https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjKO10hKtYw
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago)
More than anything else, I want to see how they mess up "giant lizard destroys city."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago)
Why would they need to airdrop in soldiers to fight a giant lizard? You'd think it'd be preoccupied enough with destroying the city and eating trains and stuff that it wouldn't notice five or six lil' dudes sneaking up.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 19:36 (eleven years ago)
Anyway, I'm excited, because I love Godzilla. I loved "Monsters," too, which shows the director knows how to write for and direct, you know, actual people.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 19:37 (eleven years ago)
Could be alright.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago)
Although until not five minutes ago I was convinced that Gareth Edwards was the guy who directed The Raid. Turns out that's Gareth Evans. I haven't seen Monsters.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago)
"Monsters" is really good, imo. Totally not what you'd expect from a movie called "Monsters" that does have monsters in it.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago)
My flatmate's claiming it's shit right this minute. I'll watch it and make my own mind up.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago)
Is your flatmate 15? 'Cause yeah, I can imagine a kid picking out a movie called "Monsters" and hating it.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 19:52 (eleven years ago)
Haha, he's 34 but his taste in movies is similar to that of a 15 year old.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago)
that film was really good iirc.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago)
Godzilla after Cloverfield after 9-11
Interesting aesthetics in that trailer – godzilla moving about in smoke and darkness, actually hiding in it despite his size – some of the wreckage looked realistically done, I saw a plane being chucked around a runway and a train?
Bryan Cranston?
I suppose the challenge for a special effects disaster/monster film now is that everyone knows you can make millions of tanks/spaceships/missiles fly around the screen, we're all numb to any CGI spectacle that relies too much on scale and ignores details
― cardamon, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 02:50 (eleven years ago)
dang this actualy looks good
― Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:54 (eleven years ago)
i loved monsters.open of my fave movies in the genre.
― mark e, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:28 (eleven years ago)
Attaching smoke and flares to your special ops guys before parachuting them into the city seems like a the ideal way to turn them into airborne Godzillasnacks to me.
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:49 (eleven years ago)
Another entry in the dark, roiling, cgi clouds school of film-making.
― how's life, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:55 (eleven years ago)
Lotta imaginary airborne particulate matter in Hollywood these days.
― how's life, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:57 (eleven years ago)
Trailer does not get me excited. It looks like your standard Bruckheimer/Bay/Emmerich summer atrocity.
― zanarkand bozo (abanana), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:01 (eleven years ago)
agree
― Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:15 (eleven years ago)
Only the fact that the Monsters guy is doing it has me curious. At least Big G looks more like his classic self in this.
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago)
In some ways it was genius for Toho to eventually turn Godzilla into a semi good guy. That way he got to destroy cities while also destroying other giant monsters, yet survive to star in sequels. The roteness of modern takes on "giant monster destroys city" is not the destruction, per se, but waiting for the inevitable "aha, that's how we kill it!" moment. Which is hard to care about, considering it's preceded by watching said monster destroy things in awesome fashion. Might as well have a character declare "aha, that's how we kill it, and make the movie stop moving!"
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago)
What about that "she is just protecting her eggs" moment?
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:32 (eleven years ago)
― zanarkand bozo (abanana), Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:01 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark
disagree, not enough money shots of buildings being leveled or people narrowly outrunning the earth crumbling beneath them like they're on a universal studios ride; michael bay's HALO jumping military guys would be buff scowling badasses, instead the emphasis is on their fear and terror
― Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 22:34 (eleven years ago)
I have to say, I started this thread with a certain level of dismissiveness, but now I'm kinda looking forward to it.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago)
I'm on board
― it's going to be a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D5PtyrewSs (latebloomer), Friday, 13 December 2013 01:20 (eleven years ago)
Godzilla always ruled because he was a role model for fat, pear-shaped schlubs everywhere. You can change the world while still being sluggish and having horrible breath.
― it's going to be a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D5PtyrewSs (latebloomer), Friday, 13 December 2013 01:22 (eleven years ago)
Or maybe being so big you knock shit down just by turning around? I don't think Godzilla can see his feet, either.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 December 2013 01:27 (eleven years ago)
And don't even get me started on this pudge monster:http://www.wiredmomma.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/godzilla.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 December 2013 01:28 (eleven years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/slq3w3Sl.jpg
Does this Godzilla seem even more giant than previous Godzillas? And also, would a creature that size even be able to exist in an environment with Earth's gravity?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 20 February 2014 22:26 (eleven years ago)
Monsters is a great, great movie. So I'm looking forward to this on that alone.
― akm, Thursday, 20 February 2014 22:35 (eleven years ago)
And also, would a creature that size even be able to exist in an environment with Earth's gravity?
