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it is essentially terrible. let's not even get into bleacher report.

i think grantland is actually really good, but can we agree that bill simmons is a shitty person? can we make that happen?

it's fucking hard coming up with an interesting take on the sports world again and again for weeks and years on end. inevitably, there is rank trolling and inexplicable terribleness.

(living in dc years ago i was able to witness michael wilbon's devolution into 'guy who mentions jordan no matter the context.' you should have seen his annual hockey columns.)

but that's no excuse for some shit.

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

rick fucking reilly stands athwart history yelling stop: [Removed Illegal Link].

the last two paragraphs, in particular, are priceless

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

oops http://es.pn/154hm4x

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:37 (eleven years ago) link

nfl writer notices that a head coach's brother died, writes this (courtesy j0rd):

When I noticed earlier today that the younger brother of Giants coach Tom Coughlin recently had died, I added the item to the list of stories to get posted at some point in the near future.

When I noticed tonight the circumstances, the story shot to the top of the stack.

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:38 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think bill simmons is actually a bad person. i think he is an ok person who i often disagree with.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:39 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think bill simmons, maybe, is on purpose a bad person. and i don't care about the nba or boston, so i may be biased. but i found this pretty damning.

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:43 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i get that but i thought his take on girls and his podcast w/lena dunham were smart and perceptive and sympathetic. basically he's smarter, in an unschooled way, than the character he's occasionally portrayed himself as.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:48 (eleven years ago) link

but to the thread's point, he's been a mostly good nba writer, a mostly bad everything else writer, and isn't one of the top 20 problems with sportswriting

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:48 (eleven years ago) link

i appreciate that he may have evolved, and like i said, i think grantland is largely very good.

and i totally appreciate the fact that he, more than really any other single person (weirdly), is responsible for the shift from 'beholden beat writers quoting truisms' to a view that a fan can actually relate to.

i also appreciate that he would never, for any number of valid reasons, have written rick reilly's column.

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:56 (eleven years ago) link

anyway, 'let us discuss the top 20 problems with sportswriting' is what i should have said in the op

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:57 (eleven years ago) link

the main problem with sportswriting is that most sportswriters aren't very bright.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:58 (eleven years ago) link

or are they so bright they just blew your mind?

surely trolling/generating 'controversy' is a huge part of it

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 September 2013 03:02 (eleven years ago) link

they're horrible at trolling though!

or i mean maybe they're ok at trolling the general population but who would want to be known for that

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 September 2013 03:03 (eleven years ago) link

skip bayless?

espn? How ESPN Pulled A Bullshit Colin Kaepernick Story Out Of Thin Air

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 September 2013 03:12 (eleven years ago) link

that espn thing was pretty fucked up.

skip is barely worth a comment.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 September 2013 03:19 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

top story on espn all day: Silent Mode: Lynch snubs SB reporters

mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 03:57 (ten years ago) link

this is basically the slowest week in sports iirc

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 04:09 (ten years ago) link

It's awful. Close second: sports radio. I listened to sports radio during my 4 hour commute home today. I can't even believe how bad it is. Topic # 1 was Marshawn lynch at press say. Who gives a fuck?

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 04:22 (ten years ago) link

Press day

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 04:22 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

LeBron on Cabrera deal: 'Wow'

mookieproof, Saturday, 29 March 2014 03:56 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

not to defend bleacher report, but that guy was a sucker

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 01:22 (ten years ago) link

Agreed in both counts. Good article but the dude got taken to the cleaners.

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 02:43 (ten years ago) link

Has anyone had a mightier fall than King Kaufman?

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 02:44 (ten years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/bcnyERE.jpg

mookieproof, Thursday, 24 July 2014 01:01 (ten years ago) link

I hope to god that was a joke.

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Thursday, 24 July 2014 02:03 (ten years ago) link

nope, merely a hot take

mookieproof, Thursday, 24 July 2014 02:33 (ten years ago) link

stephen a. smith covering himself in glory today

mookieproof, Friday, 25 July 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link

nope, merely a hot take

― mookieproof, Wednesday, July 23, 2014 10:33 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That take was so hot im fucking sunburned. Piping hot.

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Friday, 25 July 2014 19:45 (ten years ago) link

stephen a. smith covering himself in glory today

― mookieproof, Friday, July 25, 2014 2:17 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Beadle absolutely nuked him on Twitter. http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/michelle-beadle-calls-out-first-take-for-ray-rice-segment.html

There is precedence in ESPN history for a suspension...........of Beadle. If i remember correctly, Simmons got put on the shelf for calling the Stephen A./Bayless show a piece of shit.

If that happens, i will never watch ESPN again.

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Friday, 25 July 2014 19:46 (ten years ago) link

I should say i only watch ESPN now when a sporting event is on. Nothing else, except maybe 30 for 30.

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Friday, 25 July 2014 19:47 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...
two months pass...

