00 (twelve years ago)
are you kidding? it sounds like you're kidding
― goole, Monday, 28 January 2013 16:04 (twelve years ago)
jesus you're not kidding
― goole, Monday, 28 January 2013 17:00 (twelve years ago)
I would never kid about something that batshit.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 January 2013 17:02 (twelve years ago)
http://collider.com/nailed-douglas-wick-lucy-fisher-david-o-russell/190561/
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 January 2013 17:05 (twelve years ago)
yeah i saw that. nutso! sounds pretty garbagey fwiw
― goole, Monday, 28 January 2013 17:26 (twelve years ago)
The political comedy satire was filmed in 2008 with Jessica Biel, Jake Gyllenhaal, Catherine Keener, and Tracy Morgan and centered on three people with serious health issues that stormed Washington D.C. to demand treatment.
ok so biel has a nail in her head, what comedy disorders did the other 3 have
― goole, Monday, 28 January 2013 17:27 (twelve years ago)
starring in a DOR comedy
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 January 2013 17:31 (twelve years ago)
"Pre-existing condition. GTFO."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 January 2013 17:33 (twelve years ago)
shelved due to angry test audience who were all oh you meant literally
― © all the feelings (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 28 January 2013 18:07 (twelve years ago)
was just reading this review and wtf why would they even bring up this crap movie as a reference point!?
http://artforum.com/film/id=38784
― s.clover, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 19:02 (twelve years ago)
http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q686/tinyservants/Screenshot2013-01-31at20936AM_zps0f766b46.pngcool blurbs dudeshttp://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q686/tinyservants/abomination_zpsc9f61c41.gif
― slam dunk, Friday, 1 February 2013 04:14 (twelve years ago)
that's fucked up
― goole, Friday, 1 February 2013 04:18 (twelve years ago)
okay i'm glad to see others thought this was.. not good
and how was the mom wearing a kevin kolb jersey???
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Friday, 1 February 2013 04:51 (twelve years ago)
this had terrible things in it, but is not terrible in toto, not worse than Argo anyhoo. Cooper and Lawrence have their charms.
Football fandom does not work as a Big Life Metaphor.
When de Niro did his crying scene sitting on the bed, I thought "Nice acting exercise, Bob."
wtf Jacki Weaver Oscar nomination? The role is barely there.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 February 2013 03:33 (twelve years ago)
Russell has definitely made a Faustian pact
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 February 2013 03:34 (twelve years ago)
Argo at least moved. Five minutes into SFB and bludgeoned by the sitcom dialogue/situation, I was looking at my watch.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 February 2013 03:37 (twelve years ago)
*SLP
this was my longest exposure to Chris Tucker
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 February 2013 03:40 (twelve years ago)
You'll know Russell has made a Faustian pact when he goes the full David Gordon Green route.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2013 03:54 (twelve years ago)
bludgeoned by the sitcom dialogue/situation
u have a problem w/ sitcom aesthetics? but Tina Fey is the Mark Twain of our age!
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 February 2013 12:26 (twelve years ago)
Sitcom aesthetics work wonderfully in sitcoms.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2013 15:54 (twelve years ago)
i like a lot of pretty junky rom-com type movies, and maybe i would have been more ok with this if there was no oscar hype but... man, this was not good. not good at all. some terrible corny cliched dialog in the first half of the movie, for one thing. the only thing i liked about it was the dance scene at the end - i appreciated that JL's outfit was kind of tacky and lame and that their dancing wasn't somehow magically super professional.
― just1n3, Friday, 15 February 2013 02:01 (twelve years ago)
I really wanted to like it despite all of the drubbing here but it really wasn't good. The actors were fine, but the script was kind of abysmal. It was totally sitcommy in a fairly unforgivable way (f'rinstance, what the fuck was even the point of the psychiatrist as a character if they were gonna go that direction with him?). Reminded me of The Descendants with its 'pointless seriocomedy Oscar bait' stylee.
― Charles Drangus (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 February 2013 02:13 (twelve years ago)
i ended up liking the descendants quite a bit more than this
come to think of it, i wonder if j-lawr hasn't stolen shailene woodley's career.
― goole, Friday, 15 February 2013 04:10 (twelve years ago)
Watched this last night and by morning I had completely forgotten that I saw it. I'm reminded of those later James L. Brooks "people's foibles are funny" movies that could have had a bite to it, but just feel inept and out-of-touch. Thought that Lawrence did the best she could with the script. Wanted more Jacki.
