Does the RS Tsarnaev cover piss you off?

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130717062056-rolling-stone-tsarnaev-story-top-or-smaller-story-top.jpg

http://www.morethings.com/images/charlie_manson/charles-manson-rolling-stone-cover.jpg

yes

least of all because I get Syd Barrett vibes which FUCK YOU ROLLING STONE FOREVER

i was going to say, made him look like one of those crazy folk heroes

Poll options?

when I had only read about it and not seen it, no ... now that I see it, yeah kinda

I thought he had more of a young Strokes drummer vibe

Explosions at the Boston Marathon

newest anco member THE BOMBER

who the fuck is rolling stone's audience anyways? teenage girls who are obsessed with classic rock?

that would be a cool demographic, but my guess is no

as for the cover, i can't say it pisses me off necessarily but i do find it rather tasteless.

rolling stone publishes stupid shitty cover, i can't believe it, what a shock for this reputable magazine of high quality journalism

well michelle bachmann is a worthless piece of shit, but that doesnt mean i can't get pissed when she does something stupid

it's not rs's fault he's so cute

I wonder if people got mad after the Manson cover in 1970? Charlie looks as much of a rock star of his era as Tsarnaev does now.

I'm kind of starting to think Tsarnaev is becoming a bit of a romantic mad rebel Manson figure for lost kids now.

tbf the manson cover doesnt make him look like a dude you want to cuddle

He's much better looking than Manson. They are different though, in that Dzokhar seems to have been roped into this by his brother, at least according to the dominant narrative, and so isnt really a mastermind or diabolical figure... More of a victim, or casualty, of vague cultural forces. Thats the image i see projected in that cover anyway.

what exactly are they supposed to do to this guy's appearance to demonize him again?

I dont think they "should" do anything.

draw angry eyebrows on him

give him harelip and droopy eye

make his eyes glow red and shoot lasers

It sure does have folks talking!

http://www.fair.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/theweek1.jpg

yeah that one is actually way worse altho for different reasons

waaaaay worse

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPVeH-rCIAEoGdc.jpg:large

context of cover of the rolling stone is pretty different than NYT though - dr hook never sang about NYT for one thing

Maybe, maybe not. RS cover calls him a "monster," NYT refers to a "dark side."

I know why people are upset over this but at the same time I kinda resent the idea that we're supposed to equate being a mass murderer with looking "threatening" or unattractive. Is this really necessarily a glamorous photo?

Don't really see this differently to any of the other fucked-up teenager features RS has covered over the years.

Syd wasn't even on Dark Side, shows you what NYT knows.

syd was way cuter too

Dreamy <3 <3 <3

http://www.sydbarrett.net/images/74-Now/bikebarrett.jpg

Dzhokar Tsarnaev
HOT
READY
LEGAL

nyt putting the selfie above the fold was seriously jarring and hard to process.

Looking forward to

Tamerian Tsarnaev
He's Hot
He's Sexy
He's Dead

https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe/status/357541839961718784

‏@DennisThePerrin
Calm down, Internet. Rolling Stone has featured many terrorists on its cover -- Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Bob Hope.

this controversy is stupid

I look at both of those RS covers up there and I see Jim Morrison.

I think his appearance, and who he seemd to be from what we can glean from his online persona, is a legit part of the story so using the selfie in the NYT and RS does have a logic to it.

The Manson one actually seems like a much more concerted effort to present him as a rock star/mad prophet... but then I guess Manson made a much more concerted effort at that himself.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18lqvlgrtm5p2gif/k-bigpic.gif

Can we get a site-wide script to automatically replace any Dennis Perrin tweets with a comical fart noise?

xp From that thing Max wrote about Dzhokar Tsarnaev fangirls.

If a bunch of midwestern teenage girls jump on the religious extremism bandwagon, all the religious extremist bros will decide it's passe = everyone wins.

The young Tsarnaev family looking like a Diane Arbus photo.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/feature/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2013/04/2013-04-22T154536Z_01_MAK05_RTRIDSP_3_USA-EXPLOSIONS-BOSTON-SHOOTING_image_1024w.jpg

http://sprocketink.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/tsarnaev-family-photos1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cmAhgbQ.png

Spekaing of innocense

there's also the fact that embracing tsarnaev is a totally efficient way to get attention and piss off your parents, which will sell t-shirts as long as 15-year-olds walk the earth

haha parents are the worst

they just don't understand

The flurry of anti-RS cover pieces probably doing more to glamorize him as rebel celebrity than the original RS cover.

wow, I just realized where the cover for the first Black Grape album came from

http://hipsterrunoff.com/

trips me out that there's still a hipsterrunoff

he updates it like once every two months. i think it's run its course but am still happy whenever he writes something new.

