Nurse who took the call from that australian radio station found dead

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20645838

Duchess of Cambridge hospital nurse found dead
A nurse at the London hospital where the pregnant Duchess of Cambridge was treated has been found dead in central London, the BBC understands.

The King Edward VII hospital is expected to make a statement later.

Scotland Yard says officers responded at 09:35 GMT on Friday to reports of a woman found unconscious at an address in Weymouth Street, central London.

It is understood the dead woman took a hoax call from an Australian radio station earlier this week.

... waht

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There's supposed to be a statement from the hospital at 15:30 ..

oh man

Fucking hell, what a mess. It's possible the hospital went down on her extremely heavily.

Oh definitely, you can lose your job for breaching patient confidentiality. She's probably had the press camped out on her doorstep too.

The little I heard from the 'report' only went as far as saying she had been discharged, and she was pregnant.

I daresay there'll be some shredding of documents, some place somewhere...

(Thanks for the title fix, was hoping it was a hoax when I first found it)

She only put the callers through to the ward, afaict she didn't 'give out' any info.
Following tweet seems relevant: "I'd direct all of Twitter to points 2, 8 and 11 from the Samaritans' advice on reporting suicide" http://www.samaritans.org/media-centre/media-guidelines/reporting-suicide-tips-journalists

"morning zoo"-type djs are the worst

Whoever tweeted that Samaritans guide OTM.

Seems to be some confusion as to what her 'role' was in what happened. Receptionist wo put the call through, or Nurse who gave out the information...

"morning zoo"-type djs are the worst

They are the lowest common denominator entertainment.

Mrs Saldanha, a duty nurse, answered the telephone because it was 05:30 GMT in the morning and there was no receptionist on duty.

It's the middle of the night in Sydney, it's possible the DJs in question don't even know about this yet.

their twitters are still bragging about the prank

Possible, but.

oh nm one of them just canceled their account

Does that remove all their twitter posts ?

were there "she was murderd" lol conspiracy theories already?

Probably, aye. I've got fuckers on facebook (not my friends, but friends of friends) calling for the DJs to be charged with manslaughter.

BREAKING NEWS:The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge say they are 'deeply saddened' by the death of nurse who took hoax phone call

Controversial opinion: It was not their fault.

controversial theory: she is not dead - it's her revenge prank.

Who, the DJs or those royal cunts? (xp) This is sick.

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The (Future) Queen('s) (Nurse) Is Dead

nothing to do with the royals ffs

BBC royal correspondent Peter Hunt said he understood Mrs Saldanha was the person at the King Edward VII hospital who answered the call from the Australian DJs and was not the nurse who discussed the duchess's medical condition.

what the fuck deems

last night a dj ended my life

when was the last time this happened in france or russia

or in pretty much any country where the head of state and progeny aren't afforded the sort of ludicrous deference that considers the enabling of this insipid bantz to be a cause for mortification

weak

next u will be apologizing for the black and tans

I thought you said "black man" for a second

It's like this, even if you aren't to blame, Kate + Wills, fuck off anyway

^

pretty sure shit like this has happened in russia

I'ts not just royals who are afforded this kind of deference, but given certain well-publicised invasions of privacy earlier in the year the chances of the royals or whoever works for them having just laughed this prank off are pretty slim. Depends what went on behind the scenes at the hospital really.

In 1895 (xp)

I'ts not just royals who are afforded this kind of deference

Some people deserve it though

I called Stalin while pretending to be Lenin and he agreed this was a stupid line of conversation.

it's like this: wah wah wah royals everywhere. Rise or stfu.

or in pretty much any country where the head of state and progeny aren't afforded the sort of ludicrous deference that considers the enabling of this insipid bantz to be a cause for mortification

In the US she probably would have been fired or disciplined if a call like that went on the air -- it doesn't matter if it was royalty. It would be a hippaa violation. UK laws wrt medical information are probably somewhat different, but could still possibly be grounds for termination.

... of life

nicole otm.

