List of völkisch platitudes invoked by David Cameron to pretend it's still 1907

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that has invented most of the things worth inventing, 4
'Britain is an island 4
some of the most effective diplomats, 3
including every sport currently played around the world, 2
the fourth best-funded military, 2
that helped to abolish slavery, 2
'Britain is an island 2
a bigger heart 2
the proudest history, 1
that has helped to clear the European continent of fascism 1
one of the best records for art and literature 1
but I would challenge anyone to find a country with a prouder history, 1
'We are very proud of everything we do as a small island 1
a small island that has the sixth-largest economy 0
and music that delights the entire world. 0
that still today is responsible for art, literature 0
'Britain may be a small island, 0
and was resolute in doing that throughout World War Two. 0
or greater resilience. 0
and contribution to philosophy and world civilisation. 0


гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

We are very proud of everything we do as a small island

ninth largest island in the world

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

helped to abolish slavery is some breathtaking chutzpah

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

did he say THE proudest history? dear fuck

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

An enlarged heart isn't something to be proud of iirc

StanM, Friday, 6 September 2013 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

An enlarged heart isn't something to be proud of iirc

We are the fatsos of Europe after all

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

that has helped to clear the European continent of fascism

so many ifs and buts but i feel sure that had the British government not been so hostile to the Soviet Union and its beastly politics in the 1930s a treaty cd probably have been arrived at that would have squished the Hitler state at its first territorial aggression

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

so david cameron is the prime minister of the uk? sounds like a tough job.

乒乓, Friday, 6 September 2013 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

feel like he can probably stick his music that delights the world right up his arse

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.sikhdharma.org/files/images/Bhupinder%20/Lt.Gen.Bhupinder-Singh-Belgium-april-1915..jpg

I like to mix it up, I like to do stuff

Matt DC, Friday, 6 September 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

that still today is responsible for art, literature

Sounds like an indictment

Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

and so modest and unassuming with it

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

if by "prouder history" he means "fucked up more countries/indigenous peoples" he cd be on to something

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

Is this Cameron attempting to head Boris off at the (khyber) pass?

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

helped to abolish slavery is some breathtaking chutzpah

― ... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:39 (13 minutes ago)

these things are unfortunate, but what the revisionist won't tell you is the the united kingdom was the most prolific slave trading nation of the 18th century with consistently high year on year growth and a light regulatory framework that was the envy of the world

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

The Zong massacre was the killing of approximately 142 enslaved Africans by the crew of the slave ship Zong in the days following 29 November 1781.[note 1] The Zong was owned by a Liverpool slave-trading syndicate that had taken out insurance on the lives of the slaves. When the ship ran low on water following navigational mistakes, the crew threw some of the slaves into the sea to drown. The owners of the Zong made a claim to their insurers for the loss of the slaves. When the insurers refused to pay, the resulting court cases held that in some circumstances the deliberate killing of slaves was legal, and that insurers could be required to pay for the slaves' deaths.

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

I maintain that the impact on thousands of jobs in the whip-making industry was not adequately considered.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 September 2013 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

Slaves and drug dealing - two of Britain's greatest money spinners

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

And as soon as they abolished slavery they replaced it with indentured labour.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

or "Welfare to Work" as it was known at the time

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

sort of tired of reiterating the ills of the national past but when officers of state are reheating this rose tinted shit for global consumption then it needs to be done

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

not to invoke some sort of ilm style proudest history trading card dogshit but to invalidate the notion of any national history being proud

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

Thing is this sort of Scrappy Doo bullshit gives a lot of voters a massive boner, especially when attempting to smack down a country as obviously shitty as Putin's Russia.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 September 2013 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

dmac's line about it either being all blood-money, or none (clue: it's all)

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

possibly the history of all nations is partly the history of the peoples that got stomped in order for the nation to form itself

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

iceland probably has quite a proud & egalitarian history if you're not a whale. those vikings were awful rowdy tho

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

yeah maybe, i guess in cases where there was nobody to exclude/eradicate things cd be more chill

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

You can quibble about many of these but the fourth best-funded military is kind of hilarious yet utterly contemptible

that has invented most of the things worth inventing ??!!

Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

Most countries' histories are annals of misdeeds dressed in self-pity and self-regard

Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

i want to avoid the "we're all as bad as one another" thing tho because clearly some nations have been considerably more impressive forces for misery and destruction than others

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

bring back lbzc for this banner day

incredible stuff from cameron

his LIPS !!! (darraghmac), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

Jews in the flesh materialized as Jewish refugees from Nazi Germany in the 1930s. Most of the refugees moved on to other countries, and some were even expelled or deported. In the postwar period, Jews living in Iceland remained an isolated group. They quickly realized that most Icelanders showed no concern about the sufferings some of them had undergone during WW II. Members of the prewar Icelandic Nazi Party became high-ranking officials, war criminals found safe haven in Iceland, and an odd, social-democratic politician even engaged in publishing an anti-Semitic journal along with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in Icelandic. Possibly because of anti-Semitic sentiments, some Jews in Iceland tried to conceal their Jewish background altogether. At present, the small Icelandic Jewish community keeps a low profile amid rising anti-Semitism centered on the Middle East.

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

i want to avoid the "we're all as bad as one another" thing tho because clearly some nations have been considerably more impressive forces for misery and destruction than others

― iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague)

efficiency is all

his LIPS !!! (darraghmac), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

dmac's line about it either being all blood-money, or none (clue: it's all)

― ... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago),

wasn't this........about football

his LIPS !!! (darraghmac), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

football is as close to a perfect microcosm of international relations as has been invented (by the british)

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

i can't decide which you're worse at tbph but agreed

his LIPS !!! (darraghmac), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe Cam should just have gone "say hi to that pussy Arshavin" and left it at that.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 September 2013 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

the fourth best-funded military is kind of hilarious yet utterly contemptible yeah cuz by prefacing it with 'sixth largest economy' he seems to be happy with spending a disproportionately high amount of gdp on fighter planes

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

Aw "small island" that's so cute. Sort of reminds me of the "sleeping giant" rhetoric you get in the US from time to time. (moar like sleepwalking giant with violent night terrors, amirite?)

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

i thought the Mongols invented football?

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

the 'fourth best-funded military' one is hitting me really hard, in a 'doesn't it matter if we all die' kinda way

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

"and we need that big army cos we've got a lot of enemies around the world from all those nations that we've done so much to help"

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

Noodle, I think different generations may claim to be part of a national narrative but they're really just winging it and some of them really are worse than others but there's a very good chance that at some point, past, present or future, your 'nation' will be conspicuously nasty.

Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

"the 'fourth best-funded military' one is hitting me really hard, in a 'doesn't it matter if we all die' kinda way"

note how carefully he avoids any claim as to the actual effectiveness of this crack force that we chased all the way back to dublin with a few pitchforks and two unloaded revolvers as far back as 1921

his LIPS !!! (darraghmac), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

I suppose Putin could retaliate by pointing out Russia's sterling work in ending gulags as well.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 September 2013 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

also, what makes a diplomat effective? lugubriousness?

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

fourth best-funded military cracks me up because it's like saying you can't win the league but only three other clubs have a bigger payroll. Back during the Gulf War, they'd at least mouth off about the value of British discipline despite not having all the American gadgets or whatever...

Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

Holding out for a Cassette Boy treatment of this speech by the way.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 September 2013 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

tbf the US army outscores us on crazed massacres of local civilians out there too

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

yeah not really

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

ya but the yanks never inflicted cricket on anyone

his LIPS !!! (darraghmac), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8737197.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/immigration-pa.jpg

"Britain may be a small island, but I would challenge anyone to find a country with a prouder history, a bigger heart"

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

i was thinking of the current oil-control operations in central Asia

i'm gonna call a score draw on illegal use of torture tho

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

all this on the day england fuck up some slavs 7-0. fear us, russia

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

In the heart of Britain
The big heart of England
Lee Coopers [en effuse/on a fuse]
The Birmingham School of Business School

