'True Stories': Dud or David Byrne's Death Sentence

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Disgusting bullshit. You'd think I could get off the couch and turn the channel. Also, thanks for 'radiohead' asshole. Christ.

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 5 October 2002 08:42 (twenty-three years ago)

what?
wheres your remote!!

donna (donna), Saturday, 5 October 2002 09:17 (twenty-three years ago)

you should have a tv like mine.
it changes channels on its own.
usually during the best bit of something i am watching.

donna (donna), Saturday, 5 October 2002 09:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Sounds like watching TV with my girlfriend's roommates.

Andrew (enneff), Saturday, 5 October 2002 09:25 (twenty-three years ago)

The scene where there looking at the tabloids and yukking it up is the most cringeworthy thing on celluloid, ever. I can't believe I paid to see this in a theater! I think that was the year I went to see everything that came out, though.

Arthur (Arthur), Saturday, 5 October 2002 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, I was sleepy and lazy (Davey Byrne shoutout!) and the remote was on the other side of the room. I was watching John Carpenter's The Thing (Mark S shoutout!) right before it, and I kept hoping David Byrne's head would turn into an alien spider and crawl offscreen where I couldn't hear it talking in that goddamned retarded nine year old boy scout voice, it was like the end of Mork and Mindy where Mork describes our crazy earth ways the his doubting elders. What I really hate is the air of bemusement/sarcasm/wonder towards 'real' America, I'd be forgiveable if it was from an actual New Yorker because then it'd just be fish-outta-water Big Apple attitude, but instead it's a suburbanite affecting as a New Yorker affecting at observant of middle-American culture that's 'alien' to them (my ass). I much preferred the flyover attitude of "The Big Country", it was honest. This was crap. The cover of Time magazine for this.

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 5 October 2002 16:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, exactly, it just seemed so smug and snide and lacking in any kind of affection yet so utterly predictable and cliched coming from the guy that wrote "Don't Worry About the Government".

Arthur (Arthur), Saturday, 5 October 2002 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I couldn't stand it or the soundtrack album, and it pretty much made me not like the band anymore.

Sean (Sean), Saturday, 5 October 2002 16:32 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
Ah, well, to each his own, I found it to be one of the best movies I've seen. The dinner scene at the Culvers was spectacular, summed up the 80's in an amusing and creative way, you call that predictable? I've never seen a movie like it, far from predictable, in my opinion.

polly fenwick, Thursday, 11 March 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

For real, y'all have too much hate in your hearts. This movie is sweet. The kids singing "Hey Now" is awesome! As is Pops Staples as weirdo voodoo mang!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 11 March 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the album too! "Puzzlin' Evidence" is great! As is "Papa Legba"! And "Wild Wild Life"!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 11 March 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay hate! Oh wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 March 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

...it's a suburbanite affecting as a New Yorker affecting at observant of middle-American culture that's 'alien' to them...

Baltimore /= suburban

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 11 March 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't necessarily call it a "classic," but it wasn't entirely awful. For a start, Spalding Grey's in it! Soundtrack is largely dud, though.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

There's one scene where DB is "driving" in the countryside and his steering wheel is painfully obviously not attached to anything. For some reason that shit makes me laugh my nuts off every time.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 11 March 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I really liked it.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 11 March 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I loved it in middle school and still feel a lingering affection for it. Though yeah, lots of dead spots now. John Goodman's the shizzle in it.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 11 March 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I love that even after playing all kinds of hardcore wackos for years since then, because of this role I still think of John Goodman as overwhelmingly twee.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 11 March 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Gets the top prize for "Lease Expected Fart Joke in Film"

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Thursday, 11 March 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The movie is pretty mediocre, but the album is great.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Friday, 12 March 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
Even though David Bynre's acting is rudimentary, I still think that the film is ace and the soundtrack is brilliant. City of Dreams and Papa Legba are the best. He shouldn't have stoped making movies.

Beckie Greenfield, Sunday, 16 May 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i agree with becki. davids acting was fairly rudimentary, however i loved it none-the-less. if only i was a girl...*sigh* hes so sexy.

papa legba was my alltime favourite :)

uncledunc, Monday, 24 May 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
the 'Hey Now' video... ha! ha! ... whhhhhattttttttt????? yeaaahhhhhhh!!!

awesome movie. awesome soundtrack.

jbweldisjoe, Thursday, 27 April 2006 05:40 (nineteen years ago)

Now look.