Well done, ESPN.

TAKING SIDES: HUMANS VS. GUACAMOLEEE (Leee), Saturday, 22 November 2014 01:16 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7-9Q3bIMAAVRgv.png

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link

sheman otm

Spottie, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link

SHERMAN

Spottie, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

dang

#wegonnabechampionship (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 00:49 (nine years ago) link

i feel like the inevitable revival of deflategate takes is gonna provide some quality mockery/hateread material for this thread

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link

havent seen anything yet but it's gotta only be a matter of time. simmdog has to be typing fuckin furiously about this

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link

i'm dying at this one:

During the investigation and answering questions from the media, Brady denied tampering with footballs or having any knowledge of those who did. However, he declined to make his text messages and emails available to NFL investigators.

Why, Tom?

Why?

You know why.

I know why.

The NFL knows why.

Because Brady cheated, that’s why.

Just like A-Rod.

Just like Barry Bonds.

Just like Lance Armstrong.

Another one of our nation’s most beloved sports heroes – a true Patriot – has flushed his integrity down the toilet.

Bye, bye, Mr. American Pie.

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 7 May 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link

the "Why, Tom?" part is the killer

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 7 May 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link

Tom "AP" Brady

http://i.imgur.com/ey3cI9g.png

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 May 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEbc2npVAAA5kY4.jpg:medium

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 7 May 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link

ugh slothrop, I shoulda recognized the Bye Bye Mr. American Pie one. that's our local columnist Mike Bianchi, who has been an embarrassment for as long as I can remember because he's held the post since I was a child.

I used to write him emails frequently to complain about his most recent horrible analogy, his penchant for hyperbole, or his reactionary writing style (as evidenced with the example above). He's famous mostly for hopping on whatever bandwagon issue crops up and taking a personal stand that often greatly exceeds the scope of whatever the transgression was to begin with.

fucking hate that guy.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link

the column he wrote the day after Earnhardt died was insufferable. He even had a special modified avatar of his face added to the column, which was usually adorned with his cheesy smiling face....only this time he used a deliberately concocted "sad" face instead. one that wouldn't have been believed in children's theatre, mind you.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link

i think Jemele Hill is the only person from our local paper who went on to have a solid career.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link

i haven't subscribed since i was a kid (i'm part of the problem), but they still had some good writers online at least

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

jon bois's end-of-decade retrospective is good

https://www.sbnation.com/2019/12/30/21035159/the-10-least-consequential-athletes-of-the-decade

ciderpress, Monday, 30 December 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link

ty

imago, Monday, 30 December 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

On Wednesday morning, the Ringer Union and the Writers Guild of America East learned that Spotify has purchased ​The Ringer. pic.twitter.com/dvNvpKnPMa

— Ringer Union (@RingerUnion) February 5, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link

Oh great

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 18:34 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Grant Wahl fired by Sports Illustrated

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 10 April 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link

that 'internal memo' was really something

mookieproof, Friday, 10 April 2020 21:03 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

athletic laying of 8% of staff

mookieproof, Friday, 5 June 2020 17:33 (four years ago) link

oh man

Spottie, Friday, 5 June 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link

i imagine the lack of shit to talk about has hit their bottom line p hard

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Friday, 5 June 2020 18:34 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

17776 sequel y'all

https://www.sbnation.com/secret-base/21410129/20020/chapter-1

imago, Monday, 28 September 2020 23:16 (four years ago) link

how is this even better than 17776

Chip-vill-A (imago), Friday, 9 October 2020 22:34 (four years ago) link

Here's the proper landing page

https://www.sbnation.com/secret-base/21410129/20020

Anyway, 7/12 in and this is basically the literary event of 2020

Chip-vill-A (imago), Monday, 12 October 2020 23:07 (four years ago) link

i keep putting it off because i don't feel ready but i will never be ready and should just start tonight

TRANCED INTO RADIOACTIVE PUREE (Will M.), Monday, 12 October 2020 23:36 (four years ago) link

It's done. Unbelievably great

imago, Saturday, 24 October 2020 07:18 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

ESPN has announced that Dan Le Batard is leaving the company in January.

