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so, what do people think?

of his stuff?

of his influence on music?

gareth, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

"I must create a new regime/for answering obscene phonecalls"

Mark E. Smith = very alert and smart Blake reader

draGnet = (among other things) review/critique/answer record to [insert several enormous blake poems here]

mark s, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

William Blake Influence on music: Ulver

Ulver - Themes from William Blake's The Marriage of Heaven and Hell the website includes an MP3 for the curious.

One of the most astonishing,intense and original albums of the 90s that mixes rock, experimental electronics, techno, folk, industrial, breakbeats and jungle.

Ulver have also released a more electronic based record this year called Perdition City that is also highly recommended.

DJ Martian, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

He was the direct inspiration for Tangerine Dream's Tyger album. No matter how highly regarded he is, it is a musical stain that I will not soon forget. The poetry that I've read has been pretty good, I guess.

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I love Mr. Blake, but aren't too bothered about much of his work. I like 'The Marriage of Heaven and Hell' and 'Songs of Innocence and Experience', but have never really started on the epic poems. His painting is rather marvellous too. I just love his spirit and revolutionary fervour more than anything.

Many have cited him as an influence -- Mark E. Smith, Coil, Jah Wobble, Richard Ashcroft, Billy Bragg, The Fugs, er... Zodiac Mindwarp -- but I'm not too sure what relevance he has to much of their work. Mark E. Smith seems to have gone much further with him than most, and has probably suffered similar psychic torments. Coil are pretty passionate about him too.

Johnathan, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Bragg made a horrendously bad pun on Blake's name as an album title. I hate Ashcroft's posturing so much that there's going to have to be someone very talented come along to redeem the word "Blakeian" in popcrit for me.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

MESmith has the slight advantage here that he's a better writer than Blake. And singer (possibly...)

mark s, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I do like David Axelrod's 'Song Of Innocence'. I do I do I do.

DG, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

'Arid Al's Dream' by The Fall is a very funny take on one of Blake's lines from 'The Marriage of Heaven and Hell'...

"Folly is the cloak of knavery"

It takes someone of Smith's genius to realise what a fucking great line that is. He did something with Blake, rather than repeating "Heaven in a Wild Flower" and all that jazz.

Johnathan, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Actually it was 'Ed's Babe', not 'Arid Al's Dream', for anyone who gives a toss. The old memory's not what it used to be.

Johnathan, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

six years pass...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/04/11/do1102.xml

^^ some bald people fighting over a comb. ends on note of spectacular mentalism.

banriquit, Friday, 11 April 2008 10:58 (eighteen years ago)

That last para is totally wtf and seems to have gone completely uncommented.

ledge, Friday, 11 April 2008 11:10 (eighteen years ago)

Anti-racism and gender egalitarianism... "the follies of the age". That's pretty tough shit, even from the mouth of a conservativr priest.

Tuomas, Friday, 11 April 2008 11:30 (eighteen years ago)

I can't even work out what he's trying to say in that graf.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 11 April 2008 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

Isn't it this song they sing in the church in V for Vendetta (the comic) right before V kills the bishop? I can totally imagine this guy as that bishop in the comic.

Tuomas, Friday, 11 April 2008 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

The contention that "dark satanic mills" refers to the great churches, and their being in thrall to the enlightenment follies of the age, seems highly questionable.

And what is this modern folly of "compliance"?

ledge, Friday, 11 April 2008 11:44 (eighteen years ago)

Isn't it this song they sing in the church in V for Vendetta (the comic) right before V kills the bishop? I can totally imagine this guy as that bishop in the comic.

-- Tuomas, Friday, April 11, 2008 12:32 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i think so, yeah. it is sort of staggering if churchy types are coming out against it tbh. but this guy is crazy.

banriquit, Friday, 11 April 2008 11:46 (eighteen years ago)

That's not written by Peter "make a sad face; show Sid your fugee face" Mullen, is it?!

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 11 April 2008 11:51 (eighteen years ago)

No, he's Peter Mullan, dur.

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 11 April 2008 11:53 (eighteen years ago)

I made a comment but they eated it. Perhaps 'cause I used a mailinator address.

ledge, Friday, 11 April 2008 11:57 (eighteen years ago)

The contention that "dark satanic mills" refers to the great churches, and their being in thrall to the enlightenment follies of the age, seems highly questionable.

It's a pretty plausible reading of Blake, I think. Altho of course the dark satanic mills also refers to, erm, mills. The vicar is right: Blake would be a natural enemy of his brand of mealy-mouthed people-hating bullshit. But "Jerusalem" as a song isn't really just Blake any more, any more than Blake was "nationalistic" in the sense that this ecclesiastical cock-shepherd means it. I'm happy to get WB out of the C of E - he wouldn't like it there anyway.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 11 April 2008 11:59 (eighteen years ago)

If he saw the cathedrals as dark and satanic I would guess it would be because he was against organised religion in general, rather than because that particular brand of it might have adopted some enlightnment ideals.

ledge, Friday, 11 April 2008 12:03 (eighteen years ago)

Ledge, OTM.