Since when did rock/pop bands ever make (i.e. produce) good films?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 27 April 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Stop Making Sense

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 27 April 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

D Byrne's schtick only got schtickificated after hepsters decided it was schtick.

Every Time I Open Up My Mouth All Bullets Spit Out: Bang! (noodle vague), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

Since when did rock/pop bands ever make (i.e. produce) good films?

a hard day's night? i guess they didn't own and distribute the film themselves, if that's what you mean.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

Exackly J.D.

Byrne = hated by noobs for doing stuff noobs think other bands is cool for doing.

Every Time I Open Up My Mouth All Bullets Spit Out: Bang! (noodle vague), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

I meant as in 'scripted and made', as you say, JD

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 April 2006 05:48 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...
There's one scene where DB is "driving" in the countryside and his steering wheel is painfully obviously not attached to anything. For some reason that shit makes me laugh my nuts off every time.

"That's some fancy driving"

True Stories is totally fantastic, u r all gay

webber (webber), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 06:38 (eighteen years ago)

The hate for True Stories on this thread is the only disgusting bullshit! True Stories is fantastic! We don't want freedom, meow meow meow meow!

Ferjitsu Noodleski (Ferjitsu_Noodleski), Thursday, 16 November 2006 02:31 (eighteen years ago)

TS is bullshit, I am gay, and this thread should be locked for gross incompetence.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 November 2006 02:45 (eighteen years ago)

hey now!

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 16 November 2006 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

nine months pass...

Didn't really like this movie, but I am incapable of hating John Goodman.

Abbott, Friday, 14 September 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

I don't really like it, but I have a huge soft spot for it.

When I first lived on my own, there was a good two week period where I would watch True Stories and invariably fall asleep without seeing the ending until I finally finished it.

Also, I always think about Byrne's stuff coming from a character invented by a character invented by David Byrne, so I can't get pissy about the "Ain't Middle America Weird" vibe.

en i see kay, Friday, 14 September 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

(also I was pretty stoned at the time)

en i see kay, Friday, 14 September 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

Album, though, I'm all about.

en i see kay, Friday, 14 September 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

And there is the fancy driving. Shit, do I like this movie? I'm all confused now.

en i see kay, Friday, 14 September 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

Abbott otm

ghost rider, Friday, 14 September 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

David Byrne is inextricably tied up w/Windows Media Player in my mind.

I heard about his Power Point art thingding he was doing a few years ago. Cliche to say, but you know I could do that. I could do that AWESOME. It's one of those things you have to be famous to do (and get anyone interested, anyway).

Abbott, Friday, 14 September 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

I gave my uncle the book of that PP stuff for Christmas. He was not as interested as he should have been.

I'd totally have the WMP connection if it weren't for one of my friends playing Look Into The Eyeball a whole lot in my car.

en i see kay, Friday, 14 September 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

Fudge, they published a BOOK of it?

Someday my prints will come.

Abbott, Friday, 14 September 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

nine months pass...

The hate here is way outta line. No, it's not a great movie. The music stinks by Talking Heads standards, and the music video bits, apart from "Wild Wild Life," are usually godawful. ("Love for Sale" is nigh unwatchable.) I wish the movie hadn't have bothered with any of that. But what's left over has moments of total brilliance. Like Byrne's Cliff's Notes history of Texas at the beginning. Or the cinematography, which often wouldn't be out of place in an episode of Twin Peaks.

http://tittysprinkles.net/images/true-stories1.jpg http://tittysprinkles.net/images/true-stories2.jpg

Byrne in his ridiculous rented red ragtop

http://tittysprinkles.net/images/true-stories3.jpg

The fashion show

and of course Spalding Grey: "Economics has become a spiritual thing."

kenan, Sunday, 13 July 2008 21:05 (seventeen years ago)

last two pics there:

http://tittysprinkles.net/images/true-stories4.jpg

http://tittysprinkles.net/images/true-stories5.jpg

kenan, Sunday, 13 July 2008 21:06 (seventeen years ago)

Fashion show was great, it's like the "Girl for All Seasons" sequence in Grease 2.

