Have you seceded from the broadcast?

To be clear: I loved this article, and I feel it's less 'wake up, sheeple', more 'you've woken up, shit stinks, now let's mobilise'

Missing "good lord tl;dr" option

where is the option for i really enjoy hatereading everything in the current cultural discourse?

lol

that's the 'extreme scepticism' one i think

NYT is kinda great tho. BBC, ALJ, NPR good too.

i have a lot of respect for ppl who go to places where they're killing lots of people and then interview ppl and then file stories about it

well then, option 4. although it's possible to divorce respect for the individual journalist from hatred/scepticism for their parent institution imo

The sort of culpability in a crime that is encompassed by watching the Daily Show is so elusive and so pervasive that you're going to be culpable one way or another no matter how hard you try, even if you abstain from all mediated experiences, because there are more crimes out there than just the crimes of the media and you're bound to be distantly involved in at least a few.

Just living in this country means you are giving the ok with lots of horrible things that not watching a TV show will not change.

^what he said

Pete Townshend predicted this in 1970.

Anonymous SilkRoad3.0 Gox-surfin the deepweb

can't decide which US TV show best explains the history of mankind to me

i am in blood
stepp'd in so far that, should i wade no more,
returning were as tedious as go o'er

anyway i liked this article a lot and it was basically point-by-point exactly what i wouldn't shut up about the one time i dropped acid, lol (the internet = simultaneously the only possible escape from our imminently suicidal ideology & the most powerful tool ever devised for reinforcing that ideology--"ideology" doesn't even push the right buttons actually; the internet is the potential tool for the redemptive species-change neither christianity nor communism ever had any idea how to actually effect, unexpectedly brought to you by the u.s. defense department--it is lightdark like the apple, or the monolith, or the revolution) but i think the most currently urgent battle in the war it describes has more to do with comcast mergers and sopa (or if you like with the actual physical seizure of some of the infrastructure we let the new railroads build for us) than with abstaining from the daily show. (also glad he just said the daily show and not colbert cuz i still think colbert is good for you, i know that is corny millennial bullshit.) but i agree that people should watch less tv, i guess.

voting these are exciting times

oh god sweet naivety and the lie/dream of Outside

http://www.generation-online.org/p/fpdeleuze7.htm

well i mean outside is the destruction of power and the harmonious liberation of desire innit

indeed a bigger bill than the daily show is gonna pay

the outside is here, now, inside

right!

so none of this shit - and sure it's shit - and all the precious art treasures everybody here loves and makes exceptions for are not shit - are at least as much vectors that move away from power as they are stanchions that reinforce it

sorry, "all the precious art treasures...are not not shit"

you mean everything or like beyonce

even Beyonce maybe :(

well, everything is shit and not shit

and it's understandable to want to ascribe preciousness to the stuff you love and only to that but please, can we be real with ourselves at least?

fully agree that everything is shit and not shit which is what i meant by "lightdark" and on most days prob agree that everything is mostly shit :( but yknow u can't feel that way all the time man

w art usually a lot of the pleasure comes precisely (fuck) from the ways in which it is both shit and not, i feel like?

oh i love a lot of shit, i don't mean it negative so much as "recognise this is all ephemeral, it can be played with, discarded or celebrated, it isn't the material in materialism that's the problem here"

sure

content aside tho it's the internet in its form (horizontal/universal/infinite) that still seems to me like a model for an ism-level change, but the exact same infrastructure is what you'd build if you wanted to distract pacify and panoptically enslave, so the two potentials are part of the same monad or whatever, just like how everything else works

it's also possible that i am failing to recognize that the internet is just "the frontier" again and the frontier always gets owned eventually

http://i.imgur.com/tcwqRGJ.jpg

i think the most currently urgent battle in the war it describes has more to do with comcast mergers and sopa (or if you like with the actual physical seizure of some of the infrastructure we let the new railroads build for us)

I think this is the author's point too - the growing disaffection with media is just the first stage - the damascene moment - in a battle for our freedom to proliferate open lines of communication

NV, will read that Deleuze later, but I suspect you're right to a degree - we're not looking for an Outside of substantive location but of mind

...but then, the two are the same, are they not? ach, well I'd best read the text

anything we build in future will be a reassemblage of the lego we've got now, i guess

Burn it all, it is all noise, all consumerist propaganda.

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061026040717/en.futurama/images/9/99/Bender-obsoletely-_fabulous.jpg

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secede from the broadcast already system

something I said yesterday, in a fit of subterranean zeal: "one is right to be suspicious of any announcement made by any authority figure to any public audience", so yeah, System is in my sights, unless of course it isn't an authority figure but a purely disinterested accessory to community organisation

no one is purely disinterested -- there is no purity - we are all complicit! nothing is outside of Capital! Soylent Green is people! Long live the new flesh!

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sorry to be all 'don't have a tv' but it wrenches me how much of the ILX discourse is about long-form tv series, pretty much the definition of unthreatening hegemonic comfort-culture

have u watched the sopranos yet

wd like culture to threaten me more but to be honest after a long day being underpaid to reinforce the hegemony i just wanna

lol my best friend Ben assures me The Sopranos is the single long-form tv serial I'd get something out of

if my only option was british tv i wouldn't watch it either

dont have any real interest in any other long-form tv series and every broadsheet article about 'boxset culture' from 2010 was another nadir but the form is no more inherently debilitated any more than the romantic symphony is elevated

tv is a great medium traduced by morons as someone said

the great majority of the morons doing the traducing are on the watching end of the transaction, unless you categorize corporate venality as moronic.