Probably not. As I vaguely recall from my biology and physics, if you double the size of something, its muscle strength squares, but its volume/mass cubes, so the muscles are no longer strong enough to support the body (this is why insects/spiders don't come in sizes bigger than they currently do--if they got much bigger their exoskeleton weighs more than their limbs can support). Given the vaguely humanoid sjhape of Godzilla, he'd be fucked.
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 20 February 2014 23:50 (eleven years ago)
But yeah, Monsters was wonderful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpc53FvcZ4c
― AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 20 February 2014 23:51 (eleven years ago)
hahaha
― faith driven consumer (latebloomer), Friday, 21 February 2014 01:27 (eleven years ago)
that trailer looks amazing up top. never saw the 1998 one. i'm guessing it wasn't much good?
― piscesx, Friday, 21 February 2014 03:43 (eleven years ago)
You guess correct. It's not even bad in a fun way.
― Simon H., Friday, 21 February 2014 03:52 (eleven years ago)
the way the 98 one bombed was wonderful
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 21 February 2014 04:24 (eleven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIu85WQTPRc
― AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 21:10 (eleven years ago)
If you would have told me back in, say 2001, that we'd have another Godzilla reboot starring Malcolm's dad and the Olsen's twins kid sister...
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 21:16 (eleven years ago)
this looks great.
― ryan, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 21:20 (eleven years ago)
Looks surprisingly good.
― lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 21:24 (eleven years ago)
Like the use of Ligeti. Hoping this turns out to be a Rise of the Apes-style classy update.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:00 (eleven years ago)
Interest building....
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:03 (eleven years ago)
Does Godzilla make airplanes fall out of the sky or something?
― jmm, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:04 (eleven years ago)
why does the statue of liberty look so fake
― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:09 (eleven years ago)
did you see the desert mountains in the background
― AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:22 (eleven years ago)
i know it was going for a way different vibe, but i hope this can provide the monster-destroying-city action that Pacific Rim was woefully short on.
― ryan, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:29 (eleven years ago)
commercial's great, that's for sure. better to only hint at the monster (like with the rising ocean), or show it for a second or two.
30 years later, and the techniques used in jaws still hold true.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:31 (eleven years ago)
looks great. don't know why but remakes of franchise movies like this bother me so much less than remakes of stand alone films (point break ,oldboy etc)
― TheMenzies, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:35 (eleven years ago)
I like they they've kept him tied (it seems) to the post-WW2 nuclear age.
― ryan, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:38 (eleven years ago)
I massively prefer the b&w mist
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 17:15 (one year ago)
That might be one where I slightly prefer the black and white version, but I didn't have a big problem with the color version.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 17:23 (one year ago)
Okay so I've seen the new Monsterverse one and SIIIIIIGH
My happily spoiler filled rant follows!
* First, an immediate breaking point for a lot of you: GODZILLA IS BARELY IN THIS. Maybe 15% of screentime or so? A more accurate title is _KONG (feat Godzilla): SOME BULLSHIT_ * Said ape's personal problems are the core of the movie and the first plot point involves whether his dental insurance plan covers tooth replacements. (I am only slightly kidding.) And indeed, a good chunk of his whole arc can best be called 'divorced/widowed/old dude hangs around with a young punk who he teaches the ways of goodness to as part of setting him straight given the bad crowd he's fallen into.' Imagine _Gran Torino_, but without the Torino, and only in ape noises. You will feel your mind melt into mush.* The most 'I guess I didn't expect that' moment is when a typical-these-days sloooow motion goodie vs baddie personal clash moment is ridiculously interrupted. But it's still not that great.* The implied body count in the film if you count all the various buildings smashed to bits across the globe is likely in the hundreds of thousands. To say that none of this has the slightest hint of resonance and overwhelming, shocking loss in comparison to something like, I dunno, let me pick something at random, _Godzilla Minus One_ maybe, is to understate. (I grant this is feature not bug with so many of the movies and this new one is long in the works and etc. etc. but...ya know?)* KINDA speaking of which, a quick sequence in which three bridges are smashed in succession with people on them, well, they couldn't plan for that being all too resonant this week, but having a famed Muslim-majority city get violently trashed...well...ANYWAY MOVING ON.* The Golden Earring "Twilight Zone" sync, I did like that, I haven't heard that in a while and I always liked that song, and it probably helped it was during the most visually interesting and weird part of the film. The Kiss, Foreigner and Badfinger drops, eh.