Carry on Cleo, you slut

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in my women in classical antquity class i pitched a paper on sexual represntations of cleopatra post 1500, as an example of assuming womens politcal power is sexual, and discounting her in that way. So help me out, any reps from b/w Shakespeare and Liz Taylor people want to big up.

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Same thing has been made out w/Elizabeth I, but not Margaret Thatcher as I recall. I don't know, maybe in a maledominated political arena women SHOULD use their sexuality as an easy/effective tool?

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

but cleo didnt, i mean she only slept with the men she married- commited suicde as a question of honour and not sex, really did the job of men.

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

haha isn't this the argument that just broke out abt JOHN MAJOR!!

(dr vick pointed out to me that m.thatcher persistently gave advancement to MALE FLIRTS hurrah!!)

(well not hurrah exactly but you see what i mean)

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Urgent and Key - Asterix and Cleopatra!

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah... sorry, I'm thinking of how she's been represented. I did mean that a woman (in a position of political power) could, should she CHOOSE to, use her sexuality to help her deal w/males in that area, but no this isn't really of any use. ARGH did M. Thatcher really do this? Aiee!

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

people, my homework is more important then silly poltical debates. Everyone knows englishman have runny spunk anyhow.

― anthony (anthony), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Catherine the Great (Russian woman) has a bit of a reputation.

What's the alternative to runny spunk? Chunky spunk? Eeuugh.

― toraneko (toraneko), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

also ow

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

From what I understand Cleopatra was rubbish, and it was under her power that Eygpt's final dynasty fell.
Nearly all female Pharoah's are represented this way, bar Hatchesput (sp?. It was spelt differently to the Melys song in the source I read) who kicked ass and possibly Nefertiti, who may or may not have been pharoah after her husband died, noone knows because records of that era were destroyed as much as possible

― Sofa King Alternative (Sofa King Alternative), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

i hoped this was about miss cleo. :(

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

it ain't over yet jess

― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

She gets to fawn over Caesar in the Shaw play, but that's really about Julius, another of GBS's great men.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

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