― Mandee, Wednesday, 25 September 2002 16:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 17:02 (twenty-three years ago)
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mandee, Wednesday, 25 September 2002 17:19 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 17:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 17:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 17:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 17:58 (twenty-three years ago)
''nine women, one guy, me: plus the hella-oogly office manager who appears to be in love with me and comes in every 4.2 seconds with a new stupid conversation starter''
aww...
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 18:36 (twenty-three years ago)
if girls are playing gamez more than ever before (and i'm told they are), how come this doesn't translate to better gender representation? is it because, for guys, gaming has become more a lifestyle than simple diversion? and, if so, is 21st century woman actually nietzsche's superman? ha ha...
― mbosa, Wednesday, 25 September 2002 18:48 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 21:04 (twenty-three years ago)
I think this indicates that women who have proven qualifications are likely to be employed in areas that require those skills. But when employment depends on other, less easily defined skills (that are also traditionally male domains) women are less likely to be employed. It could also be that the people who make hiring decisions in those areas are likely to be older men without much formal education (and so more comfortable hiring men, to generalise greatly).
― isadora, Wednesday, 25 September 2002 21:21 (twenty-three years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 21:28 (twenty-three years ago)
As a failed geek I can't really blame being female for it (though the bell curve thing - point 2 in Skud's first article - may apply, but it would be nothing but arrogance and lunacy to think I might ever have been above the very bottom anyway) but I was the second person ever from my all-girls high school to apply to do computing and the IT teacher had done maths at uni so nobody could really tell me much about it, like, "Don't be stupid, everyone else on there will be expert linux kernel patchers who've been coding since age 2, having no social skills but plenty of fond memories of Manic Miner really isn't good enough." Then again I'd never have got a place at all if I wasn't female and therefore able to make the prospectus gender stats look a bit better. (I've gone into more detail in previous arguments on the subject but I can't be bothered, I don't feel involved enough in IT to comment any more, and I've never really known what I think about it.)
The male:female ratio at my job is - perhaps surprisingly - almost even, though most of the women are on the helpdesk, in charge of training courses or doing admin. The actual tech people are almost all male. But then it's a place that'll give unqualified clueless lusers like me jobs anyway.
One of the first year computing exams was in the same hall as an English exam, and you could definitely tell which rows were which.
― Rebecca (reb), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 21:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 23:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 26 September 2002 01:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 26 September 2002 01:17 (twenty-three years ago)
everyone else on there will be expert linux kernel patchers who've been coding since age 2, having no social skills but plenty of fond memories of Manic Miner really isn't good enough
HEY! I wasn't a linux kernel patcher, and I hadn't programmed AT ALL between the ages of 10 and 20!
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 26 September 2002 07:53 (twenty-three years ago)
This after a huge giant meeting which I spent happily snoozing, until 3/4 the way through I hear my name being volunteered to give every cockfarmer I.T training. For 7.50 p/h you can shove it mate. I have so far not given anyone I.T training. Haha or I will start with the lines "learn how to do this" and THEN come to me saying "oh dere I do not know how to do a meeting request or use voting buttons".
― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 26 September 2002 08:52 (twenty-three years ago)
Sarah, agencies yesterday were telling me that I'd be looking at 6 to 8 quid an hour for temping jons, this is what I was getting six years ago when I first moved to London and didn't have 5 years experience of handling millions of pounds worth of stock every day, the cunts.
― chris (chris), Thursday, 26 September 2002 08:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― chris (chris), Thursday, 26 September 2002 08:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― toraneko (toraneko), Thursday, 26 September 2002 10:58 (twenty-three years ago)
You're still putting that stuff about your grand theft stationery-cupboard experience on your CV then?
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 26 September 2002 11:03 (twenty-three years ago)
― Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Thursday, 26 September 2002 11:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:06 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― Graham (graham), Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― Anonymous (Anonymous), Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:21 (twenty-three years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― Pline (Anonymous), Thursday, 26 September 2002 13:07 (twenty-three years ago)
Everyone in my 'team' is a bloke - our marketing and communications person is a woman. This despite market research being a famously female industry.
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 September 2002 13:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― Anonymous (Anonymous), Thursday, 26 September 2002 13:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 27 September 2002 10:25 (twenty-three years ago)
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― bosko, Monday, 14 June 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)