Does America have the best sense of humor?

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Just from looking at things like Sienfeld, The Simpsons, The Onion, Woody Allen, Space Ghost, Some of the American stand up comedians, etc. It seems like America has the best sense of humor. Canada has Kids in the Hall, England has Monty Python and Mr. Bean, but do any of these compare? I may just be partial because I'm American, but does anyone else agree? and what other examples of great humor are there?

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:04 (twenty-three years ago)

ptee

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:08 (twenty-three years ago)

no.
i agree you gave the world woody allen etc but still think british humour is more my cup of tea with its quirkiness and oddball/eccentric shows.
monty python was an early one and mr bean can be plain irritating but there are many other examples which of course i cant bluddy think of right now!
i guess to me anyway it isnt that a show or comedian will make me laugh out loud so much as cause a wry smile and sense of empathy. it all depends on your own sense of humour doesnt it.

donna (donna), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, it does have a lot to do with individual sense of humor.

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:13 (twenty-three years ago)

We have the most to make fun of... politics, corporate state, race relations, suburban affluence, political correctness, etc.

But Space Ghost is the only one of those mentioned that really gets me. The Onion's one-note condescending ironic tone grew stale a long time ago for me. Especially in the wake of the events of... nevermind.

Aaron A., Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Of course we have a sense of humor. Our politics are hilarious.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I think England has much pride in thier dry wit humor, but there is not much more than that. I think American has more variety from Jackass-style slapstick to New Yorker cartoons.

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:17 (twenty-three years ago)

the "dry wit" of benny hill = we win

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Was Dr. Strangelove more American or British humor?

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:28 (twenty-three years ago)

why, is it funny? < / kneejerk kubrick hate >

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, http://us.imdb.com/Charts/Votes/comedy

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Is it that American humor is funnier or that American comedy has a higher profile because the U.S. dominates the world media, if only in sheer amount produced?

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Uh, Canada, guys.... really

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:49 (twenty-three years ago)

35,127 people vs mark s

boxcubed (boxcubed), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:50 (twenty-three years ago)

and those are only the regular voters

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Buster Keaton = Amercian
Charlie Chaplin = British

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:53 (twenty-three years ago)

if that's how we're measuring, benny hill still owns this thread

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:54 (twenty-three years ago)

35 thousand votes, 277 comments!

boxcubed (boxcubed), Thursday, 3 October 2002 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)

From mefi today: World's funniest joke no laughing matter!

"Americans and Canadians, on the other hand, preferred jokes where there was a strong sense of superiority - either because a character looks stupid or is made to look stupid by someone else." We rule.

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 3 October 2002 20:13 (twenty-three years ago)

game over:

http://home.graffiti.net/buglebear/krankies.gif

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 3 October 2002 20:18 (twenty-three years ago)

britain not's just about dry wit and irony you know.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 3 October 2002 20:21 (twenty-three years ago)

GAME OVER:


http://www.reeldeals.com/pictures/strngcom.jpg

gabriel rodriguez-doerr (gabe), Thursday, 3 October 2002 20:31 (twenty-three years ago)

yay! comedy duo top trumps!

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 3 October 2002 20:32 (twenty-three years ago)

on the uk version of Whos Line Is It Anyway the americans are WAY funnier then the british!

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 3 October 2002 20:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Tommy Cooper, Stan Laurel, Eric Morecambe, Peter Cook, Frankie Howerd, Paul Merton. The trouble with judging this is that I haven't seen anything much of a lot of the Americans cited as the greats (even Woody Allen - all his films, but I've only ever seen one of his standup routines), and I bet most of the Americans have limited familiarity with, say, Cooper, Morecambe, Howerd and Merton above. The other side: Groucho Marx, Buster Keaton, Woody Allen. A comfy British win on points, from my perspective.

But sitcoms may be different. Again, I bet we've seen more of your best than you have of ours, but I might just give the edge to America there, with The Simpsons and Bilko tipping the scales.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 3 October 2002 21:33 (twenty-three years ago)

League Of Gentlemen
The Fast Show
The Day Today
Alexei Sayle's comedy show (whatever he actually named it)
Drop The Dead Donkey
Red Dwarf
those already mentioned, etc. etc.I mean Fawlty Towers, people!

