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Seventh horseman of the modernist apocalypse? Or creepy man with a wrong thing for mice?

mark s, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I heard that he is cryogenitically frozen

Disney cartoons, I like Donald Duck. The rest is just very twee, and not a patch on Warner Brother's cartoons.

jel, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

what does an animator have to do to pull the votes in?

mark s, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pathetic cold warrior creep-o. Wasn't much of an animator, either - he relied on his more talented slaves to accomplish that.

Kerry, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Old Disney like Snow White and the Jungle Book has to rate amongst the all-time greats don't they? (Forget the new stuff with Elton John and Sting screaming all over the soundtracks, though). And Disneyland is enjoyable despite the tat and piped music. Even better when noting what a dump the backstage actually is (I have been on stage twice at the Paris one and have been requested not to take backstage pictures so as not to 'spoil the magic'.) And the imagery, like coca cola, is great enough to make me forget all about Disney being evil global capitalists etc etc.

I don't think the 20th century could have been the 20th century without him.

Bill

Bill, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Let's not ever forget the live action films he made such as Davy Crockett. All awful except for the Apple-Dumpling Gang, which is saved for having the immeasurably wonderful Don Knotts.

I was very interested in animation as a youngster & read all the books I could about it. Unfortunately, all the ones at the library were about Mr. Walter Elias Disney. They were also very cocksucky. I would have liked something more objective. The only other point-of- view I got of the man was offered in Bill Peet's autobio, wherein he was a very bad man. Disney did help progress animation, though, i.e. the invention of multi-plane camera.

He was not really cryogenically frozen.

Disney cartoons were my main introduction to many popular stories, i.e. The legend of Sleepy Hollow. I thought Ichabod Crane was very good looking in the cartoon of it.

Many of the pre-1940 cartoons were very dull. There was one that won an Oscar, it had a barn and an owl and a windmill, and it was very windy and incredibly dull, especially when you are impatient and four. This film was basically a show-off for the multi-plane camera.

Pinnochio scared the feces out of me. Stromboli was awful, but worst of all was the evil white-haired man on Pleasure Island. 1. He said "jackass", which was the only swear word I knew when I saw it. I thought, "This film should be rated R." 2. He was so happy to send off the donkey children to salt mines. Pinnochio by Carol Collodi blew my mind when I read it to see if it was less scary. That is a perverse book.

Disney films (animated) after he died were not very good at all. I think Aristocats was made after he died. The Great Mouse Detective was pretty regrettable (even Vincent Price could not save it), but it was made in somewhat of a transitory phase right after they got a new president. They had some troubles for a while, but "saved themselves" after the Little Mermaid.

That is all for now.

1 1 2 3 5, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I hate Disney (apart from 'The Sword In The Stone') and always have. The Warner Bros and Hanna-Barbera cartoons were/are always better.

DG, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Disney turns every cool thing it touches (theme parks, sentient automobiles, homosexuality) into total crap.

Disneyland vs. Magic Mountain? Come on!
Herbie the Love Bug vs. KITT? Please!
Domestic partner benefits vs. Turbonegro? Whatever you say, apocalypse dude!

Kris, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The early films left an indelibly impression early in my life. I still watch them and consider them grate.
The rest strikes me as corprate colonialism and group think at its worse.

anthony, Tuesday, 14 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
Classic! I love the theme parks too! HATE ME NOW.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 22 May 2003 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I would like to cite Louis Prima's King Louis in the Jungle Book, and even more predictably the great Duck comics of Carl Barks and the almost as wonderful Mickey Mouse strips by Floyd Gottfredson. That's plenty enough to be classic.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 22 May 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

six years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhfp6Z8z1cI

3:25-4:12 or so.

"...hundreds of pretty girls..."
"...expert chemists..."
"...where even more pretty girls..."

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 12:50 (sixteen years ago)

I mean, if the expert chemists in the paint lab actually were pretty girls, more power to 'em.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 12:54 (sixteen years ago)

five months pass...

I just took Hannah to see The Princess and the Frog and imo it's pretty fucking wonderful

My booze, he weighs a ton (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 March 2010 15:40 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

http://www.deadline.com/2012/04/shocker-rich-ross-out-at-disney-more/

between recent disney films + his (financially successful but) aesthetically bankrupt tenure at Disney tv, the worst Disney Chairman ever?

