Jonathan Winters R.I.P.

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my hero. :(

scott seward, Friday, 12 April 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

he definitely needs his own memorial thread. this world gets less cool with every passing day...

scott seward, Friday, 12 April 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

RIP. absolutely awesome dude

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 April 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

"I dress for the cityfolk"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zrhnMUhKzI

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 April 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

whoah @ artwork?!

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 April 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

only really know him from mad mad mad mad world, but that's reason enough to mourn his passing :-(

http://keithandthemovies.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/mad-mad.jpg

Ward Fowler, Friday, 12 April 2013 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

his art was awesome! very trippy. check it out online.

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scott seward, Friday, 12 April 2013 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

he was more or less overtaken by schizophrenia starting sometime in the 80s, right? I feel like ppl who only know him from TV appearances of the last 30 or so years don't realize he was a genius

brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Friday, 12 April 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

i remember LPs in my dad's collection that were super awesome

brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Friday, 12 April 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

i once had a long late night conversation with the english newspaper strip artist syd jordan, who turned out to be a massive jonathan winters fan (bit of a rarity in the uk!).

as i guessed, mark evanier has some good stuff abt winters, inc. a little more on his cartooning skills:

http://www.newsfromme.com/2013/04/12/jonathan-winters-r-i-p/

Ward Fowler, Friday, 12 April 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

he had a couple breakdowns in the '60s, talked about being institutionalized on one of his LPs.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 April 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, he had troubles. i can never fathom how people with their own struggles like that can be so productive and brilliant for so long. i have one bad day and i want to hide under the bed. amazing.

scott seward, Friday, 12 April 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

Onstage and off, Mr. Winters was wildly unpredictable. He struggled with bipolar disorder and nervous breakdowns. One of the most damaging episodes came in 1959, when he was reported to have climbed the mast of a moored historic ship in San Francisco while drunk and naked and was subsequently transported to a sanatorium.

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 April 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

oh right. Bipolar. I was misremembering.

brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Friday, 12 April 2013 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

did not know he was the voice of Papa Smurf

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 April 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

He has a little sparkle in his eye that always reminded me of my grandfather.

RIP, a very, very funny man.

He has a lot of baggage (handlers' perks) (Michael White), Friday, 12 April 2013 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

I'm pretty sure that Robin Williams thought the world of him.

He has a lot of baggage (handlers' perks) (Michael White), Friday, 12 April 2013 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

so glad there's a dedicated thread. he was a treasure and a half, v sad over his passing

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 April 2013 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Maron's remembrance on interviewing him: http://www.xojane.com/entertainment/jonathan-winters-biography

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 12 April 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

I'm pretty sure that Robin Williams thought the world of him.

Oh, definitely. I remember an old profile of Williams on 60 Minutes that specifically included Winters precisely because the two were so close.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 April 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

Did anyone else spend a year or two in the 90s watching DAVIS RULES?

da croupier, Friday, 12 April 2013 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

No idea if it was actually good, but I definitely enjoyed this as a kid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_Rules

da croupier, Friday, 12 April 2013 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

I totally remember watching that with my dad, and pretty much only because of Winters

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 April 2013 23:32 (eleven years ago) link

Mark Evanier's repository of showbiz anecdotes is a treasure trove. Here's another one, posted a few minutes ago.
http://www.newsfromme.com/2013/04/13/todays-video-link-1382/

The Complete Afterbirth of the Cool (WilliamC), Saturday, 13 April 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

well, that sounds like Berle...

HuffPost has a headline identifying JW as "'Mork and Mindy' Star." :p (I would tune into that last season to see if he and Williams would ever be allowed to cut loose, and it seldom happened.)

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 April 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

A Madman, but Angelic
By ROBIN WILLIAMS

My father’s laughter introduced me to the comedy of Jonathan Winters. My dad was a sweet man, but not an easy laugh. We were watching Jack Paar on “The Tonight Show” on our black-and-white television, and on came Jonathan in a pith helmet.

“Who are you?” Paar asked.

“I’m a great white hunter,” Jonathan said in an effete voice. “I hunt mainly squirrels.”

“How do you do that?”

“I aim for their little nuts.”

My dad and I lost it. Seeing my father laugh like that made me think, “Who is this guy and what’s he on?”

A short time later, Jonathan was on Paar again. This time Jack handed him a stick, and what happened next was extraordinary. Jon did a four-minute freestyle riff in which that stick became a fishing rod, a spear, a giant beetle antenna, even Bing Crosby’s golf club complete with song. Each transformation was a cameo with characters and sound effects. He was performing comedic alchemy. The world was his laboratory. I was hooked.

