1993's Best Picture Oscar Nominees

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Oh man, I've only seen one of these, and I really didn't like it...

The irrational guilt I feel for preferring The Fugitive to Schindler's List has finally revealed to me the approximate conditions which allowed Crash to win anything ever.

Probably one of the last years where I saw all five. I try to miss at least one intentionally every year now.

Schindler, in fact, over In the Name of the Father. The Piano is fucking crap, and I Don't Care About the Repressed Butler and The Fugitive are good for what they are.

I try to miss at least one intentionally every year now.

It's a lot easier now.

(Still haven't seen The Remains of the Day or In the Name of the Father tbh.)

Also, the last time I saw Schindler or The Fugitive, I was 14, so.

Remains Of The Day. Richard Robbins score is aces.

Perhaps you know the story about Quentin Tarantino, who before the screening of his Pulp Fiction asked the audience: "Who likes the movie The Remains of the Day?". Several people raised their hands. Then Tarantino shouted: "So get the fuck out of the room."

http://pistachiocinema.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/pieces-of-memories-or-james-ivorys.html

heard this story before. supposedly ROTD had beaten PF for some film fest award?

yeah, now I try to miss two or three. eg, 1995 I've never seen Braveheart or Il Postino.

As for '93, Groundhog Day and Short Cuts wuz robbed, and I woulda taken Farewell My Concubine and The Age of Innocence over at least 3 of these.

Same here.

In the Name of the Father gets my vote. I've seen it twice since its original run and am still impressed. The Fugitive probably next.

The Piano is horseshit.

xpost Real talk. Groundhog Day is probably the best film of '93.

and in the nothing-to-do-with-Oscars wing, Sembene's Guelwaar showed in NYC.

I might like Searching for Bobby Fischer best for this year. Seems like Schindler's List mostly deserves the hype though. That's what I voted for.

Of what was even remotely on Oscar's long range radar, Short Cuts above all, with Carlito's Way (favor me) and Dazed & Confused behind.

I loved The Piano at the time, saw it two or three times--haven't gone back to it since. Also liked In the Name of the Father, and still remember Dylan and Hendrix being used really well.

I'm not a big fan of Spielberg's most serious films--Schindler's List, Ryan, Munich. I don't want to sound cavalier. "Serious" is the wrong word. Close Encounters is serious.

Haven't seen the other two. My favourite film for the year would be either Short Cuts or Dazed and Confused, unless I've forgotten a documentary.

I've still never seen Groundhog Day

Schindler, pretty comfortably

My top five of the year would go:

Dazed and Confused
Household Saints
Short Cuts
Three Colors: Blue
Six Degrees of Separation

oh yeah Blue was amazing

Blue for me too--it was the one that really made an impression on me. Also, and I know Morbius must love it, The War Room.

He still has the one-sheet tacked up on his bedroom wall.

a la Philip Seymour Hoffman in Happiness

liked In the Line of Fire better than several of these, too

I mean, I liked Jurassic Park better than several of these.

yeah I remember arguments with friends who preferred The Fugitive. ITLOF holds up well: Eastwood's never been better post-Unforgiven, Rene Russo isn't a decoration, and Malkovich is Malkovich Malkovich.

clemenza must have the one-sheet of Mohsen Makhmalbaf's The Actor

Kinda pumped to see that both Morbs and Alfred think The Piano is shit, frankly. It's one I revisit every now and then to see if I like it yet, and as of a year or so ago, still nope.

It's rather amazing that The Age of Innocence wasn't nominated for Best Picture. It'd get my vote if it was.

Second the love for Short Cuts and Six Degrees of Separation, the latter of which was my favourite movie for a while when I was 14 or 15. And I definitely second (or third, or whatever) the opinion that ITLOF > The Fugitive.

I remember liking The Piano a lot at the time (while not exactly getting it), but then I went back and watched some other Jane Campion stuff in the interim and didn't much like it, specifically An Angel at My Table.

Still, Top of the Lake is solid.

SDOS is kind of magical actually; it's amazing it survived the move from stage to film.

in a '94 interview for The New Yorker, Pauline Kael said The Piano was feminist wish fulfillment and said something like "Holly Hunter wants to be liberated to play, what, New Age trills?"

Still one of my favorite reax to a win:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xElXtoO_WmA

Not just Paquin, but Thompson and Hunter going nuts.

Also, Janet takes Stevie's "I Just Called To Say" baton to perform one of her worst songs at the Oscars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2WLNKTBTlQ

i remember the child hyperventilating, but my chief memory of the ceremony is my comedian friend kept doing Holocaust jokes at the party I attended. "And the winner is ZYKLON B!"

