Do you ever actually refer to yourself (or does anyone you know refer to themselves) as 'millennials'

Prompted by Tom Ewing:

There is something squicky about hearing young people actually referring to themselves as "millennials"

menials

As a millennial, I start every sentence with "As a millennial...".

I use Millenials when "redditors" isn't demographicaloy inclusive enough for the group of society I'm whining about.

have never used nor heard anyone use this term outside of blogs/articles and i don't like the term anyway

no. no, man. shit, no, man.

http://i.imgur.com/nM3t9Ci.png

There's a woman in my office who is closer in age to my 6-year-old daughter than she is to me.

no. no, man. shit, no, man.

― Heyman (crüt), Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:46 PM (6 months ago)

lol crut

This seems like the right thread for Emily Gould vs. Ed Champion.

Are you pro-Gould? Pro-Ed? Pro-throwing them both in the river?

How could anyone be named Ed or Emily and not be like 50 years old. You cannot call them millennials.

What are they? Steampunks or something?

That's as good an answer as any.

blogger and literary types battle:

"The Middling Millennials are hostile to nonfiction, history, politics, and any topic that is real or remotely challenging. They have been harming the literary clime with their relentless pablum for at least a good year, actively encouraged by hoary outlets like n+1, The Awl, The Nervous Breakdown, The Rumpus, and The Millions, all quietly hoping that this confluence of cheerleading and seductive reductionism will enlarge their cultural influence. While the actual population of Middling Millennials is difficult to measure (MFA vs. NYC, a volume published earlier this year by n+1, was allegedly substantive enough to attract the notice of The New Republic, The New York Times, and other outlets), the quality of the MM arguments are, on the whole, remarkably pauce—with thinking deracinated altogether, swapped with a fawning devotion more at home in a San Diego entrepôt."

http://www.edrants.com/emily-gould-literary-narcissism-and-the-middling-millennials/

http://www.bustle.com/#/articles/29898-ed-champion-vs-emily-gould-reveals-the-ways-sexism-still-permeates-literary-culture

No winners here.

They're both pretty lousy writers, for starters. And both seem to be defined by their need to take a shit on other people, in public, for the sport of it, whether it's deserved or not. On top of that, the Twitter response to their spat showed a pretty ugly misunderstanding of mental health issues. So everyone loses I guess.

http://gawker.com/stop-getting-mad-about-emily-goulds-novel-1598672483

socca's "insider-technical" reply in the comments is gold

scocca's, even

"smartphone zombies" much crisper than "millennials"

wanted to just side against champion on account of his misogynistic unhinged shittiness, but yeah, on further reflection, no winners.

according to the web this Emily Gould was born in October '81. Is that millenial? I thought that was in the in-between.

Wikipedia says the cutoff year is '82, so I guess she's sort of a cusp millennial.

I had forgotten about Emily Gouod after her NYT mag story. I was not a fan of that, so when this thing bubbled up I was sort of cheering for Champion until I actually started to read his thing.

Gould.

I was gonna say, I'm six months older than her and I ain't no millenial

http://i.imgur.com/7ez1TYY.jpg

How could anyone be named Ed or Emily and not be like 50 years old

*serious angry face*

*cat years

Oh shit! I'm so sorry *constantly saying dumb things on the Internet face*

i know many young women named emily. champion seems a clear bigoted scumbag i'm not sure how there's a debate over which is 'worse' here.

If I was born a girl my parents planned to name me emily

My parents planned to name me Carol.

I was happily unfamiliar with Champion before this, but from what I've now read by/about him, he seems like a Guy a With Issues, to put it charitably.

fwiw on this derail, I know a lot of women named emily born in the 80s!

on the other hand, I have a coworker named Phyllis who is around my age and she has to be the only person under the age of 50 I've met with that name

y'all missed http://jordansargent.tumblr.com/post/89585204318/neverforget

I am so media ignorant I could not even begin to define wtf a 'millenial' might be, other than being a lot younger than I am.

"on the other hand, I have a coworker named Phyllis who is around my age and she has to be the only person under the age of 50 I've met with that name"

I'm 30 and I went to school with a girl named Pearl (oddly, I don't think it was her first name; in earlier grades I knew her by another, more common one)

Thanks mookie, and thanks J0rdan for writing it!

lol j0rd 'i am a normal person now'

that would be an ok story if it was movie #5 in a comic book movie franchise

that tumblr post is super OTM.

i don't know much abt e. gould or her writing, i read her i-failed essay, but from bits of the novel quoted in places and just the general memoiryness and her connections to blogging, this stood out all the more when i read it -

http://biblioklept.org/2014/07/03/very-few-people-who-are-supposedly-interested-in-writing-are-interested-in-writing-well-flannery-oconnor/

But there is a wide spread curiosity about writers and how they work, and when a writer talks on this subject, there are always misconceptions and mental rubble for him to clear away before he can even begin to see what he wants to talk about. I am not, of course, as innocent as I look. I know well enough that very few people who are supposedly interested in writing are interested in writing well. They’re interested in publishing something, and if possible in making a “killing.” They are interested in seeing their names at the top of something printed, it matters not what. And they seem to feel that this can be accomplished by learning certain things about working habits and about markets and about what subjects are currently acceptable.

http://disputations.gawker.com/novels-1599711863/all

smh millennials

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-american-apparel-challenger-20140703-story.html

o_O

in other millennial news, we had to explain to the intern yesterday why US citizens can't really go to Cuba. to her credit, she was born after the cold war.

That's not a millennial thing that's just plain ignant.

tbf i only barely understand "why"

Think it's chase they beat us in baseball at the '66 olympics

Batista was our buddy and Castro ousted him and we were all like "oh well, we will resume relations after Castro, that'll be any day now" and that was four decades ago

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKs-x49WwAQbghM.jpg

"It's called weed, gramps." *blows kush in ur face*

there are multiple hip hop djs who refer to "the 'gram" and I feel like it is a thing

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/15/more-firms-allowing-dogs-and-other-pets-in-the-office.html

goldangit no

We've really fucked-over this generation, haven't we?

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/94e97eee-ce9a-11e5-831d-09f7778e7377.html#ixzz40LCSpm7d