Not only was Jonathan funny on TV, his comedy albums are auditory bliss. One of my favorite routines involved a mad scientist who sounded like Boris Karloff. But instead of creating a Frankenstein, he made thousands of little men that he unleashed on the world. His shocked assistant cried out, “What are they looking for?”

The professor replied, “Little women, you fool.”

He also created comic characters like Maude Frickert and the overgrown child Chester Honeyhugger. In one classic pre-P.C.-era routine, he had Maude being molested by a huge farmhand. She protested, “Stop, I’m church people.” After he had his way, he was off to do his chores, and she called out, “Don’t be long.”

Mort Sahl said Jonathan was seen as a great improviser, but to him he was just being himself. He was a rebel without a pause, whether he was portraying the WASP who couldn’t get a decent martini in Mombasa or the cowboy who couldn’t ride a horse and backed out of frame. Jonathan’s wife, Eileen, maybe had the best quote. She said that Jonathan went through his terrible 2’s but that they lasted 20 years.

In 1981, my sitcom “Mork & Mindy” was about to enter its fourth and final season. The show had run its course and we wanted to go out swinging. The producers suggested hiring Jonathan to play my son, who ages backward. That woke me out of a two-year slump. The cavalry was on the way.

Jonathan’s improvs on “Mork & Mindy” were legendary. People on the Paramount lot would pack the soundstage on the nights we filmed him. He once did a World War I parody in which he portrayed upper-class English generals, Cockney infantrymen, a Scottish sergeant no one could understand and a Zulu who was in the wrong war. The bit went on so long that all three cameras ran out of film. Sometimes I would join in, but I felt like a kazoo player sitting in with Coltrane.

On one of his first days on the show, a young man asked Jonathan how to get into show business. He said: “You know how movie studios have a front gate? You get a Camaro with a steel grill, drive it through the gate, and once you’re on the lot, you’re in showbiz.”

No audience was too small for Jonathan. I once saw him do a hissing cat for a lone beagle.

His comedy sometimes had an edge. Once, at a gun show, Jon was looking at antique pistols and a man asked if he was a gun proponent. He said: “No, I prefer grenades. They’re more effective”.

Earlier in his life, he had a breakdown and spent some time in a mental institution. He joked that the head doctor told him: “You can get out of here. All you need is 57 keys.” He also hinted that Eileen wanted him to stay there at least until Christmas because he made great ornaments.

Even in his later years, he exorcised his demons in public. His car had handicap plates. He once parked in a blue lane and a woman approached him and said, “You don’t look handicapped to me.”

Jonathan said, “Madam, can you see inside my mind?”

If you wanted a visual representation of Jonathan’s mind, you’d have to go to his house. It is awe-inspiring. There are his paintings (a combination of Miró and Navajo); baseball memorabilia; Civil War pistols and swords; model airplanes, trains, and tin trucks from the ’20s; miniature cowboys and Indians; and toys of all kinds.

We shared a love of painted military miniatures. He once sent me four tiny Napoleonic hookers in various states of undress with a note that read, “For zee troops!”

But the toys were a manifestation of a dark time in his life. Jonathan was a Marine who fought in the Pacific in World War II. When he came home from the war, he went to his old bedroom and discovered that his prized tin trucks were gone.

He asked his mother what she did with his stuff.

“I gave them to the mission,” she said.

“Why did you do that?”

“I didn’t think you were coming back,” she replied.

Jonathan has shuffled off this mortal coil. So here’s to Jonny Winters, the cherubic madman with a stick who touched so many. Damn, am I going to miss you!

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

thanks for posting that, Morbs

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

any recommendations for his best albums? Spotify has Cranky Calls, The Underground Tapes, A Very Special Time, Ringtones, Final Approach and The Wonderful World of Jonathan Winters

HOOSTEENA/The Steens of God (some dude), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

Dennis Perrin, w/ a nice clip from The Loved One:

Winters confessed that he wasn't fond of post-ironic, Letterman-esque humor. The dumbest things were considered humorous. ("They make jokes about blank walls — 'See that wall? Isn't it funny?'" he said to Nelson.) Joy and imaginative abandon were missing.

http://splitsider.com/2013/04/there-will-never-be-another-jonathan-winters/

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

I stumbled on this just now, it's a treat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfTgzZb-VVs

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 September 2013 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

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