Read a couple of interviews with original author Matthew Quick and he seems like a douche. From: http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/get_out/movies/article_c6da13fe-359c-11e2-9437-0019bb2963f4.html
Could you tell me about the creation of Tiffany? Was the character inspired by anybody you know?It’s funny; people ask me that all the time, like, “Did you know someone who needed to sleep with everybody in the office?” and the boring answer is “no.” I think what Tiffany really represents is that explosive quality that forces you to take a hard look at yourself. Pat is delusional – especially in the book, he’s much more delusional in the book. He just does not want to face reality and Tiffany is the one that grabs Pat’s head and makes him look squarely in the mirror at someone that he doesn’t want to see.My wife is nothing like Tiffany at all; she’s not loud, she’s not going to walk into a room and command a room, but very quietly, my wife Alicia and I are in a great debt of gratitude and love. She knew in my 20’s that I wasn’t the very best that I could be and I had kind of given up on dreams. She very purposefully made me look at that. Around my 30th birthday, we had some very long talks about what we wanted out of life, whether we were in the position that we wanted to be.
It’s funny; people ask me that all the time, like, “Did you know someone who needed to sleep with everybody in the office?” and the boring answer is “no.” I think what Tiffany really represents is that explosive quality that forces you to take a hard look at yourself. Pat is delusional – especially in the book, he’s much more delusional in the book. He just does not want to face reality and Tiffany is the one that grabs Pat’s head and makes him look squarely in the mirror at someone that he doesn’t want to see.
My wife is nothing like Tiffany at all; she’s not loud, she’s not going to walk into a room and command a room, but very quietly, my wife Alicia and I are in a great debt of gratitude and love. She knew in my 20’s that I wasn’t the very best that I could be and I had kind of given up on dreams. She very purposefully made me look at that. Around my 30th birthday, we had some very long talks about what we wanted out of life, whether we were in the position that we wanted to be.
Interesting to note that the Weinsteins first had Sydney Pollack scheduled to direct this and then Anthony Minghella and then finally DOR when the other two died. Cursed?
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:41 (twelve years ago)
I interviewed Quick and he seemed slow.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:47 (twelve years ago)
Couldn't resist.
Nah, clearly this was a long-term passion project for DOR and he was forced to murder Minghella and Pollack to ensure he got to make it.
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 13:19 (twelve years ago)
3-way debate:
I’m confused as to why nobody—I’m thinking not just of you two, but of every critic whose review I’ve read, having by now read several of them, confused, again and again—is talking about how totally bizarre this movie is. Perhaps that’s because it is, in certain respects, a meticulously conventional movie; it absolutely deploys “the rom-com formula.” But within those considerable constraints it gets very strange.
http://www.themorningnews.org/article/heres-the-thing-about-silver-linings
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 03:53 (twelve years ago)
Its strangeness is obvious from the first ten minutes, no? De Niro "acting," the sitcom dialogue, the tonal slippage...it's Flirting With Disaster directed by Arthur Hiller.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 03:56 (twelve years ago)
had no idea what this was, had it on in the background with the sound off, was a very strange experience -- jennifer lawrence and some guy are running around! yelling at each other! the guy is wearing a garbage bag! now robert de niro is yelling at someone! now jennifer lawrence and the guy are sitting in an unfurnished room, yelling! now they're running and yelling! now robert de niro is yelling! now jennifer lawrence is! now the guy is! now the guy from boardwalk empire no the other guy no not him the other guy is getting beaten up! now there's a dance routine and robert de niro is happy!
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Sunday, 17 March 2013 05:15 (twelve years ago)
and then i read the summary on wikipedia and frankly come the fuck on
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Sunday, 17 March 2013 05:16 (twelve years ago)
This would have been the worst movie I saw in 2013 if it weren't for the fact that I saw Zero Dark Thirty. Guys, look, super attractive upwardly mobile heterosexual white people have problems too!
― Everything You Like Sucks, Sunday, 17 March 2013 06:10 (twelve years ago)
well we do.
― j., Sunday, 17 March 2013 06:14 (twelve years ago)
It also does a pretty good job of making clinical depression akin to moodiness, which, lol.
― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Sunday, 17 March 2013 06:43 (twelve years ago)
tbf he's bipolar and i don't think they mention depression about her
― caek, Sunday, 17 March 2013 10:55 (twelve years ago)
hoooo boy
Long-gestating JFK assassination conspiracy film Legacy of Secrecy is reportedly finally coming to fruition, with director David O. Russell at the helm... First announced in 2010 by Leonardo DiCaprio’s Appian Way banner, the film centers on FBI informant Jack Laningham and Mafia kingpin Carlos Marcello (to be played by Robert De Niro) who confided to Laningham that he ordered the hit on Kennedy.
http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/leonardo-dicaprio-legacy-of-secrecy-david-o-russell-robert-de-niro
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 May 2013 19:22 (twelve years ago)
This was good, better if they hadnt shoehorned in the dancing or the sports obv but still not bad. Thought cooper was especially good in the first half before it turned into a national lampoon imitation. Not sure where oscar for lawrence. came from but dammmmmn either way.
― my name is louis and i'm an acoleuthic (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:59 (twelve years ago)
not *that* awful but from the pt where the eagles/dancing parlay bet is conceived to the dancing competition scene is like a happy madison courtroom finale level of contrivance
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 00:20 (eleven years ago)
complete w/ input from tangential minority characters
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 00:25 (eleven years ago)
How this guy got work, after shit like this i'll never know
CLOONEY: David Russell wrote as good a script as I’ve ever read. If ought to get it. He wanted a lot of other actors before me. They went to Mel and to Nic Cage. I wanted to work on this movie. David is in many ways a genius, though I learned that he’s not a genius when it comes to people skills.
PLAYBOY: Did you learn about that the hard way?
CLOONEY: I did. He yelled and screamed at people all day, from day one.
PLAYBOY: Did he yell at you?
CLOONEY: At me often and at someone daily. He’d throw off his headset and scream, “Today the sound department fucked me!” For me, it came to a head a couple of times. Once, he went after a camera-car driver who I knew from high school. I had nothing to do with his getting his job, but David began yelling and screaming at him and embarrassing him in front of everybody. I told him, “You can yell and scream and even fire him, but what you can’t do is humiliate him in front of people. Not on my set, if I have any say about it.” Another time he screamed at the script supervisor and made her cry. I wrote him a letter and said, “Look, I don’t know why you do this. You’ve written a brilliant script, and I think you’re a good director. Let’s not have a set like this. I don’t like it and I don’t work well like this.” I'm not one of those actors who likes things in disarray. He read the letter and we started all over again. But later, we were three weeks behind schedule, which puts some pressure on you, and he was in a bad mood. These army kids, who were working as extras, were supposed to tackle us. There were three helicopters in the air and 300 extras on the set. It was a tense time, and a little dangerous, too. David wanted one of the extras to grab me and throw me down. This kid was a little nervous about it, and David walked up to him and grabbed him. He pushed him onto the ground. He kicked him and screamed, “Do you want to be in this fucking movie? Then throw him to the fucking ground!” The second assistant director came up and said, “You don't do that, David. You want them to do something, you tell me.” David grabbed his walkie-talkie and threw it on the ground. He screamed, “Shut the fuck up! Fuck you,” and the AD goes, “Fuck you! I quit.” He walked off.It was a dangerous time. I’d sent him this letter. I was trying to make things work, so I went over and put my arm around him. I said, "David, it’s a big day. But you can’t shove, push or humiliate people who aren’t allowed to defend themselves.” He turned on me and said, “Why don’t you just worry about your fucked-up act? You’re being a dick. You want to hit me? You want to hit me? Come on, pussy, hit me.” I’m looking at him like he’s out of his mind. Then he started banging me on the head with his head. He goes, “Hit me, you pussy. Hit me.” Then he got me by the throat and I went nuts. Waldo, my buddy, one of the boys, grabbed me by the waist to get me to let go of him. I had him by the throat. I was going to kill him. Kill him. Finally, he apologized, but I walked away. By then the Warner Bros. guys were freaking out. David sort of pouted through the rest of the shoot and we finished the movie, but it was truly, without exception, the worst experience of my life.
PLAYBOY: Did you resolve things? Would you ever work with him again?
CLOONEY: Life’s too short.
http://www.clooneysopenhouse.com/t86-interview-with-playboy-june-2000
― piscesx, Friday, 25 January 2019 22:59 (six years ago)
yeesh
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 January 2019 23:53 (six years ago)
That's a really great interview, the whole thing.
― Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 26 January 2019 00:59 (six years ago)