How many criminals do you know?

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I leave how you define a 'crime' to your discretion.

But remember, discretion is the better part of valour.

Poll Results

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10+ 13
1 3
2 3
3 2
0 1
5 1
4 0
6-9 0


c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:02 (eleven years ago)

I'm going to define "crime" as "anything illegal", which basically means everyone I know who either drives or walks in the city of Boston is a criminal

SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 31 January 2014 21:07 (eleven years ago)

If I include the young people I used to work with? Too many to count.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Friday, 31 January 2014 21:08 (eleven years ago)

I been in sugban penal 2...3 times hexy? and lemme tell you I ain't seen no ILX criminal half so mean as your damn self *spits*

141 Jute Gyte - Discontinuities 142 drake - nothing was the same (imago), Friday, 31 January 2014 21:12 (eleven years ago)

Civil offenses that are punishable solely by fines, such as littering, parking in a loading zone, or jaywalking, don't qualify as "crimes" in my opinion. To rise to a "crime" the offense must at least be defined as a misdemeanor and have a potential jail sentence attached, such as disorderly conduct, possession of a controlled substance, or failure to obey an officer. Otherwise, every adult I know has engaged in criminal behavior, including me.

As it is, possession of a controlled substance (at some point in their life) is still going to qualify the great majority of them anyway. Probably not my mom, though.

Aimless, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:42 (eleven years ago)

are we talking convicted criminals? cuz yeah like DJP otherwise pretty much everybody I know breaks the law on the reg

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 January 2014 21:48 (eleven years ago)

u mean like jaywalking?

flopson, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:50 (eleven years ago)

On April 5, 2010, Philadelphia decriminalized cannabis. Possession of 30 grams or less is punishable by a $200 fine for first time offenders and a $300 fine for all others. For possession of more than 30 grams, the punishment is unchanged.[67] In other parts of Pennsylvania, possession of a small amount of marijuana can still result in stiff penalties, including jail time, lengthy probation terms and extensive fines.

Mordy , Friday, 31 January 2014 21:52 (eleven years ago)

u mean like jaywalking?

no I mean like "controlled substances" + drinking and driving

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 January 2014 21:54 (eleven years ago)

what's the meaning of crime? is it criminals robbing innocent motherfuckers everytime?

flopson, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:54 (eleven years ago)

everyone you know drinks and drives regularly?

flopson, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:55 (eleven years ago)

think we all know who the real criminal is

c21m50nh3x460n

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Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:56 (eleven years ago)

The problem with having a strict definition of crime is that people's view on it varies wildly.

For example, http://www.threefeloniesaday.com posits that everyone has committed a felony.

I didn't want to narrow it down too much. Plus, decrimilising cannabis in one state and making it a crime at a federal level creates exactly the ambiguity that I'm after. How is it possible to live in a world (or country) where action A is legal and illegal at the same time?

Some may reduce it to a moral issue (perhaps sidestepping ethics), but this has issues of its own.

c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 31 January 2014 22:10 (eleven years ago)

so deep

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 22:11 (eleven years ago)

*plunged to mariana trench depths*

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 22:11 (eleven years ago)

u really told him

Mordy , Friday, 31 January 2014 22:14 (eleven years ago)

can't hear u, too far above me

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 22:14 (eleven years ago)

"One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."

Mordy , Friday, 31 January 2014 22:16 (eleven years ago)

- Bob Marley

SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 31 January 2014 22:17 (eleven years ago)

lol

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 22:17 (eleven years ago)

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/337993.jpg

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 31 January 2014 22:20 (eleven years ago)

That reminds me of what Thoreau wrote in Civil Disobedience:

If the injustice is part of the necessary friction of the machine of government, let it go, let it go; perchance it will wear smooth — certainly the machine will wear out. If the injustice has a spring, or a pulley, or a rope, or a crank, exclusively for itself, then perhaps you may consider whether the remedy will not be worse than the evil; but if it is of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then, I say, break the law. Let your life be a counter friction to stop the machine. What I have to do is to see, at any rate, that I do not lend myself to the wrong which I condemn.

