i hate my father

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do you have a father? does he love you? does he show it? does he take you places? imagine living your whole life without your father...imagine living your whole life with your father comming in and out of your life constantly (especially around fathers day) and making you cry everytime you came home... my father is a heartless bastard straight from hell!! i hate him so much it makes me sick. but what i hate more than him is the factr that i love him and he hates me and has no intrest of being apart of my life. i did ne thing for him, all i ever wanted was too be loved by him. do you know how a person feels wen they think "damn, my own father cant even love me, what the hell is wrong with me??" i had to beg my father to take me to the daddy daughter ball. and wen we were there he wouldnt even dance with me i looked around at all the othre little girls and their daddies all dancing and laughing and having a great time while my dad is checking his watch. i hate him. he will never know my kids he wil not come to my wedding (i am 14yrs old) and i will neevr allow him into my life again!

michelle, Thursday, 3 October 2002 02:59 (twenty-three years ago)

he doesn't love you because you're not fat.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 October 2002 03:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I suspected there was some sort of causal link between the two

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 3 October 2002 03:33 (twenty-three years ago)

dont bother with hate, be indifferent. it takes less energy

donna (donna), Thursday, 3 October 2002 03:35 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, hate is just another way of wanting attention. indifference is what REALLY gets people.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 October 2002 03:37 (twenty-three years ago)

dont bother with hate, be indifferent. it takes less energy

donna, you seem nice, but that's just about the worst advice ever.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 3 October 2002 03:37 (twenty-three years ago)

why thank you mark ...i do try

donna (donna), Thursday, 3 October 2002 03:45 (twenty-three years ago)

well my father doesn't love me and I think Donna is OTM

rainy (rainy), Thursday, 3 October 2002 03:55 (twenty-three years ago)

there's not a word for how strongly i detest my father- loathe, hate, despise all fall short. he was verbally and physically abusive, never worked, gave me nothing but a negative example- end self disclosure now.

i'm with rainy and donna, up to a point. its near impossible for people to get over someone who disregards what our society appoints as a fundemental obligation. but i've learned the hard way that you're much better off investing your energy in yourself. trite as it sounds living well is the best revenge.

mike (ro)bott, Thursday, 3 October 2002 04:04 (twenty-three years ago)

The Daddy Daughter Ball???????!!!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 3 October 2002 04:16 (twenty-three years ago)

HELP IT'S AN INTERWEB PERVERT

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 October 2002 04:18 (twenty-three years ago)

thing is you see, hating your father makes you do stupid things in order to piss him off. well, it did with me because my silly head would say "oh he hates that? do it.......or oh he expects that? do the opposite"
end result? a life of strange paths and turnings, culminating in the eventual realisation that i would be far better off using my energy to do things that brought me happiness.
phew.!!!!!!
i think its called growing up.

donna (donna), Thursday, 3 October 2002 05:11 (twenty-three years ago)

"i had to beg my father to take me to the daddy daughter ball. and wen we were there he wouldnt even dance with me i looked around at all the othre little girls and their daddies all dancing and laughing and having a great time while my dad is checking his watch."

Haha.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 3 October 2002 05:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Aw.

geeta (geeta), Thursday, 3 October 2002 05:25 (twenty-three years ago)

The Daddy Daughter Ball?

I always thought this was a "wacky" sitcom contrivance and not actually real. You know, like Mike Seaver promised he would take Carol, only to remember he has other crucial plans that day! Hijinks ensue.

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 3 October 2002 11:44 (twenty-three years ago)

i think its called growing up.

i think it's called denial.

donna, to me what you're advising is that the person stop trying, not stop hating. which obviously makes more sense.

i'm not saying that indifference isn't ultimately preferred to outright hatred: i i'm saying that it's *really* problematic to assume that a human being can actively re-direct pangs of hatred or disgust into indifference and remain emotionally healthy.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 3 October 2002 11:56 (twenty-three years ago)

i mean, would you recommend "indifference" to someone who was hopelessly, head-over-heels in love with someone who didn't reciprocate that feeling?