* At one point Kong and Godzilla shout at each other across the entire length of the Mediterranean and then one gets to the other five minutes later. Somehow, it is all very unimpressive and uninteresting!* Various actors are on screen and they do act. I have nothing to say about any of them. (Except Rachel House, who always rules, but is given little to do except run around a headquarters and say things urgently, but awesome glasses, though.)* Look, the end fight is okay enough, I guess. But that's faint praise. * This is such a dumbass, haphazard 'franchise.' Even though it wasn't perfect or anything, I have to give a certain credit to Matt Fraction and crew for using the _Monarch_ series to try and retcon the previous four films into a vaguely consistent story instead of one that stumbles from situation to situation at best. But this new film doesn't help things any and probably just makes it all worse again.* There is no easter egg or anything after the end credits. Just go home. Better yet, don't go.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 March 2024 00:59 (one year ago)
Thank you for your service.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 March 2024 01:20 (one year ago)
The advantage of a monthly Alamo pass that pays for itself pretty quickly is that I don't feel like I've shelled out for this thing.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 March 2024 01:24 (one year ago)
ugh that sounds like more of the same from the 2014 Evans and 2019 Dougherty movies. cosigning josh thank you for yr service it sounds dire how hard is it to make a fucking monster movie ABOUT THE GODDAMN MONSTERS
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 March 2024 01:30 (one year ago)
Especially after Minus One got it done.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 March 2024 01:43 (one year ago)
I do still hold Gareth Evans personally responsible for this infernal trend
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 March 2024 01:50 (one year ago)
It's never too late to blame Zack Snyder for everything being in slo-mo as well.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 March 2024 10:37 (one year ago)
I'd put that more down to The Matrix (in terms of popularising it over the brim)
― nashwan, Friday, 29 March 2024 12:50 (one year ago)
Wonder why del Toro wasted so much time with Pacific Rim, let alone Frankenstein and Pinocchio, when he probably could have made a really awesome (American) Godzilla.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 March 2024 15:28 (one year ago)
wtf Pacific Rim was great
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 March 2024 21:18 (one year ago)
I thought it was fine and saw it once.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 March 2024 21:20 (one year ago)
I don't recall it bringing anything to the table that would not have been brought by Godzilla.
i saw it MANY times so i think i am qualified to disagree with “it was fine” :D
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 March 2024 21:21 (one year ago)
Many!!! Hats off.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 March 2024 21:24 (one year ago)
I recall Charlie from Sunny In Philadelphia getting swallowed by a monster? Also, robots controlled by stair masters, something like that.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 March 2024 21:27 (one year ago)
Seen Pacific Rim maybe three times it's as fun as Del Toro Giant Mechs vs Kaiju could be. I like the flawed yet effective-above-its-weight Edwards-directed Godzilla also though.
― nashwan, Friday, 29 March 2024 22:32 (one year ago)
Edwards has a gift for big imagery that often only shows in moments, but they last. Whoever thought up the paratroop drop silhouette moment, whether himself or someone else, had the best brainwave.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 March 2024 23:00 (one year ago)
Godzilla Minus One still isn't streaming and has left theaters; and no streaming date in the forseeable future. I read somewhere the rumor is that there is some IP contract that is keeping it off because of this new shitshow movie.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 29 March 2024 23:18 (one year ago)
Would watch the hell out of a Godzilla vs Big Man Japan franchise flick, otherwise it's a no from me I'm afraid
― carnival of bowls (Matt #2), Friday, 29 March 2024 23:22 (one year ago)
yeah Mr Veg was telling me it was some weird dealwith Showa & Paramount where if Showa releases the movie theatrically Paramount won’t show it on streaming for x amount of time, like a year?idk i may have the details all wrong
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 March 2024 23:33 (one year ago)
Showa meaning Toho? (I mean, Toho is happy to take Warner Bros/Legendary money!)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 March 2024 23:49 (one year ago)
ugh yes toho sry
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 30 March 2024 01:50 (one year ago)
I watched the new one with my 14yo Godzilla suoerfan son. My expectations were near zero, so to that end it surpassed my expectations and was perfectly entertaining, albeit with a low bar. But all of Ned’s comments above are spot on too. Even with the threadbare connections from movie to movie, I just don’t think this franchise can sustain multi-film narrative arc. By now the majority of the film takes place in the fictional Hollow Earth realm, and the human characters are on more or less friendly terms with the titular monsters. There’s just no TERROR. And yeah like Ned said, when the action does take place in recognizable cities, the carnage is so cartoonish it’s totally devoid of any sense of what ought to be inconceivable tragedy.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 30 March 2024 05:03 (one year ago)
Minus One on Netflix!