I anxiously await how Americans will react this year now that there is finally a 'clear' fine line between what is illegal and legal, as same-sex marriage and cannabis are now legal.

c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 31 January 2014 22:21 (eleven years ago)

"modest" mickey borchardt was my favorite ilx criminal mastermind

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 31 January 2014 22:22 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MokNvbiRqCM

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 22:25 (eleven years ago)

oh man I want to talk about ILX criminals so badly but, considering the offense one was alleged to have committed, I am wary of libel

SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 31 January 2014 22:26 (eleven years ago)

wau

mookieproof, Friday, 31 January 2014 22:33 (eleven years ago)

luna-related?

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 22:33 (eleven years ago)

that's one, the other stole from a charity

SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 31 January 2014 22:37 (eleven years ago)

allegedly

SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 31 January 2014 22:37 (eleven years ago)

aidy boothroyd wasn't sacked, he was exed by dommy p and the northants azzurri wrote a sacking coverstory, those dudes run the game in those wild lands

141 Jute Gyte - Discontinuities 142 drake - nothing was the same (imago), Friday, 31 January 2014 22:41 (eleven years ago)

imago-to-english please

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 22:43 (eleven years ago)

soccer bantz, apologies my friend

141 Jute Gyte - Discontinuities 142 drake - nothing was the same (imago), Friday, 31 January 2014 22:43 (eleven years ago)

no problemo

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 22:44 (eleven years ago)

buenos tardes

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 22:44 (eleven years ago)

imago-to-english please

Oh the ironing...

What do I think? Compensez-vous! (Michael White), Friday, 31 January 2014 22:52 (eleven years ago)

^^^this guy's hommes de maison just got mcdermott

141 Jute Gyte - Discontinuities 142 drake - nothing was the same (imago), Friday, 31 January 2014 22:57 (eleven years ago)

I work in a guitar store

Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Friday, 31 January 2014 23:12 (eleven years ago)

I'm pretty sure I don't associate with anyone who is a current criminal. In the past (other than drugs, prostitution, trespassing, gambling, political protest, vandalism, various offences on the spectrum of theft, and b&e), one of my high school friends stabbed somebody and another robbed a bank. Voting 2.

bilbo bobbins (how's life), Friday, 31 January 2014 23:15 (eleven years ago)

this guy's hommes de maison just got mcdermott

Le sigh

What do I think? Compensez-vous! (Michael White), Friday, 31 January 2014 23:21 (eleven years ago)

not sure if what luna supposedly did was *exactly* criminal, was it? i don't know the law really.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 31 January 2014 23:34 (eleven years ago)

can americans even get sued for libel?

flopson, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:39 (eleven years ago)

yes. the national review is being sued right now. the standard is higher than in the uk tho

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:52 (eleven years ago)

I'd think there was some level of fraud involved, personally

SHAUN (DJP), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:54 (eleven years ago)

I went to school with a serial killer who is nearing the end of his life sentence in Dublin. I am terrified about ever bumping into him again because he had a few goes at me and I kicked his arse every time he did. He is obscenely horrible and initially the Gardai tried to plant some of his murders on an autistic kid, just everything about him scares the hell out of me. I would literally put a knife in the MF if I saw him walking up my path.

Most of my other criminal friends were just spivs who got caught selling drugs or handling stolen goods.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:44 (eleven years ago)

O_O

flopson, Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:45 (eleven years ago)

http://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_FXcYqokzLaBWexV0gRojfIjdPrXxN_j9-PMNjR90bqvNZ6v4MA

This is him :P

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:52 (eleven years ago)

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_FXcYqokzLaBWexV0gRojfIjdPrXxN_j9-PMNjR90bqvNZ6v4MA

This is him :P

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:53 (eleven years ago)

My old high school friend Michael, who I went to church camp with and who dated my wife's best friend (with whom I attended college, as it happened) is in jail for the rest of his life for shotgunning his parents to death in their bed while they slept.

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:01 (eleven years ago)

That sounds quite standard coming your vast expanse of guns and fucked up people, but I suppose it is no less shocking when you discover the guy from 3 doors away is serial killer. Wherever the fuck you come from.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:08 (eleven years ago)

My brother has spent much of his adult life behind bars. He's finishing his latest stretch this month, and since he doesn't have anywhere else to go, he's moving back with my mom. This'll be his first time out since my dad's death, so the new family/power dynamic has me worried.