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 3 October 2002 12:02 (twenty-three years ago)

haha yes. trust me on this one. it works wonders.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 October 2002 14:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, I'm with Jess on this -- it's a letting go, surely.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 October 2002 14:43 (twenty-three years ago)

no you cant make yourself feel indifferent if you feel hatred or love, you feel what you feel. but it is surely more productive to attempt to turn your mind elsewhere, to stop concentrating on the person who causes you pain and instead look at yourself and what you can do to be happier.
actually i was being flippant, but also talking from experience ( see thread about giving up on yr family ).
it is about letting go, i agree, and also about growing up as you discover that only you are in charge of your own happiness. once you give that power to someone else you become even more lost.

donna (donna), Thursday, 3 October 2002 17:46 (twenty-three years ago)

pah. i've grown indifferent to this thread, so i guess you're right.

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 4 October 2002 01:34 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
i hate my father and he pretends 2 like me i hate him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Travis Kingston, Saturday, 20 December 2003 03:46 (twenty-two years ago)

wow, i'm kinda embarrassed about year-ago me.

mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 20 December 2003 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

What a mean thread.

Prude (Prude), Saturday, 20 December 2003 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I had a major falling out with my father this year and we have become entirely estranged. We do not communicate at all. He does not know -- nor will he, if I have anything to say about it -- that my wife is pregnant.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 20 December 2003 05:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, father.. you cheated on my mom and became an alcoholic when I was in middle school, and then you got divorced. And I stopped talking to you from tenth grade until eleventh, and now you want me to go with you to my aunt's house for Christmas when I haven't talked to her in yeaaaaaars. You're also just vaguely creepy.

Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 20 December 2003 05:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I had a major falling out with my father this year and we have become entirely estranged. We do not communicate at all. He does not know -- nor will he, if I have anything to say about it -- that my wife is pregnant.

What if yer dad reads ILX?

ModJ (ModJ), Saturday, 20 December 2003 05:25 (twenty-two years ago)

haha what a grea tthread

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 20 December 2003 06:45 (twenty-two years ago)

What if yer dad reads ILX?

Then let me take this opportunity to demand an apology right now, or we got nothing to talk about ever again.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 20 December 2003 06:51 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
I thought I was a daddys girl, then he went out to Ohio from Washington State to work, my mom stayed here and took care of all of us, even though she got fired from her job, her mom died and my 1/2 brother (my dad's teenage son) was here with us. We all grew close, my dad came hom every other weekend for my brothers football games then my brother graduated from high school and my mom and me decided it was time to move with daddy, we started planning, my mom lost weight, looks great, has a great attitude because allthe crap like her mom having alzheimers is behind her. then she got phone calls telling her that daddy was having a girlfriend. daddy told her oh you know me better than that. then they kept hppening. he came home at thanksgiving and was here for 3 days but when my mom took him out to her mom and dads grave he told her he didnt want tot be married anymore to her. they only got married 4 years ago. me and my 4 (there are 5 all togethr) were there in our back yard. he got fired from his job too. for lac of trust. he had a good job.
i hate him he lied, he never gave us a chance/ this woamn he is with has no kids at homeand no responsiblties. she is a wawitress in the bar he alwsys was in. he thinkshe is moving out htis way with her.
i dont wnat him to. she will never be able to meet me. he made my brother and sister meet her. even though they didnt want to.
my counselor told me i dont have to. he is sick and my mom i s the prettiest and nicest mom in the world. she did everything for him.
so i hope she will find a nice person that doesnt cheat on her.
i hate my dad i am 11 yers old and this should not be happening at htis time in my life.
thanks for listening.
my mom said i could write like this, and maybe get some support.
sam

Samantha Barker, Friday, 9 January 2004 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

best country song ever.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Congratulations Alex.

Dad in NYC, Friday, 9 January 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

i used to hate my dad, until i found someone even worse to hate. that seems to have taken care of the "dad" issue.

Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Im better off without him.

el, Monday, 19 January 2004 01:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm done with mine. He tries to suck up to me by talking about stuff I like, but in my mind, I have the feeling that this is just some fake crap. Let my brother have him... they are better off together. I have a better bond with my mom than dad. I move out in a couple years, so therefore, he will not get my address as he has pissed me off so far that I want nothing to do with him nemore.

mjwinop, Friday, 23 January 2004 05:34 (twenty-two years ago)

i actually really like my dad now, all that 'indifference' paid off and we get along well!
i can even say i love him, and not feel false :-)
surprising what a bit of time can do.

donna (donna), Friday, 23 January 2004 05:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm Sorry!!!!! I hope someday it can be resolved!!!!!

