"American Pie 2": Classic or CLASSIC?

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I saw this on Thursday (thank you Entertainment Weekly for pre-screenings!). I'm still laughing. #1 at the box office this weekend... AND IT SO DESERVERED IT. You'd think the best gags would have been spoiled by the commercials, but THEY'RE NOT.

Dan Perry, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong.

DUD DUD DUD DUD AND DUD. dead-end jokes that were wholly based around mentioning jokes from the last movie ('remember that thing on the internet?' [pause for laughter] 'stifler's mom!' [pause for laughter] 'band camp!' [pause for laughter]); shannon elizabeth's non- acting; the waste of chris klein's goofy talent (i think he's quite a good actor actually); the messenger bags that rested under tara reid's eyes, which makeup i guess hoped would be ignored thanks to her jeans' exposure of her hip bones; tara reid's attempts at 'acting'; that whole stupid phone sex subplot; etc, etc, etc. it was totally a movie, but really, was it worth the amount of money ($0) i paid to see it? i don't think so.

and don't forget the soundtrack, featuring all the crappy alt-rock of today, and, inexplicably, the lead track from the afghan whigs' '1965.'

alyson hannigan's scenes were the only bits of life in it. and maybe jason biggs gets points for deep-throating a doorknob. BUT THAT IS IT.

maura, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maura, I am astonished that it has taken a thread about AMERICAN PIE 2 to raise you from the dead.

Nick, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maura, delighted as I am by your return, I must protest: the entire scene with the "lesbian couple" was beyond classic. Plus the champagne. And you've already covered the band camp sections, which were a good third of the movie.

It wasn't so much resting on jokes from the ols one as it was building history off of the old one. It certainly wasn't "Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me", where they took the exact same movie and added a midget and a bunch of shit-eating scene.

Dan Perry, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

AP2 replaced Liz Hurley w.someone who doesn't actually scrape the skin off the front of yr face when you gaze on her

Plus "BBC7" = gratest song evah written (or wuz that in AP1?)

mark s, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm all for nostalgia. I like old jokes if they're funny. Jason Biggs is my nerd hero, especially for pulling off the short shorts.

Tara Reid was barely in the movie long enough to stink up the joint. Alyson...ah...

David Raposa, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

AP2 replaced Liz Hurley w.someone who doesn't actually scrape the skin off the front of yr face when you gaze on her

...debatable, I find Heather Graham frighteningly unattractive in a Stepford Wife/creepy ass Cupie doll sort of way. Plus, she somehow managed to give a worse performance than Liz Hurley - how, I have no clue; she should get a special award for it.

AP2 = worst film ever made.

Plus "BBC7" = gratest song evah written (or wuz that in AP1?)

It was in AP1, which had an all around better soundtrack: I Touch Myself, Carnival, Mas Que Nada, BBC, Incence and Peppermints, The Female of the Species, The Look of Love...AP2 just had a so-so Madonna track.

Ally, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

but old jokes need to be JOKES, not just repetitions of the punchline!

or otherwise you'd have people walking around looking at each other and saying, 'oh, i'm a frayed knot!'

p.s. hi there, everyone. thanks for the welcome back, although really, i never left, i've just been lurky.

maura, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

but old jokes need to be JOKES, not just repetitions of the punchline!

I thought that was the entire basis of the All Your Base phenomenon though.

Ally, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

they eat bananas = they are monkeys

Nick, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

> but old jokes need to be JOKES, not just repetitions of the punchline!

I thought that was the entire basis of the All Your Base phenomenon though.

A-ha! See, I LUUUUUUUUUUUUUVED the "All Your Base" thing. I've had to forcibly excise "What you say!!!" from my vocablary because people were starting to think I was really, really stupid.

Dan Perry, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

All Your Base is a really good song, I don't know why people have to laugh at it.