I'm currently reading E.P. Thompson's biography of Blake, which is less of a bio and more an examination of Blake's antinomianism. All new stuff for me, but basically explores marginalized English religious sects that reject(ed) ethical or moral laws as put down by the church. Blake was big into these traditions.

I got into this, by the way, through the Mekons (and their exclamation of "William Blake, William Morris...Tony Benn!).

I gots to explore the MES/Blake connection further... "Dragnet," huh?

Usual Channels, Friday, 11 April 2008 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Weird that the only thread abt my mew faves person is on ILM.

Ponies are horse children (Abbott), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:11 (sixteen years ago)

Anyway, I had a dream that I came up with an idea that resolved all the more fucked up stuff about "female will" and rape in his epic works. I felt so good, and so solid, and so relieved. ANd I woke up – I woke up and I was in tears, and I forgot what the resolution was or how it worked, everything about it.

Ponies are horse children (Abbott), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:13 (sixteen years ago)

I mean waking up crying alone is v otherworldly.

Ponies are horse children (Abbott), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:17 (sixteen years ago)

why be bleak when you could be blake

phat vintage shit (r1o natsume), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:17 (sixteen years ago)

william blake is god btw

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:18 (sixteen years ago)

I wish more writing about literature was done after the manner of Milton A Poem.

Ponies are horse children (Abbott), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:22 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.blakearchive.org/blake/images/urizen.g.p25.100.jpg

^^^ love these things

Ponies are horse children (Abbott), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:26 (sixteen years ago)

The long sufferings of God are not for ever there is a Judgment

ahhhhhhh yes

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:29 (sixteen years ago)

re-reading jerusalem emanation of etc and keep misreading "lo!" as "lol!"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:37 (sixteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Speaking of 'lol,' I told my Blake-loving prof that I got into library science grad program, and after mad congrats, she told me that was "totally Urizenic." <3 <3 <3

kissogram powers (Abbott), Friday, 23 April 2010 04:43 (sixteen years ago)

Radio just played Parry's "Jerusalem" and I was thinking of my man W. Blake and then I opened up ILX and lo!

and ya thought that shit played out in ILX (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 April 2010 07:08 (sixteen years ago)

HERO.

Bow Before Zeezrom!!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 23 April 2010 13:45 (sixteen years ago)

Hecate is my desktop background image.

kissogram powers (Abbott), Friday, 23 April 2010 15:14 (sixteen years ago)

the Blake Archive image search site is appropriately bonkers, btw:
http://www.blakearchive.org/blake/imagesearch.html

kissogram powers (Abbott), Friday, 23 April 2010 15:20 (sixteen years ago)

What does it say about me that I immediately knew the plate that "Self-flagellation" referred to? -_-

kissogram powers (Abbott), Friday, 23 April 2010 15:23 (sixteen years ago)

that image search is breaking my brain - I don't even know where to begin

dyªº (dyao), Friday, 23 April 2010 15:32 (sixteen years ago)

Huge influence on Jim Morrison and Patti Smith. Amazing visionary!

ImprovSpirit, Friday, 23 April 2010 20:01 (sixteen years ago)

That image search is actually super useful if you have any insane personal hypothesis about what feet mean in his poems.

kissogram powers (Abbott), Friday, 23 April 2010 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/William-Blake/Milton-a-Poem-Giclee-Print-C12028296.jpeg

kissogram powers (Abbott), Friday, 23 April 2010 20:10 (sixteen years ago)

I feel like C93, apart from being extremely Blakeish, have done something on an actual Blake text, but what is it...?

International Harvester Of Eyes (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 April 2010 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHOPqwZ0q4I

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 April 2010 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

Scathe8000 i sampled this song and made a hella scary remix

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 April 2010 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...
two years pass...

Anyone been to the exhibit @ Ashmolean btw, looking to go in Feb sometime.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n03/tj-clark/a-snake-a-flame

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 January 2015 08:42 (eleven years ago)

I can't see myself getting the day I'd need for a trip up to Oxford over the next month, but I may try. I would like to see the exhibition.

great article. I've only really started reading T J Clark in the last year or so - need to get hold of some more of his books.

woof, Thursday, 29 January 2015 10:46 (eleven years ago)

likewise going soon I hope. friend of mine went and she was a bit lukewarm on it, but struggles a bit with Blake anyway.

I went again to the Tate Britain the other day to look at some of them - ghost of a flea is never less than remarkable. noticed for the first time properly the skies where his emanations are at play - silver green twilights, burning mornings, roiling night. gives a feeling of places right at the end or the beginning or after/before all.

one painting of the Juggernaut, which I hadn't properly looked at before was remarkable for the minor demons and figures at play around the central figure.

Fizzles, Thursday, 29 January 2015 10:49 (eleven years ago)

eleven months pass...

http://www.temenosacademy.org/temenos_hrh_message.html

is it weird that prince charles supports this thing

j., Monday, 11 January 2016 01:10 (ten years ago)

two years pass...

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article3424845.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/On-the-Buses-main.jpg

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 11:28 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAFGGzs_ebk

mark s, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 11:30 (seven years ago)

Recently bought a collection of his illuminated works, it is a wonder to behold.

Fantasy Eyelid (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 12:59 (seven years ago)


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