The Ryder Cup

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yes, it's me asking another sport question!

So, as a doley scrounger (and getting ver ver fed up of it) suddenly it has a bright spot, tomorrow I can sit in front of the TV and watch the ebb and flow of the Ryder cup, the only golf I can truly sit and watch all day (other times I have to switch it on for ten minutes or so and then flick around other channels). It promises to be marvellous, a veritable dream team of US stars versus plucky Europeans, including my current favourite golfer Sergio Garcia.

Will you be watching? who will win?

chris (chris), Thursday, 26 September 2002 08:48 (twenty-three years ago)

US on paper look to have a far far far better team, the tetchiness has already begun with Garcia telling the US players to "chill out" after they complained about slow play. It's time to wheel out the old cliche, the US have a better team, but do the likes of Woods really have the character which matchplay requires????? I hope Padraig Harrington does well, it might inspire him to actually win a tournament instead of finishing second again and again and again and again.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 26 September 2002 09:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Harrington does seem pretty cool, the European team seem soooo laid back.

Sky have been trailing the whole thing so much though, daily updates on practice etc, yet all I can do is stare back at Butch's wonky eye.

chris (chris), Thursday, 26 September 2002 09:36 (twenty-three years ago)

what's great abt this competition is that while the americans haf the bettah team it is not known whether they will play together as one (which is what ronan is getting at i suppose).

remember last time the europeans were ahead after two days but the americans won the singles.

The only thing is the europeans seem to be weaker but they do have a chance.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 26 September 2002 10:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I will watch golf on television no matter what.

Question for our friends in the Emerald Isles: I was watching Woods victory in Ireland on television here in the States and was wondering if it was broadcast live here, I mean it must have been 10pm in Ireland when the match finished up. What time does it get dark over there? (yes, rub question but I'm fascinated by dusk).

lawrence kansas, Thursday, 26 September 2002 13:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I won't be watching, but I'll be watching it in spirit. My heart swells with pride whenever there's a major sporting event in the Midlands.

Has anyone ever been to the disco at the Belfry? Fucking fantastic, you can go outside and everything.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 26 September 2002 18:33 (twenty-three years ago)

ooh that was the scene of the most scandalous event ever at my old office Mr Miller. The strange Scottish bloke who worked in our office had had an argument with his girlfriend and passed out on the dancefloor smacking his head in the process on said dancefloor. Later he tried to pick a fight with a night porter, threw up and did god knows what in his bed and never turned up for the sales conference, how he wasn't sacked I'll never know.

I was a good boy, played snooker til three, turned up for the meeting then went round the three hole course in a very large score.

I see Tiger Woods has started being narky already!

Search: Olazabal dancing, Nicklaus and Jacklin in 1970 (? I think it was then), Seve and Olazabal playing together.

Destroy: Corey fucking Pavin.

chris (chris), Thursday, 26 September 2002 18:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I only wish I had a pooter in front of the telly so I could commentate on it on here, that would be ace, I know everyone would love it.

chris (chris), Thursday, 26 September 2002 19:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I would love it. But you know that.

Search: Seve laying into his caddy after plopping one in the water. I don't know if it was the Ryder Cup or not, but Search anyway.

I used to live in Olazabal's home town. I saw him receive the keys to the city or something like that. He wore his green jacket. It was very exciting.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 26 September 2002 19:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Search: Tom Kite's momumental grumpiness when interviewed by Steve Rider (!) in '89 just as Europe secured their 14th point... "we haven't lost yet", he upbraided Stevie R... he was actually right, the US nicking a tie (but failing to regain the Cup). Sam's tears, obv. Payne Stewart's concession to Monty amid the chaos in '99.

Jacko and Nicko - '69 (gotta be an odd-numbered year)?

I fear a return to the old pre-'83 days this year - a big win for the US, none of this down-to-the-last-coupla singles business.

I shall be following this on the Web and by mobile phone. Hmmph.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 26 September 2002 20:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, and destroy: Langer's putt in '91. Rocca's collapse over the last four holes in '93. Azinger's Desert Storm cap at Kiawah.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 27 September 2002 05:51 (twenty-three years ago)

well, so far....

Darren Clarke got off to an absolute flyer, some beautiful shots played to get three birdies in the first three holes. His game with Bjorn against Tiger (started slow, now good and boring) and Azinger (fitful).

David Toms is playing well, as is Lee Westwood, a welcome return to form for him.