Heather Graham wasn't in AP2, what are you talking about, Ally? Mena Suvari? She is nasty. Natasha Lyonne didn't look very good in this one either. Tara Reid, who only looks good in so much makeup you can hardly see her face, and Shannon Elizabeth both looked way better than they did in the first. American Pie 2 was the perfect sequel: just enough referencing of the first (it was one of the defining moments of my generation, of course you're gonna reference the hell out of it); it never strayed from its successful formula (new gags often better than old, e.g. Stifler getting pissed on and later bragging about it); Chris Klein and Suvari, who really suck, were hardly used; Sean Michael Scott, the best actor of our generation, was milked for all he was worth, and basically made the movie.

Otis Wheeler, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oops, I wasn't listening, you were talking about Austin Powers, weren't you. Heather Graham was way cute back in her Twin Peaks days.

Otis Wheeler, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Would people stop talking shit about Mena? For the luvva Christ.

And if you're going to talk about Stifler, at least spell his name right. SEANN William Scott. Sweet!

David Raposa, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dude. Otis. You need to lay off the Red Sox and get out of the house. You're getting all confused and shit. You should come down for Adi's birthday party, we'll smack some sense into your boring unentertaining non-singing ass.

Anyhow, Mena Suvari isn't that bad. She's much less nasty than, say, Molly Ringwald.

Ally, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Seann William Scott is one hot, forward-thinking motherfucker. Two count 'em two dude-on-dude makeout sessions and a positive, uplifting feelgood anal probe scene. Revolutionary! I worship him!

Arthur, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

AP1 = letting go of social expectations re: sex. AP2 = letting go of *own* expectations re: sex. The point is to both underline and undermine the lessons of the first. Hence many of the gags remain. Stifler's character was given mildly too much screen time, and the phone-sex subplot, though providing a few laffs, could have died a quiet death except then Oz would have been out of the picture, which is the real shame -- he was the standout of the first film, but he's got *true love* so where are the situation comedic possibilities? Either he or the gf. should have strayed and then dealt with the fallout, resolving w/ them staying together.

Conclusion? Uh, I laughted lots, but it didn't stick with me.

Sterling Clover, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, and above the AP stands for American Pie, not Austin Powers

Speaking of which, the second AP was better, except for Fat Bastard, than the first, precisely because it kept the same gags but pushed them, inverting them and thus at once surprising and achiving recognition-shock.

Sterling Clover, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This sounds a lot more like real teenage life than a lot of films. "Do you remember that time..." is basically a good way of clarifying (ugh - word that people use at work to try and be clever) your collective frame of reference and passing the time until you think of new jokes. I'm listening to Meatloaf.

Greg, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ah yes, "This one time... at a party" = best damn gag of the whole film.

Sterling Clover, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
Thread revival. I watched this last night for the oh...23rd time. Hilarious. The whole "Petey" scene kills me. Classic, classic, classic.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 15:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought it was very funny. Some things probably not-as-funny-to-anyone-else-as-they-were-to-me (the whole "Sherminator"/Shannon Elizabeth screaming "Fuck me, nerd!" thing), but that Sean William Scott is a bold funny man, no diggity.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 15:14 (twenty-three years ago)

The Stiffmeister makes the whole film. The lesbian scene kills me too, "Ass! Grab some ass!"

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 15:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Worst film evah for me!

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 15:23 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
Revive coz i just saw American Wedding and loved every moment of it.

I had a great day today -- paycheck, enabling me to pay bills, rent, buy toothpaste, steak and single malt scotch. steak was as good as i've ever made -- perfect combo of garlic, cloves, soy, pepper in a london broil. scotch was absurdly cheap. good easy project at work. house is clean.

Then i rented this movie and yeah lets talk about it -- the whole bachelor party bit was a slight letdown at the end, but pitchperfect farce for an absurdly long time (esp. the unrated version) and the stifler thing was cranked up too much at first but paid off bigtime at the end and the sweetness was wistfully pitchperfect except i thought "wait the characters in the movie are as old as i am and they're getting married! i'm going to die alone!" but squelched that thought quick.