It was alright cuz he's Jewish.

Forgot Dazed & Confused was '93. That might tie w/Groundhog Dayfor my top spot.

Speaking as an Altman megastan, Short Cuts is kinda middling Altman-by-numbers, so I have a hard time ranking it very highly in this particular year even though it's not bad.

I agree (it's got awful, poorly realized bits), although I got no problem putting it in a year-end list.

god Jack Lemmon in this movie was like a root canal

Short Cuts is among the three best movies he ever made fuiud.

Or maybe four (McCabe & Mrs. Miller).

Sort of bizarre that odds were on Winona winning, since the Academy was obviously tepid on Innocence at best.

The "Carver Soup" leads to cynical choices.

The smart money was on Ryder or Rosie Perez iirc.

Fearless was in my top ten that year; don't know if it holds up.

I don't mind Lemmon in Short Cuts, although Kael's dismissal makes me laugh. "What does he want from us?" something like that, I think. Great film--in a small group after Nashville for me.

Perez was handicapped I think by the fact that a lot of people couldn't stand her c. 1993. Otherwise she definitely had the most Oscar-clip friendly role.

speaking of The Pianner

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/11/20-years-after-piano-weve-all-failed-holly-hunter/71518/

Fugitive and Remains are about as good as their respective genres get. In the Name and Piano, I haven't seen them for years. So I guess Schindler's List, though this is a year that could have used a broader slate to sweep up all the other good movies.

Short Cuts is among the three best movies he ever made fuiud.

I'm sure I could name at least 10 that I like better, and also that a decent number of those 10 would be far left field choices that no one else would put above Short Cuts (e.g. The Company).

Fearless is great. '93 wasn't a bad year, it seems.

Love Lemmon in Short Cuts!

Oh The Company is definitely just below the ultra-exclusive Tier 1 of Altman classics, but that's for another thread.

despite the significant dramatic licence, "in the name of the father" is an exciting and moving movie. my fave probably but i surprisingly loved "the remains of the day" when i saw it as a period drama hating 16 year old. i agree with godard on what he said about "schindlers list"

man Fugitive is great. Tommy Lee Jones peeping round one door, spotting a gunman holding a gun to his buddy's head, legging round the other side and shooting him from behind the *other* door.. best 'holding someone hostage' sequence ever.

Jeff Bridges in Fearless; only he could make someone that unlikebale.. somehow likeable.

'schindler's list' is a very good film -- maybe great -- and much of the criticism of it strikes me as being way off-base. i actually might prefer spielberg's 'serious' films to his 'fun' ones.

never got around to 'remains of the day,' though the ishiguro novel is a favorite (read it in high school and i think i was literally the only person in the class who liked it).

the adaptation isn't bad but it sentimentalizes Stevens and in typical Merchant Ivory fashion lacks the imagination to find a visual or tonal correlative for Stevens' voice.

the scene where Emma Thompson amorously backs Hopkins into a corner and he breaks out in tics = what everyone should hate about British acting

i actually might prefer spielberg's 'serious' films to his 'fun' ones.

I don't know if I'd go this far, but I definitely enjoy wrestling with his serious ones more than most other filmmakers' fun ones.

Amistad holds up about as well William Brennan does on the dais.

:p

The problem is he made The Color Purple like it was a fun one.

that was a compliment!

As I said earlier, I'd never reduce Close Encounters or E.T. to being just fun, nor would I run away from that term. Same with Jaws and The Sugarland Express. They're great films on many levels.

I'm a late Beatles man and I'm a late Spielberg man. I make no apologies.

in a '94 interview for The New Yorker, Pauline Kael said The Piano was feminist wish fulfillment and said something like "Holly Hunter wants to be liberated to play, what, New Age trills?"

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Oh what I wouldn't give to have had Kael still writing in the 90s, even though I imagine that the decade would have driven her to despair.

lol ppl hating on a movie where you see keitelcock

(i've never seen the piano, who knows, it probably sucks, but the fugitive the best of these anyway)

Would've loved to see a showdown between Schindler's List and Bad Lieutenant, but I guess the latter was '92 and The Crying Game stole the peen slot.

I'm going to re-watch The Piano, because I remember it being pretty cool. And I still like those Michael Nyman new age trills!

Which were weirdly ineligible for the best original score award.

Cates and the show’s choreographer, Debbie Allen, announced that the awards show will feature live performances by principal dancers from eight leading ballet companies in six-minute ballet set to the music of the five nominated scores –”The Age of Innocence,”"The Firm,”"The Fugitive,”"The Remains of the Day” and “Schindler’s List.”

