The Purge

This took 87 million dollars

It is a piece of shit.

A piece of utter shit.

I have not words

And now the ending.

Oh christ.

thought this would be another embittered levy transfer window update

This made 87m some of you cunts must have heard of this

obv was going to be shit?

Not to this extent

better to read the wikipedia entry for this kind of movie, and never watch it.

Not my choice, i am at a halloween movie night.

I have been vocal since minute 3.

The entire concept seems stupid and overly complicated. These guys had great fun excoriating it:

http://www.flophousepodcast.com/2013/10/episode-137-the-purge/

I saw it and enjoyed it fwiw. It is pretty silly though obv

http://www.debate.org/opinions/should-we-actually-have-a-purge

39% say yes

I saw the new one today and havent seen the others. Very nonsensical.

they could have been great. if someone great had made them. i've never seen them though. i would totally watch them on netflix.

the depiction of how ideology works was interesting. at the beginning there is an interview with an activist who lays out the left wing account of the purge: it is a cynical ploy on the part of white oligarchs to get the lower classes to kill each other. the religious and sociological rhetoric used to justify it -- that society is "purified" when people have an outlet for their anger once a year, that violence cleanses not just society but the individual soul -- is just propaganda. the activist says that the purge "enriches the NRA"and other industries, like home security.

this account is more or less borne out by what we see in the film. the "new founding fathers" indeed seem detached and cynical and they certainly have no interest in running through the streets carrying axes themselves. however, in the last third of the film, we get to see the "purge mass" at the famous DC cathedral. here the spokesperson for the purge -- some generic looking white politician -- gives a rousing and fanatical sermon to a congregation of wealthy white old people as he calls people to the stage to "purge" human sacrifices. this guy is one of the architects of the purge -- one of the cynics -- but here he seems like a true believer.

later he is kidnapped by the leftists who plan to execute him. the predictable thing would be for him to plead for his life, revealing cowardice and hypocrisy. that at least fits with the account that he helped engineer the purge to enrich himself and others like him. but he does not do this. he remains caught up in his earlier, fervent attitude, shouting "kill me! kill me!" at the leader of the rebels. he says "it is your right as an American. express your freedom. PUUUUUURGGGE."

so like, in the end, he believes the purge is patriotism, it seems, or a godly duty or whatever. the leftist account of why the purge was created -- class war -- is certainly correct. but, still, it is not the way the actual engineers of the purge understand their own motives. the rhetoric takes on its own reality.

think i might be sick of dystopian fantasy by this point

i liked the part of the film where the noble bodega owner is enraged to learn his "purge insurance" rates have gone up. i would love to see the bureacratic nightmare of a purge insurance company, evaluating damaged property claims after a night of mayhem and mass murder.

elizabeth mitchell was good in this. she was really believable as a politician who keeps a level head in an insane reality. i think it worked bc there is always something a little "off" about her performances. she seems detached or lofty, which was played for creepy effect in LOST and here makes us trust the fact that she is a person who only ever listens to the private dictates of her own conscience.

anyway, none of this changes the fact that it was a dumb and ridiculous movie.

I recently watched the 2nd one bc I've seen it touted as underrated... blecch

I'm sure a venn diagram comparing trumpsters and purgesters would just be a circle

i wonder how much trump's approval would sink if he proposed the purge. his supporters seem a little different than the purgers in the films but they also have an extraordinary capacity to explain away the crazy stuff their candidate says

This is kinda fun if you treat it like a slick version of a big dumb action film and not horror.

2nd one didn't even work on that level

The scenery chewing had to be intentional...I hope.

"I want my candybar...cocksucker"

YAAAAS. YOLO. those girls with their giggly encouragements of each others' bad behavior were great. i would watch a whole movie about the one who killed her parents. i'm interested in how other family members would react to this. does the legal sanctioning of the purge mean that friends and family just accept it? if i was that girl's uncle or whatever i wouldn't feel super inclined to take her in as my own after she orphaned herself in that way.

in general i wanted to see more about the fallout, or what happens between purges. so much isn't explained.

About the only parts of the movie I like are the parts that aren't exposition considering how often they repeat pieces of dialogue to "drive the message home"

oh i liked it as a dirt simple political allegory that still contained some surprising twists and internal contradictions. film is my least favorite form of art though so i was hardly going to relish the suspense of it or whatever.

i thought these was documentaries tbh

Stalin's real purges haunt my thoughts more than any shit movie franchise nonsense. Christ! those black ravens driven by merciless NKVD ops in the dead of night, who calmly "processed" you, then did the paperwork. Even scarier than the SS or the Gestapo.

yeah crap

Eesh. Haven't seen any of these, but the first was the producers of Paranormal Activity? Dunno, movies like that and REC were seriously disturbing....

the purge is not seriously disturbing except that it seems like a movie that would give DJT some real good ideas

i've never seen any of these movies but some people who are not deems say they're good

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN0RslSU8AAIJoU.jpg

i like the second and third one

There are a lot of them, right? If you didn't like the first, why did you watch the second? If you liked the second and third, does that mean you saw the fourth? If you saw the fourth and didn't like it, will you still see the new one?

Which is a long way around of asking, Brad: how many Saw movies have you seen?

the first purge movie is a home invasion movie, the next two are cracking exploitative action movies. i’ve watched them bc my friends like them

i’ve only seen the first saw film, it was good if aesthetically extremely early-‘00s in a bad way

First Saw I recall was rife with terrible, terrible acting (mostly over). I've seen bits and pieces of the others on cable and here and there, and they really seemed designed (like the Final Destination movies) to be compiled into youtube "Best Kills" collections. Which the movies already kinda are, except with a whole bunch of superfluous "plot" clogging up the works. "The Purge" movies ... they remind me (in concept) of a Chicago Reader Rosenbaum review of "From Dusk Til Dawn" that concludes: "if your critical horizons are low and you're in a nasty mood, you probably won't be bored."

I just watched The Forever Purge, not having seen any of them. It was kind of lackluster production-wise, but more openly political than I expected. The bad guys are white supremacist fascists and the good guys are both Mexican and American, but led by the Mexican characters. Also prominent Black and Native American roles in the resistance. The big finale is an attempt to escape to safety in Mexico. Preachy dialogue and so-so acting, but fascinating as a thing anyway.