— Jimmy Traina (@JimmyTraina) December 3, 2020

Spottie, Thursday, 3 December 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link

i stg if he has a fuckin substack...

discourse stu (m bison), Friday, 4 December 2020 00:51 (four years ago) link

Simmons was on the show today so I'm putting 10 bucks on the ringah

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 4 December 2020 00:58 (four years ago) link

maybe he's going to start his own wildly unsuccessful series of political punditry videos on youtube a la keith olbermann

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 December 2020 10:51 (four years ago) link

such an asshole that i'm forced to side with the jets

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/12/11/manish-mehta-jets-daily-news

mookieproof, Saturday, 12 December 2020 00:17 (four years ago) link

huh

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:17 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsmQzkHXUAET4qD?format=png&name=small

mookieproof, Monday, 25 January 2021 18:32 (three years ago) link

okay lol at your framing of that clip

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

thank you for your service

One other layer...for future journalists...your first few years feel unpaid. I made 16.5k my first two years and worked harder than I’ve ever worked. There is a reason not everyone makes it in this business. I don’t have time for those of you who don’t understand grind ✌🏼 https://t.co/c4iWwPQ1bs

— Jane Slater (@SlaterNFL) March 1, 2021

mookieproof, Monday, 1 March 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link

journalists are the real troops

himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 00:03 (three years ago) link

the thin cmyk line

himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 00:03 (three years ago) link

happily her rich grandfather supported her as she built an important career breaking american football news #grind

mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 01:20 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

This article on Team Hawaii from the 1970's era NASL is something else. Requires subscription, but I could probably be convinced to copy/paste it into a post…

https://theathletic.com/2488753

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

just so i have recorded this fact somewhere--the other day, the truehoop guy, who is still bitter that he no longer runs espn's nba coverage, tried to do some gotcha journalism on phoenix suns owner robert sarver by posting a video of sarver making some very off-color jokes at the memorial service of a deceased friend/business partner. hours later, that guy's widow contacted truehoop guy to let him know that it was intended to be a roast and that she thought it was hilarious.

call all destroyer, Monday, 5 July 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

lol at how hard espn dot com is pushing la liga right now

what percentage of its readership can name more than two teams or players

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 August 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

last couple years they've been doing that with serie A

symsymsym, Saturday, 14 August 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

It’s always wild when you think an artist has long since passed the peak of their career, and then they drop one of their biggest hits ever out of nowhere pic.twitter.com/lpfYhBRkDH

— actioncookbook (@actioncookbook) January 17, 2022

mookieproof, Monday, 17 January 2022 23:49 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

how do they keep doing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alcVZZuj_WE

imago, Monday, 27 June 2022 09:41 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

gold

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Friday, 30 December 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

I laughed so hard watching that video

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 December 2022 03:34 (one year ago) link

xxxps ChatGPT may be approaching the Turing test but can it pass the Shams test?

As the poultry in question traversed the asphalt thoroughfare, one could not help but wonder at the avian's motivations for such a daring feat, according to sources close to the situation. Despite the inherent danger posed by the vehicular traffic hurtling past at high speeds, the chicken seemed undeterred, its determined gait and resolute demeanor a testament to its unwavering focus, league sources say.

As the chicken drew closer to the other side of the road, it became apparent that its destination was a grassy median, where it could perhaps peck at worms or bask in the sun's warm rays, according to an unnamed source. But alas, the journey was not to be an easy one, as the chicken was forced to navigate around various obstacles, including bits of debris, puddles of water, and even the occasional wayward leaf, as reported by multiple eyewitnesses.

Despite these challenges, the chicken remained undaunted, its resolve unwavering as it continued to make its way across the road, as confirmed by multiple sources close to the chicken. And eventually, after what must have seemed an eternity to the plucky fowl, it reached the safety of the median, where it could rest and enjoy the fruits of its labor, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.

So there you have it, a needlessly complex description of a chicken crossing the road, in the confusingly verbose and grammatically spotty style of Shams Charania, as reported by various sources.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

did the ryder cup even happen if Stephen A. Smith failed to weigh in on it?

presumably too busy shitting on dak for only winning 38-3 on the road

mookieproof, Monday, 2 October 2023 05:04 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

shams was robbed imo

https://defector.com/presenting-the-2023-shamsy

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 December 2023 21:03 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

these pull quotes are amazing

https://defector.com/pro-commanders-spin-somehow-a-bigger-mess-than-commanders

mookieproof, Monday, 5 February 2024 20:18 (ten months ago) link

“competence, vision and sanity”

brimstead, Monday, 5 February 2024 23:32 (ten months ago) link

three months pass...

The magnifying glass on her is enormous, but the actual performances examined through the prism of reality have been the overall positive mixed bag almost any top rookie has early on in a pro sports career.

-- ESPN's Michael Voepel on Caitlin Clark

mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:05 (seven months ago) link

strong early contender for a shams

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:37 (seven months ago) link

wow lol

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 20:47 (seven months ago) link

just sitting around thinking about refraction

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 21:30 (seven months ago) link

I came out of that sentence a changed person, but I can't exactly say how

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 22:01 (seven months ago) link

six months pass...

can't argue with this result, but that ben standig/dianna russini article remains truly incredible

https://defector.com/presenting-the-2024-shamsy

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 December 2024 23:30 (three days ago) link

who amongst us has not recently experienced fluid

symsymsym, Thursday, 19 December 2024 23:47 (three days ago) link

unpaywalled: https://archive.is/1lmYu

mookieproof, Friday, 20 December 2024 00:08 (two days ago) link


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