Iron and Wine - "The Creek Drank The Cradle", Classic or Dud?

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A gem I think. Beautiful record, fav track "Bird Stealing Bread". I'll give it a classic.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Good, but not classic. But c'mon -- it's only a few months old. Too early for any judgement of this magnitude.

paul cox (paul cox), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

My album of the year (even if the Pazz and Jop algoriddim) juggled my list....

It was also the album of the year for Byron Coley, which I was not expecting.

I think it's very, very beautiful. "Upward Over the Mountain" actually made me tear up the firdt couple of time through. No kidding.

Joe Gross, Tuesday, 18 February 2003 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Meh. The newly-leaked EP is much more to my liking.

gazuga (gazuga), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)

What's on the EP?

Joe Gross, Wednesday, 19 February 2003 04:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think the EP is as good. The album is, like paul cox said above, a good record but not a classic one. It definately has some great moments. I find the CSN(&Y) and Simon and Garfunkel influences to be a little to overt at times.

I'll concede 'Bird Stealing Bread' might be classic as far as song's go.

Chris Davis (Chris Davis), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 06:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Another vote for Good not Classic. Saw him live the other day & heard some Dave Crosby aswell as the previously mentioned vocal influences.

Wandering Boy Poet, Wednesday, 19 February 2003 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I tried to like this album so much and failed, so I guess I'd have to say Dud but it doesn't suck or anything so perhaps that's too harsh. Just sort of boring IMHO.

Brian the Snorf, Wednesday, 19 February 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a fine album, just you can't really call things classics within mere months of the release.

Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Thursday, 20 February 2003 00:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I can call it anything I want.

Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 20 February 2003 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

Classic. As much as I like Beam's new, more robust sound, there's a Southern charm and melancholy here that he's never repreated.

And Bird Stealing Bread is a devestatingly sad song (I can never figure out if he's singing to a former love or a dead child).

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 20 January 2008 15:36 (seventeen years ago)

Classic. As much as I like Beam's new, more robust sound, there's a Southern charm and melancholy here that he's never repreated.

The truth. Creek is still his best record.

MRZBW, Sunday, 20 January 2008 15:41 (seventeen years ago)

Daniel, ar eyou the one who mentioned that as a possible reading of Bird Stealing Bread elsewhere on ILM? Ever since I read someone posit that was what it was about (a dead child) I can barely listen to that song, it is unbearably sad to me now. Even though I don't think it's actually about that.

akm, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 06:42 (seventeen years ago)

Daniel, ar eyou the one who mentioned that as a possible reading of Bird Stealing Bread elsewhere on ILM?

Yeah, that was me.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 16:55 (seventeen years ago)

Sorry I messed up the song for you. It's an amazing piece of art (especially in light of how relatively simple it is), but -- especially with that interpretation -- the song can be hard to listen to.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 16:58 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

The Blue Sky Project: A Clorox Charity Collection

Lion's Mane is the opening track from Iron & Wine's 2002 release, The Creek Drank The Cradle. It evokes the innocence of youth and was used in a Clorox Disinfectant Wipes commercial called "Touch Me," in which dirty surfaces call out to the eager hands of young children.

dad a, Friday, 28 March 2008 19:47 (seventeen years ago)

This album really does hold up well, Clorox notwithstanding.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 28 March 2008 21:25 (seventeen years ago)

I don't see how "Bird Stealing Bread" can be about a dead child at all. I mean, maybe particular lines in isolation might be resonant, but when you get to a line like "Do his hands in your hair feel a lot like a thing you believe in" -- that seems so obviously directed to his ex about her new beau. Who is the "his" and who is the "your" otherwise?

jaymc, Friday, 28 March 2008 21:39 (seventeen years ago)

''He'' may be God and ''your'' may be the dead child.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 29 March 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

that's a stretch.

bug, Saturday, 29 March 2008 06:42 (seventeen years ago)

It's one of two ways I always interpreted the song (and, BTW, not based on that isolated lyric, but based on the lyrics overall). I don't think it's a stretch. As I say, I wasn't trying to hear the song that way, I just did. Now, admittedly, the fact that I'm the father of a then-two or three year old girl (I can't recall when I first heard the song) may have something to do with how I heard it, but -- like many, if not most, people -- I often hear and understand lyrics in the context of their own life, experience, hopes and fears.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 29 March 2008 11:41 (seventeen years ago)

Sorry, ''in the context of my own life, experience, hopes and fears,'' is what I meant to say.

Damn typos.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 29 March 2008 11:44 (seventeen years ago)

three years pass...

perfect album for a miserable dreary ny afternoon in april

slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Friday, 1 April 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

totally. you know what this record is not good for? driving. my wife and i were listening to it in the car, and something about the mix makes it just sound like scratching on guitar strings and muttering, no matter what volume. this might be a problem with our soundsystem/loud car, though.

tylerw, Friday, 1 April 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

^ haha. This album is great, but way too sleepy to be heard while driving.

musicfanatic, Friday, 1 April 2011 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

the new album is way underrated

uberweiss, Friday, 1 April 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

man, i just cannot get into it

tylerw, Friday, 1 April 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

It really is great.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 1 April 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

im still struggling with it too.

Zero pumps, massive boner (thebingo), Friday, 1 April 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

thirteen years pass...

new ep is very pleasant

nxd, Friday, 3 May 2024 10:00 (one year ago)

Only heard the one song with Fiona Apple so far, which I really liked, but it's a full album, no?

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 May 2024 14:16 (one year ago)

yep sorry x

nxd, Friday, 3 May 2024 14:28 (one year ago)

No problem, wondered if maybe there was something else recently too!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 May 2024 14:42 (one year ago)

two months pass...

This guy hasn’t excited me in a long time, but I still hold this album dear. It has a very specific intimacy. Smells of dirt and blood and a girl I used to know in South Carolina. And Upward Over The Mountain is a special song.

Mule, Thursday, 11 July 2024 07:17 (eleven months ago)

Smells of dirt and blood and a girl I used to know in South Carolina

your secret is safe with us

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 11 July 2024 11:59 (eleven months ago)

Fucking hell, when you put it like that. Yikes.

(She lives in Detroit now, presumably very well)

Mule, Thursday, 11 July 2024 13:21 (eleven months ago)

you put it like that! lol

I loved Shepherd's Dog at the time but it was kind of a turning point i never bothered keeping up with. So i get what you're saying.

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 11 July 2024 14:07 (eleven months ago)

I met Sam in the Spain around 2004. He’s a South Carolinian as well. One of the nicest guys

Heez, Thursday, 11 July 2024 15:06 (eleven months ago)

a special record

nxd, Thursday, 11 July 2024 17:19 (eleven months ago)


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