Abbott, Sunday, 13 July 2008 22:35 (seventeen years ago)

Or the "Beautiful Girl" number in Singin' in the Rain. Only with the outfits getting *way* more ridiculous.

kenan, Monday, 14 July 2008 01:09 (seventeen years ago)

i've never seen this. it sorta amazes me that talking heads were ever big enough in the '80s that byrne could make a film - seems like something that would never happen nowadays.

haitch, Monday, 14 July 2008 01:29 (seventeen years ago)

...it's a suburbanite affecting as a New Yorker affecting at observant of middle-American culture that's 'alien' to them...

Baltimore /= suburban

-- nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:55 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

Arbutus /= Baltimore

some dude, Monday, 14 July 2008 03:00 (seventeen years ago)

I got a coupla girlfriends from Arbutus who'd claw yer eyes out for that, hon.

Three Word Username, Monday, 14 July 2008 07:52 (seventeen years ago)

If Arbutus wasn't situated adjacent to Baltimore, it would be much less like a suburb and more like the sort of rural small town portrayed in the movie.

I think I'd watch it again to get the good quotes out of it and to see "Papa Legba" as sung by Pops Staples, which is so much better than on the album.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 14 July 2008 12:31 (seventeen years ago)

I like the picture quite a lot. Best moment: Byrne driving down the highway identifying types of driver, and saying disbelievingly - 'and ... the *weaver !!*'

also I like the non-sequitur in the same scene when he cries - 'some folk round here - eaten dinner already!!'

the pinefox, Monday, 14 July 2008 12:32 (seventeen years ago)

I am fond of the soundtrack also, but mainly for side 2 which I used to think was side 1, and is to my mind much the best.

the pinefox, Monday, 14 July 2008 12:32 (seventeen years ago)

five months pass...

this rules

"There's a lady who just stays in bed all day. She's not sick, shes just rich enough to do that - wouldn't you?"

the next grozart, Monday, 5 January 2009 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

four years pass...

Always had it in the back of my mind that I'd see this someday--I believe Kael gave it a generally good review--but never have. I went to talk on Nashville tonight, and the guy who was giving it devoted the last half-hour to True Stories as a mostly apolitical extension of Nashville into the Reagan years. Problem was, 20 minutes of that consisted of excerpts. So I've now seen almost a quarter of the film, not exactly something I wanted.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 04:01 (eleven years ago)

It's a pretty good movie from what I remember. I like the scene when the dad is at the dinner table describing some boring business thing or whatever and he's using food to do it and the way everything is lit and shot is just magical. Also the crazy fashion show.

But yeah it does feel like a movie an art school drop out would make about small town America.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 04:07 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e854KvduZAg

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 09:12 (eleven years ago)

There's somehting about this film that reminds me of DFW's The Pale King quite a lot.

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 11:32 (eleven years ago)

My friends and I went through a phase where we'd get stoned and watch this once a week or so. I was so disappointed that the soundtrack had David Byrne singing instead of the actors from the film.

peace on earth and mercy mild (how's life), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 11:48 (eleven years ago)

They talked about releasing a "Actors singing the songs" album, but that was probably one album too many at least (after the TH one *and* the soundtrack one)

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 12:08 (eleven years ago)

five years pass...

WOW @ the packaging of the CC edition: http://criterionforum.org/DVD-packaging/true-stories-blu-ray/the-criterion-collection/2045

The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 16:50 (six years ago)

I love Pops Staples in this

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 17:06 (six years ago)

I love Pops Staples in anything

but this movie doesn't really work

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 17:07 (six years ago)

Yeah, I was sleepy and lazy (Davey Byrne shoutout.) and the remote was on the other side of the room. I was watching John Carpenter's The Thing (Mark S shoutout.) right before it, and I kept hoping David Byrne's head would turn into an alien spider and crawl offscreen where I couldn't hear it talking in that goddamned retarded nine year old boy scout voice, it was like the end of Mork and Mindy where Mork describes our crazy earth ways the his doubting elders. What I really hate is the air of bemusement/sarcasm/wonder towards 'real' America, I'd be forgiveable if it was from an actual New Yorker because then it'd just be fish-outta-water Big Apple attitude, but instead it's a suburbanite affecting as a New Yorker affecting at observant of middle-American culture that's 'alien' to them (my ass). I much preferred the flyover attitude of "The Big Country", it was honest. This was crap. The cover of Time magazine for this.

― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, October 5, 2002 1

booming post imo

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 17:16 (six years ago)

http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1986/1101861027_400.jpg

Swell Reagan cameo.

The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 17:25 (six years ago)

I remember that issue v well

it was p unusual for Time to go that hard for a pop culture guy

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 17:30 (six years ago)

this movie doesn't really work true but it's so fun and the songs are so much better than they are on the album

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 17:31 (six years ago)

totally agree. I haven’t seen it in a million years but whether it works or not is inconsequential to me at least.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:23 (six years ago)

John Goodman was revelatory i thought

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:38 (six years ago)

I'm closer to Sparkle Motion's judgment: an inconsequential project that I convinced myself I loved during the peak of my Heads mania. I tend to forget that "Wild Wild Life" was much bigger than its middling chart position suggests.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:39 (six years ago)

Goodman is v good in this. He seems weirdly under-used/undervalued as an actor to me. It's like outside of the Coen Bros no directors really take advantage of how great he is.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:41 (six years ago)

so many dumb family/kids movies on his CV. maybe that's just what he wanted to do, idk

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:43 (six years ago)

David Byrne's death sentence? i'll vote for that please

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:48 (six years ago)

Goodman is v good in this. He seems weirdly under-used/undervalued as an actor to me. It's like outside of the Coen Bros no directors really take advantage of how great he is.

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, December 4, 2018 11:41 AM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's really wonderful in speed racer so i'm guessing the wachowskis knew too

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:58 (six years ago)

...

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:59 (six years ago)

an actor has to pay da bills

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:00 (six years ago)

as evinced Tuesdays at 7pm on ABC

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:02 (six years ago)

dan connor is one of the greatest tv characters/performances of our time tho

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:06 (six years ago)

agreed but he seems to be sleepwalking through this incarnation

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:09 (six years ago)

...

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, December 4, 2018 11:59 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

an actor has to pay da bills

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, December 4, 2018 12:00 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh so you've both seen it

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:09 (six years ago)

my post was aimed at the 'bad kids movies' comment

also one heavy guy per generation makes a bad Babe Ruth movie

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:19 (six years ago)

sorry morbs i figured you weren't addressing me directly there but only after the fact <3

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:20 (six years ago)

you couldn't pay me to watch any more of the wachowskis garbage

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:20 (six years ago)

ok!

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:21 (six years ago)

but yeah i am not going to watch serious cinemaaaah adaps of Speed Racer or Miami Vice while there are still Ford movies i haven't seen

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:26 (six years ago)

Yeah, Six Days Seven Nights was a classic

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:32 (six years ago)

the Miami Vice movie isn't even that good, I also recently learned a lot of that has to do with Jamie Foxx (and Mann):

Several crew members criticized Mann's decisions during production, which featured sudden script changes, filming in unsafe weather conditions, and choosing locations that "even the police avoid, drafting gang members to work as security".

Foxx was also characterized as unpleasant to work with. He refused to fly commercially, forcing Universal to give him a private jet. He also wouldn't participate in scenes on boats or planes. After gunshots were fired on set in the Dominican Republic on October 24, 2005, Foxx packed up and refused to return; this forced Mann to re-write the film's ending, which some crew members characterized as less dramatic than the original. Foxx, who won an Academy Award after signing to do Miami Vice, was also reputed to complain about co-star Farrell's larger salary, which Foxx felt didn't reflect his new status as an Oscar winner; consequently, reports Slate: "Foxx got a big raise while Farrell took a bit of a cut." Slate also reported that Foxx demanded top billing after winning an Oscar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Vice_(film)#Filming

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:20 (six years ago)

Miami Vice movie is fine. I disliked it in 2006 because I walked out of the theater and I was still in Miami.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:22 (six years ago)

lmao

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:26 (six years ago)

lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:40 (six years ago)

is it standard for big hollywood directors to fly commercial?

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:46 (six years ago)


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