Does anyone know what the "ill-considered" comments that Scott Hoch has come out with in the past that the Sky people can't stop harping on about. He has a very cruel face.

Sky's coverage is very very comprehensive, especially the interactive stuff.

chris (chris), Friday, 27 September 2002 08:34 (twenty-three years ago)

that should be Clarkey's game is the one to watch, lovely stuff, the lead changing hands a few times already.

chris (chris), Friday, 27 September 2002 08:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Eurpoe up in three! I'm amazed at this. Monty seems to be on fire, he was in a very good mood earlier, laughing and joking his way down the fairway. The American comentator was incredulous. Him and Langer are getting some big love from the crowds though.

chris (chris), Friday, 27 September 2002 09:49 (twenty-three years ago)

why the surprise, chris? europe always creams the us in the foursomes/fourballs.

has anyone commented on europe's beige cardigans yet? god, whose idea was THAT?

Jeff W (Jeff W), Friday, 27 September 2002 09:56 (twenty-three years ago)

they're not in Beige now they're playing in red today. I quite liked the beige and brown outfits though.

Why are some of the Americans wearing white shirts and some blue (azinger and at least one other?)

We do usually do well yes, but we're doing much better than I anticipated.

Woods looks like he's playing on his own rather than as a team, in fact I never saw him say a word to Azinger. Now Clarke and Bjorn are Dormy two. Radio 5 are suggesting that Tiger won't be appearing in the foursomes this avo.

chris (chris), Friday, 27 September 2002 10:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What I know about golf you could write out five times on the back of a 5 iron. How do the 'team' parts of this event work?

Tim (Tim), Friday, 27 September 2002 10:13 (twenty-three years ago)

all the best jobs are found on the couch with a remote control and sky box. good luck job hunting.

Kiwi, Friday, 27 September 2002 10:16 (twenty-three years ago)

there's your fourball better ball aspect of it like right now, where both players from each team play a ball each. Strategy comes in here where one can play conservatively while the other can go for it.

The other (I may be wrong here) is where all four tee off, but then they take shots in turns from the drive they prefer.

This is repeated tomorrow with singles on Sunday, where every team member plays.

and cheers for the job luck, may have an interview on Thursday!!

chris (chris), Friday, 27 September 2002 10:16 (twenty-three years ago)

monty and Langer four up, four to play!!

chris (chris), Friday, 27 September 2002 10:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Chris, you are quicker than the official site!

Richard Jones (scarne), Friday, 27 September 2002 10:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Bloody hell, that last hole in Bjorn/Clarke v Woods/Azinger took an age to come up on the BBC site - I managed to get two whole chapters of this here manual edited. What happened? I'm envisaging some kind of crazy lost ball fuss. 2-0 to Europe, likely to become 3-0 in next few minutes.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 27 September 2002 10:36 (twenty-three years ago)

All-square in the first two afternoon matches. I keep having to tip-toe to the toilet so as not to upset the Belfry balance. My breathing is thin and irregular. The BBC's wee desktop score thingy seems to work OK.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 27 September 2002 12:25 (twenty-three years ago)

All-square in the first three afternoon matches!!!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 27 September 2002 12:40 (twenty-three years ago)

why do ppl go and watch golf live?

mark s (mark s), Friday, 27 September 2002 12:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Verplank is the greatest surname on Earth.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 27 September 2002 12:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Better than Azinger and Furyk?

Richard Jones (scarne), Friday, 27 September 2002 12:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Monty and Langer one up!!!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 27 September 2002 12:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Bah! Tiger pulls ahead :-(

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 27 September 2002 12:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Tiger deserves chipmunks to bite his feet, after his cretinous attitude towards the Augusta controv.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 27 September 2002 12:57 (twenty-three years ago)

All square after one hole in the final game of the afternoon too. Blimey.

I can only assume that people go and watch golf live because they don't know how exciting it is via the BBC website.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 27 September 2002 13:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Clarke and Bjorn one-up after 8 holes. It's really hotting up now.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 27 September 2002 13:04 (twenty-three years ago)

The other (I may be wrong here) is where all four tee off, but then they take shots in turns from the drive they prefer.

Nah - foursomes is where each team only has a single ball, and the partners play alternate strokes. E.g. Garcia tees off, Westwood plays the approach, Garcia putts... next hole, Westwood tees off.

What you describe *is*, I think, a legit variation on foursomes, but I can't remember what it's called.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 27 September 2002 13:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Westwood plays the approach, Garcia putts...
or more accurately in this example, Garcia has a tricky bunker shot ;-)

Jeff W, Friday, 27 September 2002 13:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Daz Clarke and Bjorn now two up.