Beyond that, the only criminal I think I know is the hilariously stupid owner of the printing company I worked for from '98-'01. Embezzler/fraudster, turned down an 18-month plea deal to go to trial, got convicted and went away for 10 years.

330,003 Luftballons (WilliamC), Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:21 (eleven years ago)

nearing the end of his life sentence

seems a bit quick

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:22 (eleven years ago)

Taking just people I know who've been in prison for violent or property crime, 10+

good day to you, (onimo), Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:24 (eleven years ago)

seems a bit quick

he got sentenced in '98-99 as far as I remember, life sentence in UK/Eire is different to what gets doled out in the US.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:30 (eleven years ago)

yeah -- the term just bothers the editor in me

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:47 (eleven years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 2 February 2014 00:01 (eleven years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 3 February 2014 00:01 (eleven years ago)

voted 10+. some of my students are on work release. wedon't talk about it much until it's time to try to find them jobs. then we try to figure out where they might be able to work. it's difficult
the sex offenders have the most disclosure rules of course. alert the sherrif, meet with the dean. so far they've all been allowed to stay in class.

friend to all animals (anky), Monday, 3 February 2014 00:30 (eleven years ago)

i voted 10+ bc of my job too but irl it's like 1 lol. sheriff is the only word i have trouble spelling, too, btw. ; )

sent from my butt (harbl), Monday, 3 February 2014 00:36 (eleven years ago)

can we vote to ban c21m50nh3x460n for making a wish-washy "poll"

hang son doong (am0n), Monday, 3 February 2014 20:53 (eleven years ago)

my good friend from high school is wrapping up his five year prison sentence this month for collusion. He was also fined $8MM.

Pale Smiley Face (dandydonweiner), Monday, 3 February 2014 21:22 (eleven years ago)

where will he get the millimeters

hang son doong (am0n), Monday, 3 February 2014 21:31 (eleven years ago)

europe

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 3 February 2014 21:32 (eleven years ago)

Possession of illegal substances is a crime so definitely 10 +

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 18:57 (eleven years ago)

only a crime if you're caught, baby

mh, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 19:03 (eleven years ago)

criminals are people who make their living through crime imo

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 19:08 (eleven years ago)

we are all criminals... of love

mh, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 19:10 (eleven years ago)

so none i guess really, i know some retired criminals

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 19:10 (eleven years ago)

Heh when you put it like that, i guess i know a few, but nothin srs just an odd breach of fishin regs here or there or w/e

a horse divided cannot stand (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 19:13 (eleven years ago)

i think a lot of the guys who work out at my Y have done time; i've met a couple of them and they've said as much but we're not even really acquainted.

goole, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 19:13 (eleven years ago)

real question is how many people you know that _aren't_ criminals, huh

mh, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 19:14 (eleven years ago)

I dunno about you guys but my society is so busy trying to make everyone feel at least a little guilty that they've made crossing the street illegal if you don't do it _just so_

mh, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 19:16 (eleven years ago)

*crosses street jaywalking, shooting sixguns in the air*

a horse divided cannot stand (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 19:17 (eleven years ago)

criminals are people who make their living through crime imo

― lag∞n, Tuesday, February 4, 2014 7:08 PM (17 minutes ago)

Murderers aren't criminals, then?

emil.y, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 19:27 (eleven years ago)

Murderers, no. Assassins, OTOH...

Fight the Powers that Be with this Powerful Les Paul! (DJP), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 19:54 (eleven years ago)

banderas.gif

balls, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 20:02 (eleven years ago)

The only thing I've ever stole was a girl's heart.

c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 20:04 (eleven years ago)

stolen*

c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 20:05 (eleven years ago)

murderer

Fight the Powers that Be with this Powerful Les Paul! (DJP), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 20:05 (eleven years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/CEk7d0A.png

c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 20:11 (eleven years ago)

Murderers aren't criminals, then?

― emil.y, Tuesday, February 4, 2014 2:27 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it takes you what five minutes to murder someone and then that supposed to define you im not so sure

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 22:59 (eleven years ago)

You fuck *one* goat eh

a horse divided cannot stand (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 23:01 (eleven years ago)

it's a lifestyle ofc

ogmor, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 23:25 (eleven years ago)


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