When Did Old-School ILX End and New-School ILX Begin?

using the ILX search function, i noticed that the first mention of "old-school ILX" was made in April 2003 (by bona-fide old-school ILXor Strongo). that seems a little TOO early though ... i'd put April 2003 firmly in the "old school" camp.

but when did this magical change occur exactly?

discuss differences etc.

the rise of the noise board and/or the decline of the noise board and/or registering required for posting?

between the end of the Chatterley ban and the Beatles' first LP iirc

please see "ESTEBAN BUTTEZ: The First Ten Posts"

Classifications used are too simple, iirc we are now nu^4

the rise of the noise board and/or the decline of the noise board and/or registering required for posting?

you are but a child!

when ilx was first invented, you used to have to put a shovel of coal into your computer five times a day, or anytime you wanted to refresh new answers. in 2001, we all pooled our coal together and created a zing!

whenever ppl stopped capitalizing things

I think there was a middle-school ILX that hasn't quite been defined yet.

*raises hand*

feel like there are a few ELE in the fossil record:

-rise/fall of LJ
-secret borad warz
-chaki?

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/richman-jonathan.jpg
I said the Old-School ILX may be dead
New posters can't understand
But I
Still love Belle and Sebastian
And I still love the Old Board

Currently ilx 5.0 iirc

That seems like mid-period to me. (xpost *2)

LJ did not fall he ascended

that seems a little TOO early though

no i was actually otm

i could do a phases-of-ilx post up to a certain point but i kinda lose the thread around 2008 and a lot happened between now and then that i'm not even really sure of.

ease of embedding images/youtubes is the pivot in my mind, when was ihttp introduced?

ease of embedding youtubes came w/ the redesign in 2006, iirc?

obv the true new-school ILX is STILL TO COME as any fule kno.

the true new ilx was within us all along

the true new ilx will come again in glory
to judge both the living and the dead
and its kingdom will have no end

ease of embedding images/youtubes is the pivot in my mind, when was ihttp introduced?

just as there's an argument that most genuine evolution in music stems from technology (electrification, the keyboard, the sampler, etc), this logic does seem to applicable to ilx - youtubes, the coding toys of jw, the s-ban

when i was saying good night to rufus last night i told him that sometimes i felt weird because it didn't feel like i was living in the present and that instead it felt like i was living in his past because so much time is spent later in life thinking about childhood and the dim memories you have of your weird father telling you strange things when you are trying to fall asleep.

<3

rufus is ilx3 imo

banning dom and ethan was pretty much the end of ILX's first golden era, and the beginning of our neverending nightmare of polling AcclaimedMusic.com lists, penning unnecessarily long "wacky" thread titles, and basically sitting around the campfire making smores and singing cassie songs

Two of the bigger ilx turning points I can recall:

* the advent of real user registration: no longer could anyone log in with any name at any time, and the (unverified and often false) email address associated with a poster's login name disappeared at the same time and 'display names' were added soon after. This allowed users to sort out who was in the pig pile.

* the introduction of the suggest ban and the tightening of moderation: ilx became less like the wild west and more like post-homesteading era; shit-stirring for its own sake dwindled down to a mere shadow and vestige of its once-mighty presence.

77

aimless's last bit feels pretty otm to me. when i came back from my latest vacation, in 2011 i was kinda surprised by how hugs-and-kisses things had gotten.

bring back sb, but with a 10 sb ban limit

man you guys sound like positive spaces are a bad thing

sitting around the campfire making smores

yes this sounds horrible, who could possibly enjoy sitting around a campfire having delicious snacks

man you guys sound like positive spaces are a bad thing

I think Whiney explicitly prefers combative environments to positive spaces? not meant as a dig I just ideologically he is happier when people are aggro w/one another

really I think ideological differences over the nature and purpose of social spaces is the question here and I demand a much more boring thread about it

I, for one, welcomed the adults stepping in to stop the eternal food fight. But it was a bit more that the founders of ilx grew up and got tired of mashed potatos in their hair.

i cant decide are clusterfucks more fun with butthurtedness or without, but we need the odd clusterfuck either way to keep the silt from settling on the bottom

i dunno about old vs new but the current era started around the time 77 became the nu-tittwis

What nu-ILX? Ned just posted something about Loveless.

The great continuum.

The longest way round is the shortest way home

I thought nu-ILX began in January 2005, with the inauguration of Bush and my arrival.

old-school ilx ended when i love everything was created

That's actually true.

When it left Greenspun. Maybe when Sep 11 happened as well.

Greenspun days were fun

Answer is though - no poxy fule

old-school ilx ended when i love everything was created

― crüt, Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:41 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

come to think of it, that is prob. the correct answer.

What nu-ILX? Ned just posted something about Loveless.

― Leopard Skin POLL-Box Hat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:25 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The great continuum.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:34 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The longest way round is the shortest way home

― Leopard Skin POLL-Box Hat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:36 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNb4VKln1uw

When I changed from Jeff-PTTL to just Jeff.

wait, tad, was my use the phrase "old-school ilx" before or after i became strongo? because frankly that right there is the dividing line.

founders of ilx are mainly long-gone to lj and tumblr. serious old ilx was v. small and friendly and discursive -- the rise of zing culture was arguably the first big shift. at a certain point i lost track of most people and i never really figured it out again.

Strongo:

old school ilx does it better in every way
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, April 25, 2003 2:24 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so, it was before!

and fremme neppa w/e

Never forget.

