Jane Campion - TOP OF THE LAKE

This is dope

do the american actors in this do kiwi accents?

Elizabeth moss does, its pretty good! Meanwhile a nz actor that i recognise does an american accent

Everyone loves jane campion right? She is the best

yeah i totally love her. excited for this.

she's done enough good stuff that I can forgive The Piano.

have been informed that her Keats movie is mad underrated - confirm/deny?

Definitely not underrated from my perception of it...it's justly highly rated as I see it. And so many nominally un-film people that I've known have raved to me about it.

it's amazing. pretty unique!

The BBC annoyingly still haven't announced a premiere date for this even though they co-produced it. They've had a "coming soon" holding thing on their site for almost 6 months. Why would they not go day-and-date with the States in this day and age?

cool thread title. everyone who searches for 'campions' is gonna be richly rewarded

campions, campions, ol, ol, ol

After 2 episodes I'm hooked. Moss, Hunter and Mullan all bring it and GJ is hysterically funny at times.

have been informed that her Keats movie is mad underrated - confirm/deny?

the reviews were excellent, and, yes, it's her best after TPOAL.

underrated in the popular 'hey I saw a great movie recently' discourse - it did seem to go under the radar a bit in the UK

although Davek has directly contradicted that upthread so what do I know

This is great!

<3

yeah this is good

Everyone loves jane campion raymond right?

episode and commercial breaks seem pretty un-TV-ish, just dropped in at the required moments in time.

Dikembe Mutombo commercial insert so sudden that my wife and I briefly thought it was part of the show ("why is he bothering the cops?!?!")

Such a great show. This week's episode, and the scene between Robin and Al in particular, was devastating.

schwantz knows.

really is no one else watching this???

I am still trying to work out how the beeb co-produce a classy joint like this and IT ISN'T EVEN ON THE FUCKING TELLY. Might as well divert my TV license money to the torrent sites you fucks.

Last episode was amazing. Easily the best show on TV right now.

Edge of seat on Johnno non-reveal. Just incredible acting on this show by pretty much everyone (love that Campion got the lead from Sweetie back after all these years too).

so many great scenes in that episode

i've been recording it but haven't watched any of it yet.

I'd suggest waiting till it's done and marathoning it.

MUST WATCH IN HD. I only get Sundance in SD on TV, but it is in HD On-Demand, and it's night and day. Such beautiful photography and scenery.

^good tip, yea id been a lil disappointed w/ it's murkiness in SD

im not over-the-moon on this like the rest of yous, but i do like it

The BBC annoyingly still haven't announced a premiere date for this even though they co-produced it. They've had a "coming soon" holding thing on their site for almost 6 months. Why would they not go day-and-date with the States in this day and age?

― She Got the Shakes, Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:31 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

BBC are infuriatingly enigmatic when to comes to telling you when a show is airing. It's like they want me to pirate their shows

Show feels so out of nowhere to me. The Sundance Channel? New Zealand? Really digging it, though marathoning the first three in a row left me rattled at the end.

The beeb are fucking idiots. It is great is this series and four episodes in, only people who use torrent sites have seen it in the UK.

if enough ppl were watching this i would make this a poll (from wiki p)

Consistent images and themes in series

Dogs
Mounted deer heads
Water
Family
Good versus evil in an "end of the world paradise"[8]
Guilt
Objectification
Parenting
Religion
Violence against women

elizabeth moss is v good in this, im sad the finale is nxt wk apparently

cool thread title. everyone who searches for 'campions' is gonna be richly rewarded

― turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 23 March 2013 00:49 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I still lol at this whenever I scroll past it

now on netflix instant

feel like maybe it needs to say 'police procedural tv show' in the title of the thread, then ilx might be on board

(also could do with an apostrophe)

jesus christ @ the last like 10 mins of this

I called it. Not too early though.

MASSIVE SPOILER

So Al or one of his pedo friends was really the father of Tui's baby, right? The DNA results were just him trying to wrap things up nicely for Robin. They don't spell it out, but that's the obv implication?

