US Dept. of Defense lifting ban on women in frontline positions

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Boom.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 20:50 (twelve years ago)

This seems like it ought to be a pretty big deal, but otoh I'm unsure why it should be.

Aimless, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:36 (twelve years ago)

pretty much how I feel. on one level it's interesting and indicative of all sorts of things, otoh who cares combat and the military and war is hardly what it used to be

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:40 (twelve years ago)

Well yes but then you get reactions like these

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/23/panetta-lifts-pentagon-ban-on-women-serving-in-direct-combat/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:45 (twelve years ago)

i had no idea women didn't see "combat" (whatever this means) before this

k3vin k., Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:47 (twelve years ago)

surely there are no countries in the world that the right-wingers aspire to be like that let women serve in combat

Mordy, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:48 (twelve years ago)

Exit question for opponents of the Iraq and/or Afghanistan wars: How excited are you to have a giant new pool of soldiers available to make future wars that much more feasible?

hm

k3vin k., Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:53 (twelve years ago)

women are already serving in support roles. i can't imagine allowing them to serve in combat is going to change the "can we go to war" calculus significantly

Mordy, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:54 (twelve years ago)

pretty clear that we go to war first and figure out where the soldiers come from second these days

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:58 (twelve years ago)

pretty sure no one in the Pentagon is thinking "if only we had enough chicks in the army, we could invade Iran!"

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:59 (twelve years ago)

war is hardly what it used to be

"combat" (whatever this means)

Even though large set-piece battles with masses of infantry and tanks have been a rarity for quite a few decades, war and combat still exist in the direct, visceral meaning of other people getting up in your face intending to kill you, maim you or otherwise inflict maximum bodily damage upon you, and you are expected to forestall them by getting up in their face with the exact same impersonal, yet very personal, intentions.

fyi, the army still uses infantry and they still go on patrols, wear helmets, carry rifles, shoot bullets, dodge incoming shells and eat some pretty nasty shit. war isn't all rockets fired from drones, yet.

Aimless, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:15 (twelve years ago)

I worry about the persistence of the pathologies depicted in The Invisible War.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:34 (twelve years ago)


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