Mordy, Friday, 20 April 2012 22:40 (fourteen years ago)

three years pass...

Animator/"imagineer" Frank Armitage dies

http://deadline.com/2016/01/disney-imagineer-and-illustrator-frank-armitage-dies-at-91-1201677878/

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 10 January 2016 15:56 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

oh shit it's going down
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/14/business/dealbook/disney-fox-deal.html

Mordy, Thursday, 14 December 2017 14:49 (eight years ago)

All of a sudden their little Avatar land in Florida makes more sense.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 December 2017 15:03 (eight years ago)

so they have all the x-men and f4 rights now right??

Mordy, Thursday, 14 December 2017 15:24 (eight years ago)

(what i truly care about the most)

Mordy, Thursday, 14 December 2017 15:24 (eight years ago)

well, I won't have to give money to the Murdochs when I watch a movie. makes sense in the same way as phillip morris ditching their Kraft division.

Einstein, Bazinga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 14 December 2017 16:13 (eight years ago)

xpost Yeah, it's funny how my excitement over that development eclipses the misgivings I should be feeling about the slow conglomeration of corporate entities into a single planet-consuming monolith. Kinda like Galactus, who might be in an Avengers movie now! Whee!

Oiled Launch (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 December 2017 16:15 (eight years ago)

Actually, the biggest bummer about this deal is that Disney isn't buying Fox News and mercilessly smothering it with a pillow.

Oiled Launch (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 December 2017 16:16 (eight years ago)

cringing at how the antitrust and consolidated media implications of all this is overlooked everywhere cos the internet is gaga over the possibilities of getting superhero in Y franchise and salivating over IP synergy

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 December 2017 16:48 (eight years ago)

if only we could all be enlightened like you

Mordy, Thursday, 14 December 2017 16:52 (eight years ago)

cue the auto critique. the state of modern consumerism has com-modified criticism as a self aware product. you have defined yourself the dominant consumer in this case since you have demonstrated meta awareness of your role as consumer (and thus normalized and internalized it, subsiding any rebellious instincts). i conceded to you.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 December 2017 17:19 (eight years ago)

fwiw i will be buying tickets to Star Wars to watch with my family and think it is actually cool that Princess Leia is a Disney princess.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 December 2017 17:21 (eight years ago)

it's just so banal. we're all fluent in critiques of capitalism/consumerism/monopoly issues around these parts. when you bring it up all exasperated like no one understands that the acquisition has ambiguous and even negative features it's a bit self-aggrandizing.

Mordy, Thursday, 14 December 2017 17:41 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

20th Century Fox does not exist anymore, I'm weirded out.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 21 March 2019 02:55 (seven years ago)

imo, the only indisputable value that Walt and his legacy corporate litigation machine provide to an intellectually undernourished world is their enduring commitment to the truth that good songs always improve movies aimed at entertaining popular audiences. This almost offsets their enduring commitment to simple-mindedness and formulaic scripts.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 March 2019 03:37 (seven years ago)

eight months pass...

I was watching GMA at the gym the other day and it's wild how much of a cross-promotional dystopia it's become, exactly as predicted. There were promos for multiple disney movies, a tribute to Bob Iger for winning Time businessperson of the year, etc. There was also some bullshit about a "shopping revolution" bc you can now shop through instagram or something, but I don't really know if that had to do with disney/abc or was just generally sad. None of this really matters, GMA is garbage regardless, but it was still striking.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 16 December 2019 16:27 (six years ago)

two months pass...

Iger out (drops mic)

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 22:59 (six years ago)

Lol that's sudden

WDW snobs recognize new guy bob chapek as a general no-good idiot

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:08 (six years ago)

Not that they cared for iger either

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:08 (six years ago)

It's way less sudden than it seems, all the succession planning's been in place for a while. Maybe he just got bored.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:28 (six years ago)

What's the speculation on the reason for this? I thought he was one of the most successful CEOs ever.

wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:32 (six years ago)

He was supposed to step down a few years ago but his intended successor was deemed unworthy by the board or something

I think this was just about finding time to mold another successor into the exact kind of bumbling yes man investors wanted

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:37 (six years ago)

three years pass...

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