Nicole Rose Sarabia, Monday, 26 January 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
My father passed on his sense of humor but he didn't teach us to be proud. He didn't work seadily so we didn't learn (from him) to get up and go to work daily -- no matter what. since he didn't go to work daily, he doesn't know what it's like to have to pay attention to details, to speak clearly and not mumble, he doesn't know how to give compliments and he is not supportive financially or emotionally to my mother I think, it must be so frustrating to have taken care of him when he could work and now to have to take care of him that she's retired and he can't work. She has to drive him to all of his medical appointments. Just once I'm sure she'd like to have hime return the facor. He's such a parasite.

holis beamer, Sunday, 15 February 2004 08:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I hope my father is getting raped in prison.

Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Sunday, 15 February 2004 10:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Wel, I am stuck living with my dad, and I think there should be a word somewhere between hate and indifference that I feel for him. I feel like Harry H Corbett in Steptoe & Son - dispising his dad, but unable to leave because his morals get the better of him.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Sunday, 15 February 2004 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate my father too. Imagine putting your father on a pedastal your whole life to find out the whole time he was sitting in prison because he brutally beat an elderly lady to death in hopes to rob her of her every last poseiion. Imagine the fact that her mother was right there and watched her child die right in front of her. That is my worst fear as a mother.
At this point in my life I have learned that you either dwell on the negative or move on to the more positive things in your life. If you live in the unhappiness that you feel you are supposed to live in that is all you will ever be. However, if you dicede that you do not want to live in the same manner as your father (who has left such a nasty impression on your life)in your own way you are slapping the asshole in the face because you are everything that he wished he could be.

Miss Beezwaxz, Sunday, 22 February 2004 08:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm glad I have a good dad.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Spoiled brat!!!

Franco De Vita (Francis Watlington), Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I've got two, they're both alright.

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 22 February 2004 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

And before anyone else does...

http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/0785/dads.gif

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 22 February 2004 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

My dad's fine.

I don't see him too often though.

Aja (aja), Sunday, 22 February 2004 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

If my dad had a mullet like those guys I'd hate him.

Bryan (Bryan), Sunday, 22 February 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

DO NOT SPEAK ILL OF THE REISER.

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 22 February 2004 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

So the person I speak the most kindly about is my grandma?

Aja (aja), Sunday, 22 February 2004 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey Michelle,
I thought my dad and sister loved me and then on my sister's birthday they told me I'm a nuisance and they wish they didn't have to deal with me and they've been trying to tell me this for years. In other words, I know how you feel.
His physically and verbally abusing him is his problem, not yours. But'd I report it...cause you shouldn't have to put up with it. GOOD LUCK!!

natashina lushina, Sunday, 22 February 2004 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
poor michelle, and poor ME too. we're not asking for sympathy, just a little attention...POSITIVE attention, and maybe a little sign of love. i can never forgive my father, and he will never see me again when i'm 18, or maybe sooner since he wants me to kill myself so much. i have never really been loved, and he cussed out the one person that I love, and loves me back, last night (my boyfriend). if he's hitting you at all in fits of rage(which are often), dont be like me and wait until its too late to tell anyone. he'll brake you beforeyou can get help(emotionally).

Erin, Sunday, 7 March 2004 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

my dad? well there is not to much good to say...the man has 2 children my brother and me, he worked very hard at makin our lives as miserable as possible. he never cared.. we never asked him for life, he put us on this earth and he feels that it gives him the right to abuse us...i will never forgive him...my children will not see him...he will die a lonely man.. with his new pathetic family

thanks for nothing DAD...you taught me one thing though, that is i will be the exact opposite of you with my children...i know what love is...you never will

LISA MORALES, Monday, 8 March 2004 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)

these are good lyrics.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

my dad's great!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i have a sneaking suspicion lisa is actually the guy from korn

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:33 (twenty-two years ago)

"there should be a word somewhere between hate and indifference that I feel for him"

How about 'contempt'?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)

"ebuillience"

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)

do you have a father?

Yes. His name is Kevin.

does he love you?

I think so.

does he show it?

Not really, no. But that's okay.

does he take you places?

