things richard burton claimed to dislike about the irish

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/dec/06/great-actor-who-hated-acting/?pagination=false

celts will be celts

fuck u

Are we voting for the thing we like the most, or the thing that we agree is worst about the Irish?

the silly soft accents. look, jeff mangum agrees with me. smile jeff!

http://www.freewilliamsburg.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/jeffmangum.jpg

Readin his diaries over someone's shoulder atm

Mock belligerence

lol deems i often think of that in relation to u

otm, obv applying credence to such things as national traits isn't ideal but hat one seems fair imo

wait i have just found an actual unedited transcript of richard burton's diaries and there's another one

their ability to use self-deprecating humor with a light touch

i was literally just thinking "darraghmac is basically the king of thats-what-she-said jokes in a irish style" apropos of nothing mere seconds before this thread was born.

although not so weirdly synchronous, as i think about darraghmac all the time

Matt cree p

Play nice nilmar btw

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Such charming people. Excuse me while I hate them for it.

thir posture imo

When I was a kid every holiday was in Tralee at my grandmothers house. When I started hitting my teens she started crashing me fags, pouring me brandies and asking me questions about the Pet Shop Boys. Burton is just a minnow anyway.

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obvious charm robbed yis bastards

very occasionally i get accidentally copied into emails from some irish fellas arranging drinks to watch the rugby. it's frustrating because there's loads of them and they always reply-all so i can get 50 emails in one day arranging to meet up in The Field in Milltown or wherever esle. It happened today but rather than my usual approach asking them to remove me from their address books and contact the real c0l1n 0hara i started replying-all (apropos of not much) with obscure references to "paris is burning"

"The whole of Milltown will be wrapped up in LaBeija, Lads" attaching jpegs

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in the hope that they'll realise it's a different 0hara and be more careful in future. and when i get some nonplussed responses i keep on with the gnomic refs and jpeg sending

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i don't know why it was "paris is burning", it was just the first thing that came into my head.

so anyway one of the lads, not getting or simply ignoring the jpegs asks me how i got on with "that bird on friday night... I heard you spit roasted her with John. Which end did you get you legend?" to which i reply that i didn't get either end, i was in the middle. "so john give it to you in the ass or mouth??" to which i reply "don't be gauche, c0nor"... another of the copied in recipients twigs and starts apologising for including me in the emails but br1an doesn't get this and replies - "Thats not what I heard 0hara....I heard she was passed out drunk when ye were at her! Thats bad man. Lets just hope she doesn't remember..."

and now i'm like.... wtf!?

ah the lads!

"Thats not what I heard 0hara....I heard she was passed out drunk when ye were at her! Thats bad man. Lets just hope she doesn't remember..."

Can just see the roguish twinkle in the eyes

jesus christ @ that jed story.

i'd say what annoys me most about irish people is our belief that we are somehow unique in all our imagined positive and negative national traits. however i can't be sure that i'm not guilty of this belief myself in even implying that this isn't how everyone thinks about their own respective country.

the whole "oh we're terrible begrudgers in ireland" or "we're great craic in ireland" or "of course we never protest anything in ireland" or "that's irish people for you" whereby all of the traits, good and bad, are designed to build up a large rickety edifice of our flawed but still magnificent individuality.

the silly soft accents

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Try that again...

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i'd say what annoys me most about irish people is our belief that we are somehow unique in all our imagined positive and negative national traits. however i can't be sure that i'm not guilty of this belief myself in even implying that this isn't how everyone thinks about their own respective country.

the whole "oh we're terrible begrudgers in ireland" or "we're great craic in ireland" or "of course we never protest anything in ireland" or "that's irish people for you" whereby all of the traits, good and bad, are designed to build up a large rickety edifice of our flawed but still magnificent individuality.

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heh, this too is sort of ... every nationality, though

yeah as i suspected. i've been sucked in!

Constructing a positive national or racial identity is difficult work, especially when you've got overbearing conquerors who construct their own racist version of your identity and rub your nose in it on a daily basis. The irish are far from alone in that.

are you of irish descent aimless?

Being a typical American, I am of mixed european descent, but my patronymic traces back to Co. Tyrone, circa 1850, and I identify with the irish more than, say, the germans or the english.

jed that is hilarious

i would be tempted to do some sleuthing and report the rape allegation to the....uhm....local garda

Oh, I should add that I've an uncle who's a priest, but my father left the church in disgust. This never caused bad blood between the two of them, though. It was a large, tightly-knit family.

aimless, no americans ever identify with their german ancestors

this is one of the reasons i am going to be my thread of great german americans eventually

the worst thing about national self-stereotypy is the 'x culture is about close-knit families'

going to /do/ my thread

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Great lads the turks

funny you mentions all that nilms, turns out i'm irish! i always figured we were german. my mom's fam is all german. i figured my dad's latter-day hibernomania was total crap; we have an irish name but none of the other trappings. but i quizzed him, and dad's dad moved to the midwest from bklyn during ww2 and thank christ dropped his catholicism to get married. just think, i could have a whole other set of psychic fetters. that's my fackin story.

your thread, should it exist, must include these peeps:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turners

Jed any chance you copy all ilx in on that mail

Alway had goole down as one of us tbrr

My purely german-american grandmother had three sisters. Their father strictly forbade all of them to consort with irishmen. Of the four, three of them married irishmen and the fourth become a nun. I guess they didn't identify well with the german side of the family, either.

He set every paddy in the territory on alert with that challenge tbh

Welles lavished praise on actors he admired such as Joseph Cotten, his co-star in The Third Man ("brilliant") and John Wayne ("some of the best manners of almost any actor I've ever met in Hollywood"). But at others he hurled insults. At one point another titan of acting, Richard Burton, approached him in the restaurant, saying: "Elizabeth [Taylor] is with me. She so much wants to meet you. Can I bring her over?" Welles replied: "No. As you can see, I'm in the middle of my lunch."

When you're a conspicuous genius and aging enfant terrible there were certain conventions which must be upheld and rudeness to Richard Burton was one.

never get between orson welles and his lunch

especially when he was working on the second bottle

see Welles thread for the full story, slowpoke

yes i carefully excerpt it so one doesnt need to read crappy ilx film threads