are youth subcultures dead? & were you ever a mod/rocker/goth/sea-punk etc?

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can genuine youth subcultures still exist given internet age blah blah blah?

do subcultures need to be oppositional to dominant culture to have any meaning?

was the idea of subculture a neo-liberal scam idea imbuing an inflated meaning into what was really just consumerism?

did you, or do you, consider yourself a member of a subculture?

brio, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:11 (eleven years ago)

oh boy.

i like HOOS but this took the cake off my table (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 6 January 2014 17:12 (eleven years ago)

this made me think the whole idea seems pretty bankrupt
http://www.theatlanticcities.com/technology/2013/12/computers-can-now-automatically-stereotype-hipsters-and-bikers/7857/

brio, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:14 (eleven years ago)

I think subcultures can and do exist around shared activities and values, and that maybe they're more real when these tribes of people are united by more than purchasing decisions. But ~internet atomization~ or whatever means anyone can throw around the signifiers of any small community they spent a few minutes reading about--it destroys lots of the barrier to entry for certain subcultures. It makes it easier to define yourself alongside or against groups of people that are now more easily gathered and speaking.

i like HOOS but this took the cake off my table (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 6 January 2014 17:17 (eleven years ago)

idk

i like HOOS but this took the cake off my table (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 6 January 2014 17:19 (eleven years ago)

oh boy.

― i like HOOS but this took the cake off my table (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, January 6, 2014 12:12 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

Hungry4Ass, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:20 (eleven years ago)

bronies

mh, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:20 (eleven years ago)

well there seem to be a lot of the ones now where they dress up in costumes

j., Monday, 6 January 2014 17:21 (eleven years ago)

hoos, are you a member of the anarchist subculture?

Mordy , Monday, 6 January 2014 17:21 (eleven years ago)

bronies and that sort of thing seems like a self-consciously ironic absurdist parody of a subculture maybe?

brio, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:23 (eleven years ago)

bronies are for real, I don't think they get irony

mh, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:23 (eleven years ago)

ibrony

brio, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:24 (eleven years ago)

briony

Mmm yes hello (crüt), Monday, 6 January 2014 17:26 (eleven years ago)

hoos, are you a member of the anarchist subculture?

― Mordy , Monday, January 6, 2014 5:21 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah i would say i was "in" for a while (invites to secret meetings! generalizing misdeeds!) but not these days, what with me selling out and all. it helps when you live in a park.

i like HOOS but this took the cake off my table (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 6 January 2014 17:28 (eleven years ago)

wtf is this "sea-punk" shit, all Google gives me is fashion and tumblrs

sleeve, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:31 (eleven years ago)

yes, that is correct

mh, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:31 (eleven years ago)

yup

i think it was more or less a prank

brio, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:33 (eleven years ago)

is there such thing as an adult subculture?

Mordy , Monday, 6 January 2014 17:34 (eleven years ago)

did hoos quantum leap into this thread

r|t|c, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:36 (eleven years ago)

to flag post what once went wrong

r|t|c, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:38 (eleven years ago)

did hoos quantum leap into this thread

― r|t|c, Monday, January 6, 2014 5:36 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i actually thought about posting the gif

i like HOOS but this took the cake off my table (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 6 January 2014 17:45 (eleven years ago)

i'm lost

brio, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:58 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v4zCHRf8Ro

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 January 2014 17:59 (eleven years ago)

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/01/male-fans-made-bettie-page-a-star-but-female-fans-made-her-an-icon/282794/

“To me, Bettie was a gateway into subcultures like rockabilly and burlesque, which are very body-positive environments to women with ample curves who want to celebrate their bodies,” Pumphrey says.

j., Monday, 6 January 2014 18:01 (eleven years ago)

oh god, the rockabilly and/or burlesque thing is definitely real

mh, Monday, 6 January 2014 18:41 (eleven years ago)

yes

no

no

no

Hungry4Sassafrass (Aimless), Monday, 6 January 2014 18:44 (eleven years ago)

rockabilly/burlesque seems like the retirement home of subcultures, the off-ramp to "cool" adulthood taken by generations now of former punk rock/skinhead/metalhead whatever kids

brio, Monday, 6 January 2014 18:57 (eleven years ago)

don't forget ska

mh, Monday, 6 January 2014 19:03 (eleven years ago)

A couple of times a year i walk past a queue of hundreds of white teenagers in impeccable Japanese Gothic-Lolita drag waiting to see a vis kei band in the middle of London and it reminds me that internet has opened up so many new avenues for people looking for a youth sub-culture to fit in to.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Monday, 6 January 2014 19:17 (eleven years ago)

rockabilly/burlesque seems like the retirement home of subcultures, the off-ramp to "cool" adulthood taken by generations now of former punk rock/skinhead/metalhead whatever kids

This is so otm, and I want to share it on facebook, but I don't want my friends this applies to declaring war on me.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 6 January 2014 19:21 (eleven years ago)

in fairness, classic 50's rock n roller does age better than some other post-metal/punk etc. styles

http://images3.mtv.com/shared/promoimages/bands/m/metallica/ulrich_lars/281x211.jpg?width=281&height=211

brio, Monday, 6 January 2014 19:25 (eleven years ago)

I remember being really confused when I went to a psychobilly show at like age 18 expecting a bunch of half-fed punk snots and finding a bunch of people that looked like parents in costume.

i like HOOS but this took the cake off my table (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 6 January 2014 19:33 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXkfsACXZq0

Can One Hear the Shape of a Ron Decline Bottle? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 January 2014 19:42 (eleven years ago)


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