No.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)

mr. morales has a new family. a new and BETTER family!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:37 (twenty-two years ago)

i can joke about this because my father is a bastard

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)

hey what can i say thats my dad...kilian thanks for saying my dad has a new and better family...thats messed up..but hey you like being mean thats cool..

LISA MORALES, Monday, 8 March 2004 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

no i am not from korn...just some girl that has put up with a cruel father for a long time..but thanks for liking my words

LISA MORALES, Monday, 8 March 2004 01:53 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry lisa i wz drunk. doesn't excuse it though. apologies.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 8 March 2004 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)

wow, your all really nice (and im not being sarcastic, either)! maybe all the hate put upon us has driven us to love. i wonder how this same hate will affect us, now or possibly in the future. you know, like we may grow up to be strippers, or serial killers, or some of us may even be same sex oriented (i myself am a 14 year old bi-sexual). I would really like to know how you guys are holding up. hang in there guys! and Lisa, you ARE pretty deep like Jonathon Davis (KoRn)

eRIN, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks erin!!! i do try to be nice.. listen being an asshole to people requires alot more work and effort than being nice to someone.. that i learned from my dear old dad..afterall he is the leader of the assholes..el numero uno.

also you were talking about your future being affected by our dads, in my opinion its more the reason to get out there and do the best you can..it will only piss off our wonderful fathers more....

LISA MORALES, Thursday, 11 March 2004 05:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"...I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE WALL! ...I'LL BREAK YOUR ARM! ...I'LL KNOCK YOU INTO NEXT TUESDAY! ...I'LL KNOCK YER TEETH DOWN YER THROAT! ...SIT DOWN BEFORE I KNOCK YOU DOWN! ..SHUT YER MOUTH BEFORE I SLAP IT SHUT! ..THE ONLY WAY YER LEAVIN' THIS HOUSE IS TO JOIN THE ARMY OR KICK MY ASS!... "

love you too dad. sam said it best, I hope you slide under a gas truck and taste your own blood.

not a chance, he may find me, Saturday, 13 March 2004 08:29 (twenty-two years ago)

boy that sounds familiar!! i was just thinking...how some people dont even know where their fathers are and tell people like us how they envy us. i myself wish my father had a drug or drinking problem, because THAT and ONLY that would give him an excuse, right? why does he only accept perfection in me? what about my brother? if only he knew my brother's "activities," maybe he wouldnt be that hard on me.

*good advice, Lisa! and your very welcome!!

*"not a chance, he may find me," DO NOT join the army unless it is your dream/passion. dont let him break you into another person!!

eRIN, Monday, 15 March 2004 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

My dad tried to kill me.
I hate the fuck stain a lot. He deserves to have pineapples shoved green part first up his arse everyday in hell.
Thats all my bitching done.

Premium, Sunday, 28 March 2004 08:24 (twenty-two years ago)

That's a great insult! May I steal it?

Prude (Prude), Sunday, 28 March 2004 09:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I have never hated anyone in my entire life...untill i found out the truth about why i had no dad...

I not so bad cos i never seen him before, only in photos. only contact was through a few letters sent back and forth to his prison cell. I actually hate him for what he put my mum and another family through whilest she was pregnant with me...she nearly commited suicide...thank god for my brother who was 3 at the time, kept my mum going.

I'm 18 now and moved out of my house to be with bf but i so scared something bad will happen to my future family. Oh well i keep a dad for my children and shove it in his face! (not literally cos i wont be seeing him anyway)but his sister will keep him informed on my life.

wow i feel better now...

XxSarahxX

Hoodowa, Thursday, 1 April 2004 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

my dad is a fuckin self absorbed maniplitive spitefull controlling bully and i hate him, hes put me through hell and i have tryed so many times in my life to distance myself, but still i feel guilt cause hes all alone in his sad pathetic life. someone please tell me how fucked up i am.

sarez, Saturday, 3 April 2004 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I loved my father. There was never a time when I hated him. There were however times when I strongly disliked him or felt a little embarrassed about him. I think my feelings towards him began to change somewhat after I went to university. Mayvbe by the time I reached sixth form age he had lost some of the hero staus he had when I was small child and even when i was a young teenager, but I still appreciated his opinions, his guidance, his sense of humour and the choices he made (and had made) in his life. This began to diminish somewhat subsequently....I bagn to view some of his views as somewhat illiberal and reactionary and occasionally curse the way he had (by nature or nurture) passed on his cautious, non risk-taking ways to me. But maybe this is quite a commonplace, natural change of view towards a parent at that particular stage in a person's life.