Lek Dukagjin, Thursday, 3 October 2002 21:46 (twenty-three years ago)

like any country in the world, america produces an awful lot of really unfunny comedies, and a small amount of really good ones.

di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 3 October 2002 22:10 (twenty-three years ago)

the best american sitcoms get cancelled immediately, which must indicate something.

the actual mr. jones (actual), Thursday, 3 October 2002 22:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Just from this quote of the laughlab experiment article you can see how completely lame the joke prefered by Ireland, UK, Australia and New Zealand is. And how, great the joke prefered by America and Canada.


"People from the Republic of Ireland, the UK, Australia and New Zealand most enjoyed jokes involving word plays.

One example was as follows. Patient: "Doctor, I've got a strawberry stuck up my bum." Doctor: "I've got some cream for that!"

Americans and Canadians, on the other hand, preferred jokes where there was a strong sense of superiority - either because a character looks stupid or is made to look stupid by someone else.

This was an example of American humour.

Texan: "Where are you from?"

Harvard graduate: "I come from a place where we do not end our sentences with prepositions."

Texan: "OK, where are you from, Jackass?"
"

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 3 October 2002 22:21 (twenty-three years ago)

So the British are fond of sodomy and Americans hate intelectuals, then...nice to know that The Stereotypes Still Apply.

Btw, Sri Lankan humor is widely supeior to American humor.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 3 October 2002 22:39 (twenty-three years ago)

(I managed to mispell both "humour" and "superior". I rule.)

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 3 October 2002 22:41 (twenty-three years ago)

(Fuck. Sorry. Can't keep up with all the new threads.)

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 3 October 2002 23:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Most American comedians are actually Canadian aren't they?

Kim (Kim), Friday, 4 October 2002 00:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Only the white gentile ones.

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 4 October 2002 00:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyone who has seen She's the Sheriff can tell you that the answer to that question is a resounding no.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 4 October 2002 00:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Sienfeld, The Simpsons, & Woody Allen were pretty bad examples, seeing as none of them are at all funny.

Canada had You Can't Do That On TV therefore Canadians have the best sense of humour. The Brits were close runners up with the Benny Hill Show.

toraneko (toraneko), Friday, 4 October 2002 00:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Australians have Paul Hogan so they win.

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 4 October 2002 00:42 (twenty-three years ago)

America has Ice Cube so we win.

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 4 October 2002 00:44 (twenty-three years ago)

not saying one way or another as I'm a big fan of Canadian and various UK humor, but for the USA I have to mention Richard Pryor (and a whole amazing mess of African-American stand-up - Chris Rock, Redd Foxx, Eddie Murphy, Bernie Mac; does BET's "Comic View" get broadcast anywhere but America).

I'm also wondering what the deal is with "The Family Guy" getting a UK DVD release, whereas here it couldn't even get renewed? That is my favorite sit-com.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 4 October 2002 06:55 (twenty-three years ago)

League of Gentlemen, Absolutely Fabulous, Black Adder, Black Books, Big Train, French and Saunders, Keeping Up Appearances, etc etc.

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 4 October 2002 07:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Sienfeld, The Simpsons, & Woody Allen were pretty bad examples, seeing as none of them are at all funny.

brrr! is it cold in here?

Canada had You Can't Do That On TV therefore Canadians have the best sense of humour

what do you think is IN THE BURGERS?!?!??

chaki (chaki), Friday, 4 October 2002 07:47 (twenty-three years ago)

sorry, did anyone actually *read* that imdb list? 'one flew over the cuckoo's nest' @ no. 2 - is that really a comedy? 'almost famous' @ 36 ??!! where's laurel & hardy? this is spinal tap? withnail & i? midnight run? crap list number 3,570,009,221,337.

michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 4 October 2002 08:26 (twenty-three years ago)

if "friends" is a shining example of "superior humour" then obviously it goes WAY over my head.

