Super Bowl vs. Academy Awards

Super Bowl just barely watchable without judicious use of fast frwd button. Academy Awards impossible to watch without extensive use of fast frwd button.

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AA impossible to watch without ILX play-by-play

I don’t really get why people watch the academy awards, even if you like movies

it mostly makes sense to watch the super bowl if you like football

One thing the Oscars have on the Super Bowl: No one watches "for the commercials."

the super bowl is fine if you mute the commercials and maybe the rest of the game too

From time to time something real happens at the Super Bowl.

prince has never performed at the academy awards but three 6 mafia has never performed at the super bowl

Academy Awards are a perversion of something I love. The Super Bowl is the crowning climax of an institution I loathe.

Oscars has (even) more cleavage.

but super bowl has janet jackson's nipple

yeah i considered that for a second!

movies > football games > award ceremonies

the rippling flesh

I don’t really get why people watch the academy awards, even if you like movies

when I was a kid I watched so I could see the clips of movies I wasn't ever going to get to see, and also I was really into getting to see 5 live performances by 5 different artists, to see how they could sing live and stuff. I'm not a kid now and I can see all that stuff elsewhere, iatee otm

Academy Awards:clothing::Super Bowl:commercials

haha otm

I watch the AA because I love fashion/dresses. The awards on their own are corny and zzzz.

can't you just look at pictures of them or something

I grew up resentful of award shows because they weren't live on the west coast, which made the whole thing even more ridiculous

I would much rather watch the AA's if everyone showed up in sweatpants.

academy awards are live on the west coast aren't they

grammys too?

nope

when you win the super bowl you immediately get a hat that says you won the super bowl

super bowl win: thank teammates, god

oscar win: thank director, producers, studio, agent, manager, marketing firm of collins, collins and hildebrandt, casting director, wife, writer, editor, cinematographer, set designer, no shout out to god

AA: terrible people in a building celebrating each other
SB: terrible people on a field slowly killing each other

good argument for the super bowl

If being forced to choose, Super Bowl. But only if I can watch it on mute.

Robert Opel streaking vs. Janet Jackson nip-slip

Kirk Douglas shows up occasionally on the Oscars to hit on Anne Hathaway, so guess what?

Do you have to ask?

(Oscars.)

i've never tried to watch the super bowl but i have tried to watch the oscars so i voted super bowl

when hunter s thompson got in a car w nixon they did not bond over the academy awards

And for a few reasons:

1. I'm a big nerd about Oscar history and trivia and about the shaping of the popular movie canon, and so it's fun to watch records be set and conventional wisdom coalesce (or be upset), etc.

2. I'm a sucker for all the pomp and circumstance of a live television event with big-time celebrities (and other industry types) being spontaneously awkward or weird or awesome, and I love sitting in a room with friends and being snarky about it.

3. I've won a few hundred bucks betting on it over the last decade or so.

i've never tried to watch the super bowl but i have tried to watch the oscars so i voted super bowl

Ha, I don't remember, T, were you at McKay's for the Oscars in 2011? That was fun, though also pretty tense b/c I had to leave for the airport like the minute the ceremony ended.

i wasn't; i ended up at a bar somewhere where a. phillips of pitchfork told me to start using conditioner. then i dropped $80 on a cab to lax driven by an armenian whose radio was playing one of the songs i'd talked about in my emp presentation. ("what were you in town for?" he asked.) i use conditioner now.

that was an expensive goddamn cab ride.

sport (albeit only in three second bursts) vs painfully scripted backslapping

Super Bowl has never observed George Kuchar's death

Ha, they should have an in memorium montage at halftime with Arizona Cardinals, Cleveland Browns, RG3's knee..

lol

Bonding with my father vs. bonding with my mother...

I thought of a similar poll a few weeks ago, but it more along the lines of "Which institution is most likely to be still around and almost exactly the same 50 years from now?" Academy Awards, Super Bowl, World Series, Olympics, Cher, etc. (Between these two, I was only interested in one a long time ago, and have been rapidly losing interest in the other the past decade.)

sports are boring. pageantry is fun. oscars.

Bonding with my father vs. bonding with my mother...

haha my mom Watches For The Dresses and yeah i would totally watch it with her

THE SUPER BOWL THAT IS

No pageantry at the superbowl huh

http://sitracking.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/chris-culliver.png

I don't do the pageantry, man.

super bowl is more inescapable and i've been made to feel like i'm not a man because i don't care about it. it's assumed you'll watch it. AA is fucking tedious but some years i won't even know about it til after it happened, and then there's the photos of insanely attractive women all dolled up for it so...

movies that get pimped (mostly) aren't the movies loved by cineastes, but they're also not the movies people teenagers actually want to go see.

fixed

also iatee, I guarantee you baseball will be around in 50 years, it's survived 150 years of being run by idiots.

well the question is whether only robots will play it or only people from the caribbean

http://mimg.ugo.com/201008/54813/cuts/blackwhitealien_288x216.jpg

Superbowl sunday was fantastic because there was a golden girls marathon all day and then I changed it to the half time special for Beyonce.