I've always looked at the December 2006 - February 2007 exile in the sandbox, followed by stet/Keith's nu-code rollout as the single dividing line between old/nu.

sub-board mods immediately became less powerful, while sub-boards simultaneously became more visible (via SNA), followed by things like mandatory registration, polls, SB, and 77.

everything else (posters, memes, clusterfucks) are just points on a continuum

http://i.imgur.com/yCCK2Jp.png

otm

Old school ILX ended when sub-boards became a thing in the first place. Or when we moved over from Greenspun.

Actually I'd say that old-school ILX probably runs up until about 2004 and the creation of the Noize Board. There was a real marked tonal shift at that point. Middle period ILX is probably up until the new code in early 2008. Since then it's broadly felt like same place with the same group of posters, but they feel like three distinct eras.

let's not forget the era of ysi begging.

the fucking worst

new code was early 2007

GUess papers was a thing on one subboard about six people went on and no one else was involved with, I dont get how it is even remotely a big ilx "thing". Random googlers generally, sure. But to pluck that out you might as well do the same for hairdye advice or Dave Matthews.

there was something very specific about guess papers to 2005-2006 Internet in general though; where an unused thread on an abandoned board populated by people from English speaking countries suddenly made it to the front page of results for a term being searched by high school students in India and Pakistan.

it may have just been an in-joke for the IRE crew but it definitely spoke volumes on where ILX sat in relation the the rest of the Internet at large at that time

wasn't the hairdye advice thing the same though? one thread coming up in searches over and over again.

The hairdye stuff seems to have dropped off in recent years, while 8% of our google traffic still comes to SEXY PHOTOES

how exactly did Ask Dr. Freud get started? message boards got a little more boring and a little less chaotic once Yahoo Answers (and similar services) corralled naive advice-seekers into one place and capitalized on their naivete.

lol xpost

IRE still bringing it in '13

"guess papers" in my timeline was a stand-in for random googlers + subboard activity in the post-Aja/Dante era

Google search on "poxy fule" returns more than 23,000 hits. ILX originated pages dominate the first couple of pages I looked at. Of course. First noteworthy exception occurs on this page:

http://www.asexuality.org/en/topic/68311-everybody-dance-now-or-maybe-not/

statscock era feels like old-school.

"guess papers" in my timeline was a stand-in for random googlers + subboard activity in the post-Aja/Dante era

That I get with, it wasn't all that clear that was the implication, though.

guess papers were and are v important to me

new-ilx began when crut's voice broke

that would probably be around the time ILE was created, actually. before I posted though.

And just to be pedantic for a tic, we cant call the original board before ILE was created "old ILX" because it wasn't ILX back then, dammit, it was I Love Music ;P

http://kuci.org/~nraggett/nedwedding.jpg

Ha :) The ol' purple tie.

Sandbox was in 2007? Was there another sandbox time after that? How the heck was that 6 years ago?!? Jeez, I'm feeling old...

Old school ILX ends when Dan, Nicole and I stop posting on it.

Sandbox was seen once again in this quadrant at the end of 2011 iirc.

sandbox was off and on beginning in '06 but the extended period was december '06 - feb '07-ish

the dec '11 - jan '12 was an eerie callback to that era

the return of gabbneb

p3r.net was sandbox right?

no p3r.net was wh3rd.net, which was Andrew's server in Aus.

[quote]What is rockism?

[MARK S CAN YOU FILL THIS ONE IN!][/quote]

was Aeon Flux Top Level ever populated? i occasionally check to see if any squatters have quietly moved in but all i ever see is .....#

new-school ilx = the rockism question being taken off the FAQ

Actually I'd say that old-school ILX probably runs up until about 2004 and the creation of the Noize Board. There was a real marked tonal shift at that point.

OTM.

It's actually not just "zing culture" but the creation of a space on ILX with an ethos that felt significantly different from, and often antithetical to, the rest of the site. There were subboards before Noise -- I Love Books, Film, and maybe even Baseball predated it (probably others, too) -- but they felt more like natural outgrowths of the site as it was, with ILM as the existing model for specialized conversations. In its early days, the subtext coming from the Noise Board was that the space was, in fact, superior to the rest of ILX. If old-school ILX had a decidedly British slant, with even the Americans at least somewhat Anglophilic, the Noise Board was not only NYC-focused by default but those American Anglophiles were actively sneered at. I'm sure there's been a certain amount of cliquishness on ILX since day one, but the Noise Board was the first time I felt like, "Do I even belong here?"

These days, I think the existence of different ILX "crews," with different sensibilities and values, is taken for granted. And it's not necessarily a bad thing, either. Even though I did have some negative experiences with the Noise Board in its infancy, I ultimately like a lot of what it brought to ILX and don't know that I'd want to return to the days before it.

77

was Aeon Flux Top Level ever populated? i occasionally check to see if any squatters have quietly moved in but all i ever see is .....#

top level is empty but if you can get to the lower levels it's still pretty active

xxp Ha, also, I want to clarify that I was not one of those "American Anglophiles," btw.

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how do we know we're not in the early phases of a new era of ilx

The Aimless Era?

the golden oldie years begin here and now

these are the halcyon days

These are the days my friends and these are the days my friends.
Could it get some wind for the sailboat. And it could get those for it is.
It could get the railroad for these workers. It could be a balloon.
It could be Franky, it could be very fresh and clean, it could be.
It could get some gasoline shortest one.

The Era of Good Feeling?

r.i.p. heave ho's sexess.org era of ilx

http://couponclippintexan.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Era-Fist.png

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Chuck_5d4cd1_2573518.jpg

http://www.first-stop.org/2011/04/22/ladder-to-sexess/