But I never hated him, because I knew that, even when I strongly disagreed with him, I could sense that he loved me and cared for me and had my best interests at heart no matter how greatly we disagreed on the detail. In the latter years as he began more unwell I became more and more sorry that we couldn't go out and do stuff together and how he was unable to visit me in Oxford and so it would always be me chatting to him, about increasingly mundane things it seemed, increasingly just in his own living room. But he was a top bloke and I endeavour not to labour too much about the run-ins we did have, because they shouldn't be allowed to taint all the *good* memories.

MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 4 April 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

You all suck balls.

dtrututu, Sunday, 4 April 2004 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

i hate my father!!!! fuck him!!!

Joanna Mae Brady, Friday, 9 April 2004 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

you gotta wander what people are typing into google to find this thread....

Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Friday, 9 April 2004 11:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Sometimes the simple answer is the correct one.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 9 April 2004 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

well, yeah, there's that, but what causes someone in an upset emotional state to type an articulation of this state into a major internet search engine?

Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Friday, 9 April 2004 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Being 14?

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 9 April 2004 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

yea hey guys i kno exactly how ya feel my dad is a 2 faced ass hole who is gonna burn in hll for all the shit he has put me and my mother through. he pretends the worlds jus screwed him over when hes the one screwin himself over he treats me like shit. And to all of you all of those bastard fathers out there will get thiers when they die so dont u worry

Shannon Vercelloni, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)

i dont speak to my dad or his so called damm family

Emma williams (Emma williams), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 01:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, mt father is quite the opposite, i know he loves me and sometimes he does bend over backwards but he still is a bastard who is thick, self centrered and traps me in my house like a farmyard animal. He naggs me, lectures me for at leadt 1 hour a day about being good, doing my homework and all the shit. I hate it, i hate him, he is a stubborn arab with a stupid view of life. I fell scared that i will adapt the same style of thinking without even realising it. To proce it, out of the 5 other families we have in this country, only one has kept in contact with him, no one likes him. Oh yeah and if evry second word wasnt abbusive, i would give him everything i had.

whiteninja62, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread makes me really sad.

Nellie (nellskies), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...
I don't want to proof read this, I just want to vent. I can't say that my father did all he could to be a good father. Whenever a parent is not responsibe, the kid grows up feeling in n the way" and having to compensate for his short comings. I can see it in his face, He physically seak now and has to depend on others to prepare his meals, take him on outings, and he can only move around in a wheel chair. He still smokes!
I see him as a burden and he sees himself as a burden. During the storm "IVAN", he chose to stay home while the rest of the family took shelter--I dodn't won't to be responsible for his depression, silent death wish. Depression--who doesn't have depression. But, we still get up a do what must be done to eat, live to survive. He is a physical and emotional burden. I pray for the end of this feeling of hate in my heart for him. Our family is oknormal but could be much better if he had been a better man/person. He wasn't a support for my mother. He slept while she worked. I guess it was too clod for him to get out of bed. The nut doest not fall far from the tree--after realizing my personality faults, I'm trying, daily to my changes/improvements. I hate that my Mother is expected to take care of him--recently, she said "I believe he would do better if he had to take care of himself" i said, "I expect a change soon" My Sister heard it and understood.

hollis beamer, Friday, 17 September 2004 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I have fallen out with my dad and I think we should fall back in but he's in paris. he's 40 this week, too.

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

bluddy hell, he must've been young when he fathered you!

MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

you're old enough to be my dad.

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

my dad is relatively young too. we don't speak. it's better that way.

mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Cozen, no I'm not!

MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't speak to my dad for about 10 years. We're sorted now and have a nice relationship. It's so good not to feel that hurt and rage anymore.

Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry mark, it's a glasgow meme.

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

my dad's out drinking somewhere in glasgow

nick.K (nick.K), Sunday, 19 September 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

at spektrum / tv on the radio optimo?

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 19 September 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha, I wish. He's on a bender.

nick.K (nick.K), Sunday, 19 September 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
cozen i hope you and Alex are doin OK vis a vis this, and that no pineapples were involved

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:04 (twenty years ago)


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