di smith (lucylurex), Friday, 4 October 2002 09:12 (twenty-three years ago)

does america have the best comedians
does america have the best comedies

these are questions that we can agree have been answered

boxcubed (boxcubed), Friday, 4 October 2002 09:36 (twenty-three years ago)

withnail and i is korrektly placed

UK is disqualified, for entering it at all

US wins, denis leary notwithstanding

mark s (mark s), Friday, 4 October 2002 09:38 (twenty-three years ago)

withnail and i is korrektly placed

huh? you mean unplaced?

michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 4 October 2002 09:41 (twenty-three years ago)

why wd it be placed?

mark s (mark s), Friday, 4 October 2002 09:49 (twenty-three years ago)

so, for you, it's korrektly unplaced. you're wrong but that's cool.

michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 4 October 2002 10:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Father. Ted.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 4 October 2002 10:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Top Something tv set Comedians/Comedy Actors etc., (today - could change tomorrow). All from the perspective of East Anglia's fenland since being born in 1974.

1)Stan Laurel, Oliver Hardy
2)Harold Lloyd
3)Oscar Wilde
4)Chris Langham
5)Stephen Fry
6)Richard Pryor
7)Tony Slattery
8)Spike Milligan
9)Steve Martin
10)Lily Tomlin
11)Lance Percival
12)Phil Silvers
13)Chris Morris
14)Graham Chapman
15)Rowland Rivron(Especially in his criminally overlooked 'Set of Six'
16)Frankie Howerd
17)Kenneth Williams
18)Bill Hicks
19)Julian Clary
20)Peter Cook
21)Ken Dodd ...
Hugh Laurie, Charles Hawtrey, Tom Hanks (early), Dudley Moore, Lee Evans, John Cleese, Roy Kinnear, Leonard Rossiter, Kathy Burke, Vic Reeves, Kevin Eldon, Ivor Cutler, Dave Gorman, Pete McCarthy, Charlie Chuck, Frank Sidebottom, Rik Mayall (All of The Young Ones), Richard Curtis, Willie Rushton, Charlie Chaplin, Norman Lovett, Freddie Starr, Norman Wisdom, Half Man Half Biscuit, Jimmy Mulville, Edwyn Collins, Neil Mullarkey, Henry Normal, Ryan Styles, Colin Mockery, Jeremy Dyson, Steve Pemberton, Mark Gatiss, Reece Shearsmith, Steve Davis (snooker player and wit), Mark Thomas, Eric Morecambe, Ronnie Barker, Ronnie Corbett, Andrew Davies (writer of 'A Very Peculiar Practice' and 'Game On'), Bill Murray, Ricky Gervais, Matthew Broderick, Matthew Perry, Windsor Davies, John Le Mesurier, Arnold Ridley, Michael Crawford (Some Mother's do ave 'em), Tim Brooke-Taylor, Bill Oddie, Graham Garden, Armando Ianucci, Harry Enfield, Simon Day, Paul Whitehouse, Charlie Higson, Johnny Vaughan, Conan O'Brien, Jonathan Ross, Russ Abbott, Barry Cryer, Lemn Sissay (poet, but so funny as well), Michael Bentine, Morwenna Banks, John Sparkes, Kelly Monteith, Patrick Marber, Clive Anderson, Eddie Izzard, Mark Steel, Nick 'Training Day' Revell, Andy ' Rraining Day' Hamilton, Basil Brush, East Anglia's B.C (Birthday Club puppet tiger from the early eighties), Muppets, Andy De La Tour, The Persihers, Rhubard and Custard, Terry Thomas, Woman who played 'Grace Under Fire', Rory Motion, Jeff Green, Craig Ferguson, Craig Charles, Chris Barrie, Ringo Starr, Mark Lamarr, Arthur Smith, Paula Yates, Marilyn Monroe, Mel Brooks, Mel Smith, Rowan Atkinson, Alan Cummings, Robin Williams, David Schneider, Peter Baynham, Steve Coogan, Chris Tarrant, Dawn French, Griff Rhys-Jones, Kids in the Hall, Les Dawson, Lynda Smith, Barry Cryer, Barry Took, Johnny Vegas, John Inman, Ben Stiller, John Candy, Henry Winkler, Michael Barrymore, Steven Wright, Graham Linehan and Arthur Mathews ... I mean, I could go on ...

