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The ideological spectacle keeps up with the times by bringing out harmless plastic antagonisms; are you for or against Brigitte Bardot, the Beatles, mini-cars, hippies, nationalization, spaghetti, old people, the TUC, mini-skirts, pop art, thermonuclear war, hitch-hiking? There is no one who is not accosted at every moment of the day by posters, news flashes, stereotypes, summoned to take sides over each of the prefabricated trifles that conscientiously stop up all the sources of everyday creativity. In the hands of power these particles of antagonism are moulded into a magnetic ring whose function is to make everybody lose their bearings, to pull everyone out of himself and to scramble lines of force.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
mini-skirts 8
thermonuclear war 3
hitch-hiking 2
spaghetti 2
old people 1
hippies 1
the Beatles 1
Brigitte Bardo 1
nationalization 0
the TUC 0
mini-cars 0
pop art 0


silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 10:26 (thirteen years ago)

"hey man, let's all lose out bearings!"

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 10:53 (thirteen years ago)

let's find them

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

infinite feedback loop regression; I fought the board and the board won

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

unless I withhold my vote, but then I have already posted, see

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

each of these options could be easily given a contemporary substitute.

i feel like this sums up the spirit of a swathe of ILX, many of my own contributions included.

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

Torn between nationalisation, spaghetti, and thermonuclear war. I'd only truly desire the latter if nationalisation and spaghetti became permanently unobtainable.

oppet, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

opinion justified through boredom, obv. but what a feeble use of boredom.

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

voted brigitte bardo pond, the old nazi

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

and this is also how The News works. this week, you're invited to play fantasy Pope manager.

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

i keep falling asleep at my desk no matter how early i go to bed. what's up with that?

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

vague otm

this represents a paradoxical moment of choice between choice and pure aesthetic receptivity

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:11 (thirteen years ago)

7.Haven't you ever felt like giving up reading the newspapers and putting your foot through the television? In that case, you have come to appreciate that:

a.The press, radio and television are the crassest vehicles for the lie. Not only do they push real problems (such as "How can we live better?", a question asked in concrete terms every single day) further into the background, but they also induce each private individual to identify with ready made images and to put himself, abstractly, in the shoes of a head of State or a filmstar, or a murderer or a victim... in short, they induce him to react to life as if he were someone whom he is not. The images which rule us mark the success of that which is not ourselves, which haunts us out of ourselves; of that which transforms us into objects to be categorised, labelled and hierarchised in keeping with the usages of the general commodity system.
b.There is a vocabulary at the disposal of hierarchical power. It is to be found not only in the information services and in advertising, in ready-made ideas and habits and conditioned behaviour, but also in any expression which does not pave the way for the revolution of everyday life, every expression which fails to serve our pleasures.
c.Every moment one works for the commodity system (i.e. most of one's time), imposes on us its representatives and images, it's meanings and vocabulary. This battery of ideas, identifications and modes of behaviour dictated by the need to accumulate and to replace the commodity over and over again, makes the SPECTACLE in which everyone plays a part he really fails to live and lives falsely that which he is not. That is why role-playing is living the lie, and mere existence a sickness without end.
d.The spectacle (ideologies, culture, art, roles, images, representations, commodity-words) embraces all those aspects of social behaviour by means of which men enter the commodity system and, by becoming subsistence objects, (commodities) conspire against themselves, renouncing the pleasure of really living for themselves and freely constructing their everyday lives for themselves.
e.We subsist amid a forest of images with which we are driven to identify. We act less and less for ourselves and more and more as puppets of abstractions that direct us according to the laws of the commodity system (i.e. profit and power).
f.Roles and ideologies may be favourable to, or hostile towards the ruling system... it makes no difference since they are part of the spectacle, part of the ruling system in either case. Only that which destroys commodity and its spectacle is revolutionary.

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:12 (thirteen years ago)

why did it fail? I believe this is why:

"hey, you're reading Debord, he's cool"

"yeah he's great, I find his ideas very influential on my own"

"ah so you're a Debordian"

"yes, I suppose I am"

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

i repurpose this from the grip of a relationship with alcohol which i imagine as liberating but is actually a reification of submission to commodity capital, what i imagined in booze as subversive of commodity - it's impermanence, it's destruction thru use - actually being the quintessence of commodity.

still i'd rather, on the whole, be drunk.

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:16 (thirteen years ago)

xp

tools don't fail, they just get left behind by people who fail whilst using them

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:17 (thirteen years ago)

the only way to win, as ever, is not to play. but to receive, with equanimity. trouble with damascene anticommodification railing is that it just ain't zen

drunkenness is a sublime iteration of commodity, as it is so unconscious to its own highly controlled circumstances

the trick is to adopt these tools subtly, not by force but by the immeasurable weight of passive ingrowth. which is why deleuze hit me harder, just seemed much more chill, war machine and all

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

not that debord isn't otm, because he is, tragically and horribly so

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:19 (thirteen years ago)

this is also why sports journalism and reportage is an infinitely nobler craft than its current affairs cousin - sports may be the spectacle but they are tangible and permit participation; their agenda is not opaque and they are to some extent aesthetic

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, and criticism that participates with its objects is a valid discourse. only score-keeping and the claims of objectivity are repressive mechanisms in and of themselves.

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

Is this the Spam Poetry thread?

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

no this is the glib celebration of the status quo thread

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:32 (thirteen years ago)

perhaps this season, I shall play cricket without caring of my personal score, just the aesthetic manner in which to address the ball and interact with the vast expanse available for penetration, my antagonist's cunning in preventing the bowler's best efforts breaching my defence

mark g, keeping us honest as ever

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

who can deny that a tendency toward the asymptote of pure aestheticism is a similarly asymptotic escape-route worthy of consideration?

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

Without scores it's even closer to masturbation than currently is the case

gubba hoy hoy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

you say it, padre, like masturbation is a bad thing

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

sport as occasionally mutual masturbation is possibly its highest imaginable ideal

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:47 (thirteen years ago)

Mutual masturbation as sport several cuts above it tbh

gubba hoy hoy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

there's an open goal in there somewhere. the taking of an open goal can be a pure aesthetic act, maybe the purest

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

nah scores in sports is fine, it was the scoring of the non-sporting that repelled me

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

but for the individual participating to play without a care for the score, that sounds like a fine thing

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

a chap could lose his bearings in weather like this

multi instru mentat list (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

Scoring in football is vital as it tethers the formless-or-form-compromised expression of physical endeavour to a narrative of localised achievement and pride, a narrative which is largely organic, self-governing and difficult for the fingers of commerce to entirely corrupt, try as they might

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

mini-skirts!!!

j., Tuesday, 12 March 2013 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

*bites nails*

Woody Ellen (Matt P), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 00:51 (thirteen years ago)

I pressed the button for thermonuclear war

Everybody wants a piece of the (Viceroy), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 01:01 (thirteen years ago)

picked old people. considered spaghetti, tho.

Aimless, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 01:07 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

Up with mini-skirts!

Everybody wants a piece of the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

sex is the biggest sell, followed by apocalypse

delete (imago), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:13 (thirteen years ago)


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