She didn't give out any personal information, she transferred a call from the switchboard to the ward.

xxp

onimotm

it is weird that the hospital didn't have a better system for dealing with enquiries considering the profile of some of their patients. my wife has done nursing shiftwork on wards and in hospices and it is not unusual in those situations to have nursing staff deal with incoming calls during the quiet hours, but this particular hospital must have calls made to them by the press etc all the damn time

ailsa, amen to that

i can't fathom the idea of listening to a radio show that does that kind of thing.

prank-calling breakfast djs are the scum of the earth and should be eradicated regardless of whether they were to blame in this instance

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If this is a breakfast show it couldn't have been live then, right? Cos 5.30 am here would be, what, afternoon in Australia?

this is nothin to do with royalty and everything to do with celebrity,

You can't honestly believe the reaction would have been the same had it been Brangelina or Jude Law + whoever. I know you live in Ireland but you're not that out of touch with what's going on over here, are you?

But I suppose I don't know much about Irish society and how it works

Nick Witchell might have put on his serious face for the news reports but the tone of most of the coverage, particularly online, was less 'shocking breach of protocol' and more 'lol look at this stupid nurse'. It's not so much direct deference as a kind of ultra-celebrity nobody else can touch.

I think, had it happened three weeks down the line, it would have received a fraction of the coverage. The news of her pregnancy was still fresh and the media needed an angle to keep it as its lead story of the day.

getting a call from the head of state is definitely a bigger deal than simon cowell or w/e. the royals defintiely have a unique & peculiar status & relationship to their subjects, being embodiments of one of the country's oldest institutions (&for a lot of ppl embodiments of the country itself) but also these idle existers who don't have any function to perform on which they cld be judged (the queen's attainment of polite blankness is hailed as her major achievement). it makes them inhuman & hard to deal w/ beyond cherishing them in a slightly abstract way or loathing them (which seems meanspirited). the idea of having to deal w/ them on a night shift is hell.

also, who the fuck prank calls a hospital.

some people do worse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia9EwG0HjA0

getting a call from the head of state is definitely a bigger deal than simon cowell or w/e.

Yes, I've heard today some people saying the media should lay off Kate + Wills through the course of the pregnancy as if it's just some celebrity pregnancy and the little bastard isn't going to be one day head of state and we aren't all going to his/her's subjects

for real though there's reason enough for pessimism now with the population's serf-like behaviour in 2012, but i'd fucking hope that before it's this spawn's time to ascend to the throne we've found it within ourselves as a nation to guillotine the fucking family already

along with prank-calling breakfast djs

all of them

behead them

Serfs aside, there are good reasons most women don't sound the pregnancy klaxon until they're 12 weeks gone. I do feel sorry for the couple-as-couple, mainly because the only reason we know about someone eight weeks gone is because of their status and the questions that would be asked if the D of C turned up at this hospital with 'possible food poisoning' or whatever.

Calling hospitals for LOLs is never OK and as for violating doctor-patient confidentiality for LOLs... well, I'd elbow that person in the face if they'd done it to me.

"if the D of C turned up at this hospital with 'possible food poisoning" what does this mean?

it's a hypothetical cover story for severe morning sickness

Calling hospitals for LOLs is never OK and as for violating doctor-patient confidentiality for LOLs... well, I'd elbow that person in the face if they'd done it to me.

agreed, and if those DJs had done this to actual human beings it wd be terrible

They have - hence the problem.

lol serfs, the rest of the world is free, oh the tragedy, wills is comin to behead us on a whim

serf-bored dudes wiped out totalitarianism

Oh nose, we can't keep up w saucy Aussies

Good round-up here:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/2day-fm-suspends-all-advertising-amid-royal-prank-backlash-20121208-2b1zy.html#ixzz2ER7Gwi9Q

Also, speaking of legal matters, apparently no answer so far re nurse giving release for broadcast of her voice (recording played way after death announced)