Owen, Friday, 4 October 2002 10:42 (twenty-three years ago)

you are all gay

Houdini Gordonii (ex machina), Friday, 31 March 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

(lock thread?)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 31 March 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

you are all gay

WELL YOU WOULD KNOW

Superior British Sense Of Humour (blueski), Friday, 31 March 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

"But two of the main characters are Jewish". Yes, and see how they're portrayed. One, a Darwinist, can't even hold down a relationship and let the name of his ex-lover slip during his Christian vows. The other is an obsessive compulsive whose journey in life seems to centre on having become thin when she finally abjured her Jewish faith.

"Surely Gunther was an American citizen born in the States." Why the incessant German references, and why is he not called Brad?

Alice Crow, Friday, 31 March 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

The other thing to remember is that British shows that turn up on American channels tend to be established, critically acclaimed, or at least known "viable" shows that have some sort of fanbase back here and then get imported over there. American shows on British TV are bought before they're shown in America, which explains why Channel 4 has a backlog of cancelled US sitcoms that it shoves on at 4 in the morning after they've realised that nobody could possibly want to watch them (see: Dweebs, Some Of My Best Friends Are, that think about the dog walkers). This also explains why Will and Grace didn't turn up on British TV for roughly six years.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the Tea Leone sitcom "Flying Blind".

Staff Member, Friday, 31 March 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

"Surely Gunther was an American citizen born in the States." Why the incessant German references, and why is he not called Brad?

I'm sure the idea was he had German parentage or great-grandparentage but was born in NY or nearby - his accent seems to suggest he had been there long enough. You are reading far too much into this and it's just not there.

As for your reading of Friends portrayal of the two Jewish characters, it's baffling! Monica and Ross were always regarded higher than any of the other characters, their parents were still together and happy (unlike the other characters) and featured more often than the others. And Elliott Gould rocks. The negative traits of Ross and Monica's characters (nerdiness and obsessive competetiveness respectfully) were highlighted no more than the negative quirks of the other characters (the others being equally 'inept' in holding down a relationship).

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

I think the writers painted themselves into a corner re Ross and Monica.

Alice Crow, Friday, 31 March 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

omg Joey Tribbiani CLEARLY demonstrates that Catholics are shallow, dim nymphomaniacs who would be sweeping the streets if only they weren't so darn cute.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

bbc america sounds a lot better than bbc uk!!!!

ken c (ken c), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

i just can't recall any incessant references to Gunther's supposed 'foreign-ness' or 'Germanic nature' other than HIS NAME.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

wait isnt lisa kudrow jewish too

++++, Friday, 31 March 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

actually sinker & i have a long co-thesis on the jewishness of friends

++++, Friday, 31 March 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

as formulated in his living room

++++, Friday, 31 March 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

All the weaknesses of all the characters were evinced in the light of the Church of America.

Alice Crow, Friday, 31 March 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

wait isnt lisa kudrow jewish too

She might be but Phoebe wasn't. Courtney Cox isn't Jewish anyway, is she?

Dadaismus Is A Very Magic Fellow (Dada), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Gunther totally dresses like a Satanist, now you come to mention it.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

i thought Rachel was meant to be Jewish in Friends as well, what with that 'spoilt princess' persona she came in with (but left without). hmmm. oh and her Dad had a boat, and we know how much those guys love the water!

Konal 'borderline offensive' Doddz (blueski), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Which church exactly is that?

(Er, Rachel is jewish too? Clue's in the question, like. Oh never mind, xpost)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Greek!

Dadaismus Is A Very Magic Fellow (Dada), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

No, hold on, I'm getting the actors and their characters mixed up

Dadaismus Is A Very Magic Fellow (Dada), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

watching britney spears on will and grace last night was kind of painful

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

woo good thing i never watch that show now (the Cher cameo was bad enough)

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

i love queeny/bitchy humor but will & grace is not funny

++++, Friday, 31 March 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Gary Shandling

Lock Thread, Friday, 31 March 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
America has nothing to comapre with the Odd Odes of That's Life's
Cyril Fletcher.

