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I don't know much of anything about this, other than a rather silly programme on Channel 4. What's the deal? Genuine Pagan Roots or New Age Nonsense?

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Friday, 4 October 2013 22:51 (twelve years ago)

Genuine Pagan Roots or New Age Nonsense

these aren't mutually exclusive

Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 October 2013 22:53 (twelve years ago)

i was a witness at a wiccan wedding years ago. it was in the home of one of those new age crystal ladies... all i remember is her carpeting looked like if someone ate an entire birthday cake with those multi-colored confetti crunchy bits and then threw up everywhere and she decided to go with the look.

other bits and pieces were a hand tying ceremony and calls to the spirit of the trees, spirit of water, spirit of fire, and spirit of earth. i think she was summoning captain planet to ward over their marriage.

Spectrum, Friday, 4 October 2013 23:02 (twelve years ago)

I guess I meant to ask if it's just some authentic pagan things just mixed around with new age nonsense added in.

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Friday, 4 October 2013 23:05 (twelve years ago)

can anything be "authentically" pagan at this point? those guys were all burned up or converted about 1500 years ago

Spectrum, Friday, 4 October 2013 23:08 (twelve years ago)

you wanna see some authentic paganism go to a rave imho

Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 October 2013 23:09 (twelve years ago)

three weeks pass...

Pagan friends bitching about that article today

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 28 October 2013 01:03 (eleven years ago)

Many pagan traditions were pretty damed sophisticated and involved very intricate and intertwined myths and ceremonies. A general theme was that one learned them through direct transmission from the most knowlegeable of one's elders.

Wiccans, however well-intentioned they are, have very shallow roots in older pagan traditions, which have mostly been lost because of breaks in the chain of transmission. They are, at best, reconstructing a pastiche which might, over time, evolve into a paganism equally sophisticated and well-adapted to the needs of the society where they are practised. Present day Wiccans are at least a couple of centuries away from this possible outcome.

Aimless, Monday, 28 October 2013 04:30 (eleven years ago)

http://blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/files/2011/07/clarissa_explains_it_all-show.jpg

stylings (Matt P), Monday, 28 October 2013 04:34 (eleven years ago)

Then there are those who effortlessly rise above the need for explanations.

Aimless, Monday, 28 October 2013 04:48 (eleven years ago)

They love Arthurian legend

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:04 (eleven years ago)

Not a decent all-around album since Summerteeth.

pplains, Monday, 28 October 2013 18:12 (eleven years ago)

I still like Yankee Hotel Foxblood

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago)

A Ghost is Born wasn't bad either. Maybe this is the appropriate thread after all.

pplains, Monday, 28 October 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago)

answer to q: wicca is a 20th century invention with no direct link to historical paganism.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1355/what-is-the-historical-basis-of-the-wicca-religion-modern-witchcraft

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 28 October 2013 19:22 (eleven years ago)

shocking

stylings (Matt P), Monday, 28 October 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago)

all those direct historical links out there youd think wicca wouldve gotten themselves one

stylings (Matt P), Monday, 28 October 2013 19:32 (eleven years ago)

n.b. i don't actually care enough to do more than concern troll against theoretical attacks

stylings (Matt P), Monday, 28 October 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago)


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