Yes of course

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/dec/12/morrissey-royal-family-nurse-death

i kind of wish brit media had another go-to vector for anti-royalism than him

yeah in general it's not a great selection

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:British_republicans

idk what john milton is up to these days tho

"Does she have a health condition?" the singer asked. "Is it anorexia or is it pregnancy? … I mean morning sickness already? So much hoo haw and then suddenly as bright as a button as soon as this poor woman dies she's out of hospital? It doesn't ring true."

a real expert on women's bodies speaking there

lmao the turkish wiki for british republicans lists stan collymore

cockroach collymore

exterminator collymore surely?

the strange pathos of etc

Wikipedia is telling me the British Whigs eventually turned into the LibDems... good job, British republicanism!

i don't think the Whigs were ever Republican, they just wanted Parliament - well, them and their friends tbh - to decide who got to be monarch and what the monarch ought to think

oic, I thought they were anti-royalist to a much stronger degree. If not, I guess it makes sense that being a wuss-pants half-measure party in the first place led to... well, another one.

i think even amongst the guys who'd fought against Charles I there wasn't much appetite for a republic by 1660, the hardline republicans were mostly shifty working class religious zealots with horrible ideas about communism and democracy who were executed or imprisoned or sidelined. the political sect that coalesced into Whigs in the 18th century was the party that favoured the appointment of William III as co-monarch in 1688. the division between proto-Whigs and proto-Tories was essentially that the former thought Parliament could depose a bad monarch and the latter thought it never had that right. class politics factored into it a lot too but both sides were broadly in agreement about the necessity of a "constitutional" monarchy. republicanism was a good way to get yourself executed or gaoled a good way into the 1800s.

It's odd in a way, that the phone call from the australian radio show has been described fairly universal as a 'hoax' call.

Whereas it was a 'fake' call, 'hoax' is more 'a building is on fire' sort of thing..

universally

Geez obsessed much? What a stupid opinion. Of course it's sad the nurse died. Being in the public eye like that can be unbearable when you're just a little nurse. It's easy to forget that and be callous about it, but when you're caught in some situation with the royal family and pressured by the media - that's an experience most of us don't go through.

I'd blame her employer first for putting someone unable to handle the pressure in that situation. It's not good for the royal family and not good for her.

Princess pregnancy is so boring, why does anyone pay attention at all, that is so sleazy.

Whose opinion is stupid?

POLL

idk

ijdk

nother self-rejected thread idea

(Just throwing in my bit on c17th republicanism, this will not have anything to do with the poor nurse.)

the Whigs aren't at all uniform by 1688 - and their most radical wing would still be called Whigs, but they're in touch with Republican theorists on the continent (Holland, that is, really), and are pressing for a radical limitation of monarchy, at least, during the Convention Parliament of 1689.

There is an aristocratic element to this republican tradition - Algernon Sidney is the main figure in it in the later c17th , Robert Molesworth, I think the Russells, you can sort of tie 3rd Earl of Shaftesbury into it, but it shades into mainstream Whiggism there. Intellectually, it goes from trolly deist sorts like John Toland, through to Locke, who either knows or has seriously read everyone mentioned, and spent time in exile in Amsterdam. Basically, Classical republicanism rather than Leveller democracy, but it has ties to the scruffy artisanal radicals.

i think even amongst the guys who'd fought against Charles I there wasn't much appetite for a republic by 1660

Yeah. The 50s government is broadly hated, and the whole thing has been army-enforced, basically.

Milton is more or less the only one brave/stupid enough to call for another go at a republic (or 'commonwealth') in 1660 - think everyone else knows which way wind blowing.

(Milton calls for a commonwealth ruled by a council of 12 aristocrats who have their positions for life fwiw.)

tbh Oliver Cromwell was actually asked by parliament to become king in like 1655 or something.

1657, after the rule of the major generals.

Whose opinion is stupid?

― Mark G, Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:41 AM (1 hour ago)

Good question, hope it doesn't fall through the cracks.

Probably not much to say on this...only heard about it at the weekend.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tuc-leader-frances-ogrady-speech-on-class-system-cut-off-by-royal-baby-newsflash-9719503.html

First I've heard of this baby, go me.