Snappy Dresser, Monday, 17 April 2006 10:22 (nineteen years ago)

America has nothing to comapre with the Odd Odes of That's Life's
Cyril Fletcher.

-- Snappy Dresser (ks;...), April 17th, 2006. (later)

qft

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 April 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

I believe that the Americans like to exaggerate everything leading to more "obvious" comedy as compared to the British wit. Additionally, many British sitcoms have been "Americanised". I love both, but if I had to take a pick I would probably go with British Humour

TQM, Friday, 21 April 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

Again, the British know when to cancel a sitcom (as well as limiting a series... season in America). The Americans tend to drag their sitcoms on & on... Hence the British sitcoms still seem fresh when compared to their American counterparts...

TQM, Friday, 21 April 2006 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

Of course, since there's only about 12 episodes usually, they get kind of stale pretty quickly too.

everything, Friday, 21 April 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

I believe that the Americans like to exaggerate everything leading to more "obvious" comedy as compared to the British wit.

http://www.ontheairmagazine.com/Keeping-up-Appearances-(72d.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 April 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

tho you may be right generally.

anyway, the obv answer is America has the best sense of humor for (most) Americans, Britan for (most) Britishes, etc etc etc

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 April 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

actually sinker & i have a long co-thesis on the jewishness of friends

well it was written by Comden and Green

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 April 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Did you mean to post a picture of Patricia Routledge or did you mean to post a picture of Molly Sugden?

TS: Mick Ralphs vs. Ariel Bender (Dada), Friday, 21 April 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

The Brits have a lot more character comedians / actors who are great at both disciplines: Fred Emney, Hal Gordon, George Cole, Alastair Sim, Graham Crowden, Graham Moffatt, Gus McNaughton (started as a stand up), Edward Chapman (Mr. Grimsdale), Jack Douglas.

Eat, the indie band of the early 190's, Sunday, 30 April 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

six years pass...

America's comedians had the excellent sense to quit while they were ahead.

Aimless, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

three years pass...

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-political-sitcoms-20160706-snap-story.html

“American TV comedy nowadays tends not to be ironic or satirical,” he related. “There is a wish to make it homey and cozy. When I was talking to a network about turning [“Yes, Minister”] into an American series, I was asked if I could put a kid into it — or failing that, a dog. I decided that life is too short.” (For Lynn’s personal view on Brexit, see his Facebook page.)

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:35 (nine years ago)

He's generalizing about comedy on American TV based on his experiences with American network TV, which is a pretty big mistake.

some anal dread (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:38 (nine years ago)

shouldve gone undercover to the underground clandestine american comedy scene

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:45 (nine years ago)

I have like 100 gigglebytes of sweet American comedy on my HDD

skateboard of education (rip van wanko), Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:11 (nine years ago)

how many dogs would you say star in them

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:15 (nine years ago)

British sitcoms have cats in them

O, Barack: flaws (wins), Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:16 (nine years ago)

We are cat people

O, Barack: flaws (wins), Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:16 (nine years ago)

mysterious

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:18 (nine years ago)

Mind you, 95% of comedy is atrocious regardless of its source or country of origin. And I say that as a lover of comedy.

some anal dread (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:22 (nine years ago)

this list is appallingly Americentric and doesn't even include Vienna from Rising Damp, the quintessential British sitcom cat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_cats_in_television

soref, Thursday, 7 July 2016 18:06 (nine years ago)

No room for Mrs Slocombe's pussy?

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 18:09 (nine years ago)

incidentally, the wikipedia page for Rising Damp has a section titled "Emphasis on personal failure" = this possibly says something about the British sense of humuor, even if it doesn't settle the question of which country's sense of humour is "best"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Damp#Emphasis_on_personal_failure

soref, Thursday, 7 July 2016 18:11 (nine years ago)

British sitcoms have cats in them

― O, Barack: flaws (wins)

danny john-jules isn't a real cat, he's a human being pretending to be a cat

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:26 (nine years ago)

DJP is American and he's been on fucking fire today

El Tomboto, Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:36 (nine years ago)


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