Yes.

I could have gone for a little decompression/denouement time after that set of reveals at the end.

yea agreed. it also felt a little cut too fast for me in places throughout, i wonder if they had time problems

I'm also under the impression that it was originally edited in six parts, but was re-edited into seven? Can't seem to confirm that, though.

Are we to assume that Al raped Robin when she was passed out after he drugged her? Or did he think he was being better than that?

I thought she was going to realize what happened when she drank a bottle of vodka and was still somewhat lucid, but had passed out from some wine at Al's.

I was sure before that when she went to the cafe and al was showing off the kids to the visitors.

One thing I wasn't clear on is whether we're meant to take GJ seriously. I found her irritating. It was notable to me how all the women at Paradise whose stories we know anything about were seeking solace from frustrating relationships with emotionally distant men (or, uh, male animals), and the woman they turn to is an emotionally distant peddler of pseudo-profundity who calls them all bitches.

Anyway, I liked the show. Didn't mind the rushed ending, in fact I thought it was pretty exciting, all the more for how it stood out against the pacing of the rest of the show. And it was a reminder that, for better or for worse, I never catch on to mystery plots. Everything clicks into place for me right as its happening on screen or not long before. I both do and do not envy the sort of viewer who puts it all together in advance.

agree ^ the whole paradise subplot was unsatisfying though I love Holly Hunter and am obsessed by cults. but the scene where Matt (aka Willie Nelson's evil twin) charges the gates of paradise was priceless. totally pumped for the second season.

i actually really liked the rush of the ending as well. i found it a total buzz. i felt like we were discovering the secrets at the pace Elizabeth Moss's character was, i thought it was very effective. although i hadn't guessed the denouement in advance either so i guess it hinges on that.

One thing I wasn't clear on is whether we're meant to take GJ seriously.

What I took from the series is that the explicitly female-dominated space (Paradise) and the male-dominated one (Peter Mullan's house/drug compound) are both corrupt, albeit in completely different ways and to different levels - an expression of skepticism on Campion's part towards militant or isolationist feminism, or perhaps just to the notion that matriarchal power is/would be inherently "pure" or virtuous. (The fact that GJ is styled around Campion herself adds a level of levity to the commentary imo.)

There's going to be a second season?

Yup! http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/top-of-the-lake-season-2-starts-shooting-this-year-elisabeth-moss-returns-20150723

Wasn't expecting a second season. I'll happily watch it, but it will be an entirely different show if it's not set there. (Plus the title will make no sense, but w/e.)

I guess it can be like CSI. Top of the Lake: Sydney

people really thought GJ / paradise was that bad, huh? weird

would happily watch moss in this role again tbh

huh, that's a surprise.

ive just watched this show over the last two days and i absolutely loved it. weird vibe to it with amazing performances and i liked the feminist slant to the story. BBC really dropped the ball in not giving this a bigger push.

i didnt mind the ending either tho it was obvious. as someone said upthread blindsiding rugpulls are forced and fake anyway.

“Nicole Kidman is reteaming with her Portrait of a Lady director, Jane Campion, for the second season of thriller Top of the Lake,” reports Deadline‘s Nancy Tartaglione. “Kidman’s participation has been the subject of on-and-off rumors, with the BBC confirming the casting today as the actress arrived in Sydney to begin filming with series star Elisabeth Moss.”

http://deadline.com/2016/06/nicole-kidman-confirmed-top-of-the-lake-season-two-jane-campion-elisabeth-moss-bbc-sundance-hulu-1201771609/

hmm. I could do without Kidman tbh.

otm

The Portrait of a Lady was an excellent performance, so...

Fairly easy to act like a portrait

ho ha hee

Hmmm this has started off reallllll clumsy

Top of the lake 2 obv

Our lead character and perf still great tho

ahhhhh didn't realize this was back!

haven't watched it yet, but this is the first time my license fee is presenting something to me, before it is on the torrent sites.