What did I tell you about hipsters Treeship

;-)

as hoos pointed out, my name is an anagram for E-Hipster

wow, I just realized where the cover for the first Black Grape album came from

― frogbs, Thursday, July 18, 2013 3:41 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this, but for the SLA logo / Turbonegro 'Apocalypse Dudes'

as hoos pointed out, my name is an anagram for E-Hipster

that, and Shit Peer.

my name is Anagrams for FaceWater

I guess I was being a little challopsy itt, partly to figure out the issue.

you guys are all fucking hipsters

I'm a virgin

SLA logo / Turbonegro 'Apocalypse Dudes'

and Trance Syndicate Records

tbh manson in that photo looks like he'd fit in well with the beach boys during their decadent 'beards' phase.

He lived with dennis wilson iirc

i live in southern california. i know, i'll grow a huge beard.

I thought u lived in maine?

the rolling stone cover photo of tsarnaev glamorizes violence, anyway check out these super sweet tactical photos of a bloodied dzokhar tsarnaev with laser sights trained on his body

I thought u lived in maine?

― Treeship, Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:28 PM (3 hours ago)

i do! that was imaginary wilson-manson dialog.

elm otm

the rolling stone cover that makes him look like a pop star is too loaded with metaphoric weight, so here's one that looks like Catholic martyrdom iconography

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/audio/video/2013/7/18/1374188391045/Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev-boat-001.jpg

RIYL Atta

it doesn't look a thing like Willie Nelson!

the cop who leaked the photos got fired!

relieved, not fired.

ET's Patty Hearst cover really brings home the idea that, for better or worse, no new line has been crossed here. In the context of 1974, that cover looks to be about as rock-star glamorous as you can get.

Dzokhar's selfie isn't nearly as threatening/powerful as SLA Patty anyway, but it fits with the innocuousness of Rolling Stone's piece.

Related book... Some terrific photos in here

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51RBJ3407XL.jpg

so here's one that looks like Catholic martyrdom iconography

yeah there's this

there's also the idea that the proper antidote to the RS cover's soft treatment is a mainline dose of hyper-real technologically-aided state violence

I was wondering why it took so long for Baader-Meinhof to show up on this thread

More shit-for-brains rock and rollers:

http://www.tshirtgrill.com/products/2EE5CCF2343F41C8BE9D594FAB21F765.jpg

what rocker is that even?

St. Joseph of Strummer

oh wow. he looks pretty young there. that must have been roughly contemporaneous to their era of activity then, huh?

Indeed. Well done, Joe.

xpost to elmo, yeah I'm sure that's what the cop thought the image suggested - I just think that particular image is at least as problematic as the RS cover...

In fact if that boat shot had been the RS cover, they would have got heat for making him look like a martyr from the same people who got mad about the cuddly cover

I think everyone just wishes this kid did not exist - which is pretty understandable

If anything, we're soon going to be bombarded with pictures of him in standard orange prison colors.

that's looking fabulous in standard orange prison colours to you

It's just going to end in this

http://www.nachtkabarett.com/ihvh/img/mm_flier_red_ramirez_pentagram_1994.jpg

there was some [imo] good discussion about this on real time friday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV5Wqqf5MqY

haha the Jaws line

RS editors have just become so innured to glam shots for the cover that they didn't stop and think wtf they were doing.

lol @ rolling stone leaking it was almost a kanye cover, full knowledge that it would prompt alot of ppl to go 'on second thought maybe that bomber cover's not so bad'.

didn't make it past "that's the *POINT* of the story. sometimes, THE DEVIL. LOOKS. CUTE." he's like penis disease.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/01/news/companies/rolling-stone-boston-bomber/index.html?iid=HP_River

No surprise--still worth debating, I think.

Bob Dylan is doing a great Tsarnaev on the cover of the new rolling stone this month

Maybe they got the wrong Zimmerman mixed up.