This foursomes business could lead to some terrible quarrels, couldn't it?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 27 September 2002 13:30 (twenty-three years ago)

MOnty and Langer now two up. Could someone take over feigning excitement please? I'm knackered.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 27 September 2002 13:42 (twenty-three years ago)

U.S. take the first afternoon foursome.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 27 September 2002 14:47 (twenty-three years ago)

...but Europe takes the second. Looks like it will be 5-3 to Europe overnight.

zebedee, Friday, 27 September 2002 15:27 (twenty-three years ago)

and now, start of Sunday, It's 8 all after a good solid comeback from the Yanks. Woods finally started winning things, and Garcia and Westwood were finally beaten. It's all down to the Singles and Torrance has taken a bit of a risk and put all his best players on early, Strange, the other way round, Could be interesting. I'll be listening on the radio all day as I'm not at home!!

chris (chris), Sunday, 29 September 2002 09:44 (twenty-three years ago)

and what happened last night with Garcia when he lost it? any eye witness accounts?

chris (chris), Sunday, 29 September 2002 09:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Only an ear-witness account from the radio, Chris. He chucked his ball in the lake and 'waved his arms around a bit'. Listening to R5 on the bus to Victoria was pretty excruciating - practically everything that could go wrong for Europe seemed to happen in that half-hour.

As close as the last nine Ryder Cups have been, I think I'm right in saying that the Americans have comprehensively won the Sunday singles six, maybe seven times. At the mo', Europe are up in five, down in one (Westwood getting stuffed by Verplank) and level in two of the eight underway - which is what you'd expect given the top-heavy nature of Torrance's selection. And the US have been fantastic on the back-nine the last two days, so all of these leads may be eroded.

I'm pessimistic. 15-13 to the US I reckon.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 29 September 2002 11:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm pessimistic too: last time europe was up by four and we lost. we needed to have a lead by two by the end of the foursomes. we'll prob lose.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 29 September 2002 11:14 (twenty-three years ago)

we won the Ryder Cup who hooo!!!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 29 September 2002 14:54 (twenty-three years ago)

great performance...never thought we'd kick the americans in the singles but there we are. sport surprises once again.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 29 September 2002 14:55 (twenty-three years ago)

How many countries did it take to beat the USA? I don't think it's much to be proud of.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 29 September 2002 15:01 (twenty-three years ago)

YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is from me, Vicky, MarkC, Madchen and Cookie!!

and Dastoor, piss off you lanky streak of piss

chris (chris), Sunday, 29 September 2002 15:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Also, it is golf.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 29 September 2002 15:02 (twenty-three years ago)

great weekend. we win the ryder cup. also arsenal won (my team) and villa lost (my brother's) to sunderland. great weekend!!!!


yeah and piss off N!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 29 September 2002 15:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Ally C says:

"Also N. is a cunt"

chris (chris), Sunday, 29 September 2002 15:05 (twenty-three years ago)

I shall piss off now.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 29 September 2002 15:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry too hasty..

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:12 (four days ago)

incredible shot that

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:12 (four days ago)

OMG Henley bottles it

Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:14 (four days ago)

Lowry for the cup

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:15 (four days ago)

Lowry I kiss you

Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:15 (four days ago)

Yes!!

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:16 (four days ago)

Done it!

I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:16 (four days ago)

fucking hello man

||||||||, Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:16 (four days ago)

hell*

||||||||, Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:16 (four days ago)

Holy christ.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:16 (four days ago)

my heart is racing

||||||||, Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:16 (four days ago)

Fucking hell

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:17 (four days ago)

Lads I was fucking sick when Hatton was taking that putt, so fucking happy for Lowry

Marsee playground (gyac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:17 (four days ago)

never in doubt

Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:17 (four days ago)

everyone please can we have a bit of quiet for the final few holes and the yanks still playing

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:19 (four days ago)

Lowry's shot to the 18th. Unbelievable.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:21 (four days ago)

Lowry interview is <3

Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:22 (four days ago)

Fucker had me in tears.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:24 (four days ago)

Offaly clutch

Marsee playground (gyac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:25 (four days ago)

viktor hovland’s neck… thank you

||||||||, Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:27 (four days ago)

tullamore phew

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:27 (four days ago)

biffo supremacy

||||||||, Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:27 (four days ago)

moment of claraty

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:28 (four days ago)

Hatton might actually finish this

Gaucho Marx̌ (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:38 (four days ago)

itll do

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:42 (four days ago)

where’s rory

||||||||, Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:46 (four days ago)

hes off with the yanks id expect

no better than bono rly

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:47 (four days ago)

Fucking hell, that got a bit too close for comfort.