Even though I personally would prefer to watch the AA, I still voted Superbowl. I don't know anything about football but I would think it has more meaning and entertainment value to football fans and within the context of sports than the AAs do to movie fans and within the context of film.
At the same time if we were voting which was worse I would probably also vote Superbowl, since I hate the culture surrounding American football.

i may be way off but the culture surrounding "celebrity" (for which the oscars are perhaps the big event) is equally gross.

not a fucking halftime performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2IcoVQO7yo

i may be way off but the culture surrounding "celebrity" (for which the oscars are perhaps the big event) is equally gross.

gross in an awesome way though

watching assholes be assholes vs. watching assholes' asses

Not fake at all fawning at opening of this clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jOevP1O28M

btw milo, I think you missed the years those middling box-office successes Titanic and Frodo III swept the Oscars.

Was genuinely surprised to find out that the Grammys are earning pretty consistently higher ratings these days than the Oscars. Pour one out for an officially antiquated powerhouse.

"they give out awaaahds for that? I thought just earplugs."

Trying to figure out why it doesn't bother me that the Oscars honor movies that I don't necessarily think are the best of the year.

1. Of course they don't. It's not called the Jaymc Awards. They honor movies that AMPAS members, with all of their inevitable biases and prejudices, think are the best of the year.
2. That said, even though I've outright disliked some Oscar winners, there's usually enough nominees in any given year that I do like and can root for. (Does that make me middlebrow? Maybe.)
3. Do the Oscars give an undeserved imprimatur of quality to some films at the expense of others? Sure. But as I said upthread, I'm still interested in how that happens, from the perspective of a cultural observer. And those other films, let's remember, don't suddenly disappear as a result of the Oscars. These days, non-Oscar-y films -- ones that are low-budget/experimental/foreign/etc. -- are more accessible than ever, if only on DVD/VOD/Internet.
4. I don't know what it would mean if the Oscars replicated my tastes exactly. What would that accomplish? It's like when people say, "In a perfect world, this song would be a #1 hit." Would it simply mean validation? An opportunity for a shared cultural experience? Both the Academy Awards and the Billboard charts, two institutions in which I take a great deal of interest, are imperfect in many ways. But for as much as they're seen as authorities that elevate some cultural creations and not others, they're also fascinating glimpses at the mechanics of how popular culture is sold and consumed and the values we attach to it.

In most cases I think the AAs reflect what AMPAS thinks they SHOULD think are the best of the year.

(eg, The Last Emperor over Moonstruck)

Also, arguably, No Country over, I dunno, Juno.

In most cases I think the AAs reflect what AMPAS thinks they SHOULD think are the best of the year.

And that's interesting, too!

I can understand how 'the idea of the academy awards' could be interesting, I just can't understand how someone could actually find entertainment in watching the painfully slow and boring 'actual academy awards'

Watching people I've never heard of thank a bunch of people I've never heard of is infinitely more entertaining than watching people I may or may not have heard of perform astounding feats of athleticism.

but once in awhile Blake Edwards comes out and does a motorized wheelchair gag. Automatically superior to any Super Bowl. xp

film >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pro sports

even so both of these "events" are boring as fuck

I can understand how 'the idea of the academy awards' could be interesting, I just can't understand how someone could actually find entertainment in watching the painfully slow and boring 'actual academy awards'

The people are pretty, and some of the jokes stick. It's also easy to get excited when there's money on the table.

People radically overstate how boring the AA are.

it's only boring if you watch it

when I used to watch I would root for the worst movies to win, cause it would help erode any credibility the award still has

well Crash kind of retired that strategem for all time

was obv v. happy that year

What kept me watching most years till a couple of years ago:

1) Death montage
2) Documentary award
3) Aren't-American-movies-the-greatest? montages
4) Very occasional acting award (e.g., Bill Murray in Lost in Translation)

The first is still there, the second increasingly less interesting than 10 years ago, the third long since tiresome, the fourth still very occasional. I still watch some, I won't lie. But not much.

but he didn't win!

I know, but he was someone to root for. (Two years running, I think.)

haha remember when Ellen DeGeneres hosted and that shadow-tableaux dance group made like a gun out of their bodies for some reason, why did that happen

(referring to the Super Bowl)

xps Yeah, Crash has sealed the deal for all time. (And ratcheted up the fun cachet, too.)

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/02/07/are-awards-worth-the-hype

why doesn't ilx have an oscar pool?

I'm in if someone else organizes.

Oscars just reaffirm the white straight male canon

yeah i dont buy into "gays love the oscars." fwiw i have equal contempt for fans of either of these self-congratulatory entertainment "events"

(i am still hoping kon-tiki will win though)

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gays love the Tonys

(at least the gays who've ever been to the theatre instead of the Black Party)

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Shockingly close, anyway.

I'll be watching Cabaret at MoMA

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/magazine/is-it-immoral-to-watch-the-super-bowl.html

This was my worst poll idea ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xknWZIAzBCc

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Black Sunday is funnier.

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You know what I most love about the #SuperBowl? It's nothing like a dying Rome.

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