I just wish Alyson Hannigan had gotten way more screentime and comedic work than she did and the wedding cake scene was sorta gratuitous.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 14 February 2004 04:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Would I enjoy or not enjoy watching Alyson Hannigan getting married? Hmm.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 14 February 2004 04:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Also Eugene Levy vs. Harold Willard = Guaranteed comic genius.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 14 February 2004 07:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Fred Willard that is (as Harold Flaherty)

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 14 February 2004 07:02 (twenty-two years ago)

something about the forced sweetness and vulgar comedy of these films makes me feel nothing less than nihilistic despair.

ryan (ryan), Saturday, 14 February 2004 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

oh and the opening scene with levy as the straightman was k-classic, and also the assless chaps!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 14 February 2004 07:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i have to admit assless chaps are always funny

ryan (ryan), Saturday, 14 February 2004 07:10 (twenty-two years ago)

this was seriously the worst movie i've ever seen. and that is even after seeing My Boss' daughter the week before.

(actually, they are both horrible)

JaXoN (JasonD), Sunday, 15 February 2004 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm talking about american wedding

JaXoN (JasonD), Sunday, 15 February 2004 03:41 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...
assless chaps!

adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

assless, chaps!

adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate these movies.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

me too.

adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

seven years pass...

It never ends!

http://gawker.com/5849553/american-reunion-oh-that-old-joke-again

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 October 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

On May 18, 2011, a casting call went out for the character "Kara", a role that involved "upper frontal nudity".[27] New England Patriots wide receiver Chad Ochocinco has a cameo.[28][29]

congrats Ochocinco on your cameo as Kara

do not wake the dragon (DJP), Thursday, 13 October 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

congratulations Perry on your classic movie to anticipate.

rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

I never saw American Wedding, I realize

do not wake the dragon (DJP), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

Wedding won a lot of goodwill by opening with an amazing ten minutes of unrestrained stiflerism, and for being generally affectionate enough about its characters that it thought seeing Biggs and Hannigan getting married would be a sweet premise to build a trilogy-conclusion around. But it pisses huge amounts of that away with a terrible bachelor party scene that plainly exists for no reason other than to get a whole load of tits on screen for the trailers*; and by suddenly panicking that it hadn’t included any gross-out stuff and, at the wedding itself, having a) the characters regress five years in order that Jim can be goaded into shaving his pubes – by a window, in the middle of the day, so that the trimmings fly out and stick to the cake – and b) Stifler eat a bunch of dogshit.

If they’d skipped those and included a subplot about any travails or nervousness or problems Hannigan’s character went through in the leadup to the wedding, I’d remember it warmly.

*unpleasant, fake, hard tits, belonging to Iain Ziering’s wife. The “uncut” home video version apparently just had more tit-screen-acreage.

front-man for British post-punk turned pop chart-topper’s, Scritti Polliti (sic), Thursday, 13 October 2011 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

oh, and January Jones plays Hannigan's teenage sister, who bones Stifler while he still has dogshit in his teeth, possibly.

front-man for British post-punk turned pop chart-topper’s, Scritti Polliti (sic), Thursday, 13 October 2011 23:03 (fourteen years ago)

so it's not exactly Lubitsch then?

Number None, Thursday, 13 October 2011 23:42 (fourteen years ago)

i hate these movies.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, October 13, 2004 4:22 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark

some dude, Friday, 14 October 2011 00:32 (fourteen years ago)

nine years pass...

On May 18, 2011, a casting call went out for the character "Kara", a role that involved "upper frontal nudity".[27] New England Patriots wide receiver Chad Ochocinco has a cameo.[28][29]

congrats Ochocinco on your cameo as Kara

― do not wake the dragon (DJP), Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:53 PM bookmarkflaglink

Neanderthal, Monday, 26 October 2020 16:40 (five years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1LMphcLjUE

We Have Never Been In Precise Modern Lovers Order (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 October 2022 13:27 (three years ago)


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