https://gizmodo.com/godzilla-minus-one-netflix-streaming-1851513563
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 June 2024 22:11 (eleven months ago)
And we have fancy release coming in September:
https://godzilla.com/products/godzilla-minus-one-blu-ray-deluxe-japan-collectors-edition
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 22:10 (ten months ago)
Annnnd here we gohttps://gizmodo.com/takashi-yamazaki-godzilla-minus-one-sequel-new-movie-toho-2000519226
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 November 2024 14:40 (six months ago)
weeee
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 November 2024 14:56 (six months ago)
Pretty lame of them to denigrate the legacy of Godzilla with a sequel.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 November 2024 15:03 (six months ago)
last week was 70 years since the first film
― koogs, Friday, 1 November 2024 15:07 (six months ago)
and has been downhill all the way
― koogs, Friday, 1 November 2024 15:08 (six months ago)
Minus One is back in US cinemas for anniversary reasons this week
― et a earwig (sic), Friday, 1 November 2024 16:45 (six months ago)
Caught the theatrical rerelease of Minus One they're doing to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the Big Guy. (They're also showing it in the Minus Color variation; while I caught both versions in the original runs but won't be able to do Minus Color in theater this time I fear.) While I happily have the fancy-as-hell box that came out which I linked a few posts back, this was the first time I'd rewatched it since the original Minus Color run, and it really does hold up so well. (This time around it struck me how remarkable the music was in the final sequences, that's pure Howard Shore LOTR level stuff.) Also the bonus stuff for this release included the VFX promo reel they submitted for Academy consideration and new interview snippets with Takashi Yamazaki and Kiyoko Shibuya about the whole experience, so catch it if you can.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 November 2024 22:43 (six months ago)
Bunch of nerds were excited about the Criterion release of "Godzilla Vs Biollante." Don't know what I expected, but with the exception of the maybe 10 minutes of the plant monster Biollante (an OK design) it was pretty much garbage. Made me laugh a couple of times, at least, at the shitty '80s espionage plot and gun fights (between people), which were sub A-Team. Acting was bad, dialogue was bad, requisite girl with ESP was bad, flying saucer military weapon was bad. Godzilla writes itself, so why are so many of these movies so bad!?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 22:45 (one month ago)
Biolante is my second favorite in the series!!!
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 00:08 (one month ago)
It's enjoyable when it's not dumb and boring, I guess. Or I should say, it's definitely enjoyable when it is dumb, but like so many Godzilla movies it is shockingly boring. It was almost as if I was watching an alternate cut or something. What do you like so much about it?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 00:12 (one month ago)
Most nerds I know are pissed that Criterion is releasing this, not considered one of the high points of the Heisei era, separately as opposed to doing a box.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 08:40 (one month ago)
hmm nerds i know are psyched for an upgrade but not happy about the dub not being included. and yeah, they want a box!
What do you like so much about it?
the monsters and practical fx, what else??
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 15:55 (one month ago)
the shots of Godzilla emerging from the water in POV view effing rule. the scope and drama of the piece too
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 16:09 (one month ago)
not one i've seen (in last 4 decades at least), but i'd prefer to be able to buy them one at a time rather than in a (pointlessly large) £150 box, especially when i already have 6 of the 13 showa-era films.
the editions i have have both the original japanese and the american cuts, with full commentary. and they were as cheap as chips at the time, like £3 from amazon
Godzilla Raids Again (ntsc)Purchase Date 2011£2.18 + £1.26p+pTotal: £3.44
― koogs, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 16:18 (one month ago)
Hmm, I love me a good man-in-suit Godzilla and models, but I didn't get much in the way of scope or drama. Just a lot of lame commandos running around shooting at each other. Especially this loser:http://i.imgur.com/Zfuy56u.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 16:24 (one month ago)
koogs, the biollante 4k is like 30 pounds so 150 for a Heisei set would actually be a bargain...
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 16:30 (one month ago)
Godzilla v Destoroyah is on for free at my local fleapit the last Sunday this month, celebrating 2 years in business I think (the cinema not Godzilla). Will report back!
― a death in the rhubarb triangle (Matt #2), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 16:33 (one month ago)
The scene that made me laugh is when the soldier in the building shooting the bazooka at Godzilla thinks he's done, but with perfect slow comic timing puppet Godzilla sneaks up on him while he's packing up and then:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9a4GEygDTY
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 16:36 (one month ago)
destroyah friggin RULES x-post
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 17:05 (one month ago)
i love most all of that era tbh
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 18:56 (one month ago)
Which is your favorite?
― Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 18:59 (one month ago)
Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 19:33 (one month ago)
Meantime, the next Monsterverse film is apparently called Godzilla x Kong: Supernova:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa3nW0EYYcQ
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 May 2025 20:57 (two weeks ago)