Participant dancers will be from Les Ballets Africains of the Republic of Guinea, the National Ballet of Canada, the Central Ballet of China, the Nacionale Ballet de Cuba, the Dance Theatre of Harlem, Garth Fagan Dance Inc., the Paris Opera Ballet and the Shagai Ballet Troupe.

“We’ve tried to bring an international flavor to the show starting with the last several years,” Cates said.

schindler's is great but flawed, still might vote for it.

really love the fugitive, too. it's just brilliant. andrew davis had quite a run there: code of silence, above the law, the package, under siege, the fugitive...all stellar imo. completely levinsonned out after that though.

in the name of the father is excellent. what i most remember is every girl i was friends with in high school running out to see it the first weekend bc of long-tressed DDL. love the performances and the music. i still might prefer 'the boxer' though. the desperate seemingly doomed romance at the center of it hits a bit harder for me.

the piano was "good" but also pretty dull.

never saw remains of the day.

I bought a used copy of The Piano a while back, so, at the risk of some "What the hell was I thinking of?" embarrassment, I'll try to give it another look.

Popcorn contender: In The Line of Fire.

Slightly guilty vote for The Fugitive.

Haven't actually seen Remains of the Day, does Anthony Hopkins leap off a dam at any point in it?

into DDL's arms.

Have never seen Remains of the Day mostly because I've always kind of meant to read the novel.

In the name of the father for me

Fugitive by a fucking mile. There's not one bad SECOND in that movie.

that's boring

how is the Fugitive sequel? always meant to see that but imagined it might be awful.

US Marshals is horrendous.

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The Piano, Jan Chapman (Miramax)

Took me a second to realize I hadn't made a long series of typos with that name.

Schindler, pretty comfortably

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though The Fugitive is probably the king of run across it on tv and drop what you're doing and watch the whole thing movies

al leong otm in coining phrase "levinsonned out" and also about the boxer being better than ITNOTF, which is still very good

man i guess i need to see itnotf again, remember thinking it was a good tv movie that happened to have a few really good actors in it at the time. voted schindler's, curious how it holds up. i remember at the time gushing to my friends 'i have seen the future of acting and his name is ralph fiennes' lol. at the time i was outraged now merely annoyed by the age of innocence's absence, last great scorsese movie and maybe my fave day-lewis performance. lol apparently mrs doubtfire won best picture (comedy) at the golden globes.

Best Motion Picture - Comedy/Musical
Mrs. Doubtfire
Dave
Much Ado About Nothing
Sleepless in Seattle
Strictly Ballroom

A weak lot, and particularly inexcusable seeing as how their nomination of Stockard Channing in the Best Actress (Musical/Comedy) reveals that they were aware of Six Degrees of Separation.

ITNOTF is to me one of those sneaky flix that seems a bit generic (mostly w the courtroom shiz) but has a lot to say abt innocent folks caught up in the middle of a meat grinder of a conflict. obv sheridan hates the british govt's actions but he's got little love for the IRA's violent wing. when violent events occur in his films they're usually really grim and joyless moments coming from the worst impulses.

Short Cuts is among the three best movies he ever made fuiud.

lol

The Piano leaves itself open to mockery because of the Symbolism and the Piano and the Natives and the Dark Eroticism of the Jungle and the Sea ... but I find it's still capable of being genuinely troubling, even if you've zoned out of it for five minutes refusing to take it seriously, you find it's still going on with itself when you refocus

The part where the Natives don't understand that they're watching a pantomime of Bluebeard and try and kill him, despite relying on the idea of Maoris not understanding representation (any historical source for this?) did make me think, ah, I wonder if this salty tale of archetypes is to real sex as the pantomime bluebeard within the film is to the sex lives of the characters, or something, i.e. is the film aware of its salty tale qualities

I'm still surprised The Age of Innocence got snubbed.

Academy loves corsets.

i aint seen the Piano since the 90s... all i remember is keiteldong. harvey keitel in the 90s would make a great poll btw.

i remember kael saying about DDL in AoI that he was too good an actor to just watch him doing anguished, i kinda agree

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Cool/LOL

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/David_Janssen_The_Fugitive_final_episode_1967.JPG

Voters should watch ITNOTF.

postlethwaites good in it, but it's p lame. the call back of the "fouled the ball" line is just awful, drippy hollywood garbage

Emma Thompson's scenes are closer to Hollywood.

I remember ITNOTF as the "worthy" film everyone liked but no one particularly wanted to watch.

buzza

I didn't particularly want to watch a remake of a David Janssen TV series.

can't wait for the harry o movie