'Understand, your daughter's addiction is not your problem' (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

all this on the day england fuck up some slavs 7-0. fear us, russia

― ... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 16:23 (3 minutes ago)

moldova is less than a quarter slavic by population

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

nilmar you must give me the minutest credit due for slipping into 'a certain' register

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

moldova is largely romanian/greek iirc, but CLOSE ENOUGH to commieland amirite

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

trenchant social fuckwittedness

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

the empire always took good inventories of those it was about to annihilate so i shan't have the aspersion of ignorance cast upon the national project

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

that's a good point, in fact. pedantry being one of the endearing facets of colonialism

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

"According to a 2011 WHO report, Moldova consumed the highest amount of alcohol per capita in the world in 2005"

Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

673 Hottentots were summarily Shot to Death under the command of Cllr. James Efferidge of the 9th Battalion, after it was Alleged that One had Offended a Lady

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

that massacre got a respectable 8.7/10 on www.hottentot.com

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

hottentotornot.com shurely?

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

....

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

hottentotatoes.com

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

That's the thing, though. Cameron doesn't have the steely pedantry of a real baby-killing colonialist, but the pathetic vague fecklessness of the bystanding Richard Hammond

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

...hence, when Walcott slides the fourth goal past Vlad Kutyakokov, he'll probably chew an After Eight with that little bit of extra vindictive contentment

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

this isn't the greatest thread in the world honestly

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

it's the best a scrappy little island can do

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 September 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.familyholiday.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Caribbean-Islands-Holidays-Anguilla_22.jpg

I used to have this map on my wall as a kid. I suppose many others did? Just kind of depressing that it didn't even seem strange.

I have gathered no gaudy flowers of speech in other men's gardens (dowd), Friday, 6 September 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, and fourth best-funded navy ftw.

I have gathered no gaudy flowers of speech in other men's gardens (dowd), Friday, 6 September 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

Military, sorry.

I have gathered no gaudy flowers of speech in other men's gardens (dowd), Friday, 6 September 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

how old are you? i don't imagine it was too common

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

I'm about 33. I think it came out of a newspaper - most of those kind of things stuck to my wall did.

I have gathered no gaudy flowers of speech in other men's gardens (dowd), Friday, 6 September 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

telegraph or mail?

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 6 September 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

My Dad was (is?) a Telegraph reader. And the Sunday Post, lol. But it was one of those things relatives would do, save up a 4 part poster with pictures of birds on it and give them to you.

I have gathered no gaudy flowers of speech in other men's gardens (dowd), Friday, 6 September 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

that has invented most of the things worth inventing ??!!

Well I suppose Scotland is British... for now

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 6 September 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

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System, Monday, 23 September 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

I love the idea of trying to rouse popular passions by citing the effectiveness of your diplomats.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 23 September 2013 01:21 (eleven years ago) link

voted for 'britain is an island'

bleedin dubs buy sam maguire, september 2013 (darraghmac), Monday, 23 September 2013 09:38 (eleven years ago) link

voted for diplomats because it's the closest option to shopkeepers

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Monday, 23 September 2013 10:29 (eleven years ago) link

Easy when you're number one
Everybody say you're having fun
Smiling for the public eye
When your body say you want to die
Living on an island
Looking at another line
Waiting for my friend to come
And we'll get high

Hugh he got a real nice place
Cruxie gonna be there soon
And I just want to see his face
I'm getting lonely in my empty room
Living on an island
Working at another line
Waiting for my friend to come
And we'll get high

Passing time away in blue skies
Thinking of the smile in her eyes
Easy, it's easy

Living on an island
Oh boy, we're having fun
Living on an island
Thinking 'bout the things I've done
Living on an island
Searching for an other line
Waiting for my friend to come
And we'll get high
Waiting for my friend to come
And we'll get high
I said we're gonna get high
Yeah, we're gonna get high
We're gonna touch the sky
Sky...sky...sky...sky...sky...sky...

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 September 2013 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

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System, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link


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