Wish we could just see the aftermath of robin without a big crime story background.

Fuck me, Gwendoline Christie is a very bad actress. Like, embarrassing. I guess it doesn't matter a fuck in a pseudo medieval dragons thing but it does here. Really.

I just finished watching season 1. I kind of liked the meandering nature but the Broadchurch-worthy cliches weren't good (let's go after the resident paedo first until he has an alibi). Anyone who's ever watched Neighbours knows what it means when a mother really doesn't want her daughter dating a particular boy.
Who were the peeping toms videoing Robin and Johnno on their phone (who had video evidence of Tui)? What was the point of that pathologist guy? Why can I never identify Lucy Lawless in anything?

I forget tbh.

Campion seems like a real misanthrope y/n?

who isn't these days

New season is rubbish

Men = evil creeps
Women = victims

That was totally a feature of season one!

It's clumsy alright. But so was season one!

Ok just saw that scene in episode three and I'm out. This is just fuckin preposterous

Enhhhh, I haven't seen s2 yet, but I think one of the key features of s1 was how the "male" space (the family drug compound) and the "female" space (Holly Hunter's commune) were in clear opposition but both pretty fucked up places with damaged people inhabiting them. xp

Aye deems. So stupid. I'm done

Yeah but the spaces in between were clumsily drawn and the characterisations were forgivably misanthropic but unforgivably lazy and it's all coming back to me now and if you last beyond episode three of the new one then you're seeking punishment imo

Xpost Simon H doing the job of explaining why S1 was better

I don't really buy Campion-as-misanthrope either (again having not seen s2 yet), I can't reconcile that with Bright Star for instance

Using TOTL as evidence.

Don't remember a single likeable character in it.

Certainly is nobody in the new one.

Wow, this is garbage. I'm on episode four and wondering if I should go on since I'm intrigued, not about the stupid plot with ridiculous-on-ridiculous coincidences but rather ia'm intrigued by how bad this work can get. This may be the worst thing by a well regarded filmmaker I've seen and I've seen late Wim Wenders' films.

Yep.

https://www.theringer.com/tv/2017/9/10/16281488/top-of-the-lake-china-girl-jane-campion-interview

This is, without a doubt, the worst and stupidest thing I've ever watched & by a considerable distance. Honestly, I could write 2000 words minimum about how bad this is but what would be the point? Actuallly I might because it's hysterical how bad this is. You think that the wheelchair attack with the the choking and the curtain-fire in episode three was beyond the pal? That's nothing compared to the set up where the main geeky guy who loves cinnamon has, somehow, buried himself in the sand and, somehow, placed an empty beer box over his head lying in wait for the cops to arrive ( I know , it doesn't make any sense) then shoots the big lass ( I know , it doesn't make any sense) - She ends up in a coma but it's never mentioned again then some other stuff happens and.... I don't have a clue.

Worst TV show ever made.

For what it's worth, we don't find out what happened to cinnamon, they just ignore that, for some reason.

Oi no spoilers

jk nobody is finishing this

wow, I've never seen something so roundly slagged and hated. Will avoid. I liked Season 1, kind of.

I really liked season one even tho parts annoyed me it was haunting and compelling etc

But this oh my

i will still prob try this tbh but my main chick joyce carol oates is also down on it on twitter

@JoyceCarolOates Greatly admire Jane Campion's work but we were baffled by atrocious script & acting, overwrought plot, silly "comic relief" of new Top/Lake

@JoyceCarolOates Wondering how many viewers winced as we did at the ungainly, unfunny, insulting (?) comedy hinging upon an awkward rookie female officer

@JoyceCarolOates First season of "Top of the Lake strained credulity at times but one cared about the characters, to a degree. New season, no. Have given up

i'm amazed by how many positive reviews it's had. this is otm:

http://www.theartsdesk.com/tv/top-lake-china-girl-bbc-two-series-finale-review-torpor-not-trauma

julie swetnick? justice kavanaughty? jesus christ