LocalGarda, Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:48 (four days ago)

And yeah Lowry crying defo set me off also.

LocalGarda, Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:48 (four days ago)

i kinda find the emotion milking a bit much at every interview now tbh, even though ofc you allow the lads the overspill

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:56 (four days ago)

appointing a keegan as the manager idk tho

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:57 (four days ago)

massive hangovers incoming

||||||||, Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:58 (four days ago)

Keegan Bradley "I don't know whether I'll do this again"

I do, man, will I tell you?

LocalGarda, Sunday, 28 September 2025 21:59 (four days ago)

lol

Marsee playground (gyac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 22:01 (four days ago)

beggy keegan

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 22:01 (four days ago)

“Why is it so emotional” Brit reporter asks Dechambeau
“Love my country”

Mustn’t have loved it enough

Marsee playground (gyac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 22:02 (four days ago)

byson

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 22:13 (four days ago)

Fucking hell, that got a bit too close for comfort.

I did expect them to come back in the singles but not quite that much.

I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 September 2025 22:17 (four days ago)

Yeah it was always a big ask but they came to close to the biggest singles whitewash ever.

LocalGarda, Sunday, 28 September 2025 22:19 (four days ago)

An otherwise pleasant Sunday in my neighborhood has been ruined by the constant stream of loud, low-flying helicopters transporting rich people out to this event. It really has been maddening and non-stop. Glad that everyone is enjoying it on TV though.

Josefa, Sunday, 28 September 2025 22:25 (four days ago)

https://i.imgur.com/YwtDWnA.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/fc5r9eV.jpeg

Marsee playground (gyac), Sunday, 28 September 2025 23:20 (four days ago)

They get tae fuck is what they do.

I Didn't Always Agree With What He Said But... (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 September 2025 23:23 (four days ago)

An otherwise pleasant Sunday in my neighborhood has been ruined by the constant stream of loud, low-flying helicopters transporting rich people out to this event. It really has been maddening and non-stop. Glad that everyone is enjoying it on TV though.

― Josefa, Sunday, 28 September 2025 bookmarkflaglink

At least they weren't F-35s or something

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 September 2025 06:52 (three days ago)

It was only so close because of the crowd. There was a lot of mental exhaustion. Glad Europe got through.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 September 2025 06:57 (three days ago)

That was an awesome shot from McIlroy after telling some yank to stfu lol

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 September 2025 bookmarkflaglink

And from that they win the match!

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 September 2025 bookmarkflaglink

Every now and then I remember this moment and laugh. Just an all-timer from all my sports watching

The fan who caused this was shouting "Freedom".

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 September 2025 13:10 (three days ago)

watched this whole tourney. maybe too much golf to take in in a weekend lol.

lots of take-aways but i was really surprised henley left that putt short on 18. the screws were tightening and that wouldve really made the last couple matches intense. you just cant leave it short man thats the #1 rule

glad they made it interesting at least.

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Monday, 29 September 2025 18:40 (three days ago)

keegan bradley saying that maybe they should have set the course up differently when the usa had literally 2 years to decide how they wanted it set up was incredible. that the big idea they came up with was turning a boring but brutally difficult course into a boring but pathetically easy one was even more incredible. also whining about the half point for each side when one team has an injured player and saying the rule should be changed when you could have tried to reach an agreement to change it over the last 2 years is moronic.

oscar bravo, Monday, 29 September 2025 20:49 (three days ago)

the thing about henley's short putt is that it was perhaps the only real clanger in a pressure situation in about an hour straight across all matches- it really was an extraordinary run of golf from the US team

yes it makes that shot stand out, but it wasn't a cardinal error imo it was just a 7/10 shot- europe starting from where they were meant that the win was inevitable, to actually have brought them to a punch drunk standstill for that period has to be acknowledged as a stunning run- it makes his shot look and seem a lot worse than it was really

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Monday, 29 September 2025 21:38 (three days ago)

yeah they had to run it perfectly and yeah up to that point, they more or less had! they wouldve still won im sure but a couple more intense holes woulda been super cool.

Spottie, Monday, 29 September 2025 21:53 (three days ago)

that sand shot was nails though, awesome stuff

Spottie, Monday, 29 September 2025 21:54 (three days ago)


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