Husker Du : Classic or Dud, Search and Destroy.

anyway

search: New Day Rising + Candy Apple Grey Destroy: Nova MOb

I'll agree that Sugar were the better band, though they didn't exactly blaze the trails that Husker Du did. Better rhythm section, more focused attack, etc. Some of David Barbe's songs are really good, but he's no Grant Hart, is he?

search: Metal Circus, "Pink Turns to Blue", "Eight Miles High", "Gir Who Lives On Heaven Hill", "Eiffel Tower High" (their greatest song, I think)

destroy: Sugar (way booooooooringgggggg)

There were so many great bands that husker du inspired- Pixies (who taught a certain K. Cobain about songwriting), afghan whigs, Royal trux, and that's to name a few.

In their time they made intense, emotional, angry guitar rock. They had honesty and integrity. MBV took a lot from them (weren't they the British version of the Du). Of course, Bob Mould would follow with Sugar, whose Copper Blue was in part influenced by Loveless.

Right now, with Fushitsusha in hibernation (they have not found a replacement for theitr drummer) we could really do with something like husker du.

Search "Don't Want To Know If You Are Lonely" and "She Floated Away", Destroy "Crystal". I knid of like The Baby Song too.... (I see my tatses obvious run counter to nearly everyone else round here).

Definate Classic though - even with the knitting needle production.

Search: most of New Day Rising and Metal Circus, "Chartered Trips", "Pink Turns to Blue", "Turn On the News" Destroy: roughly two-thirds of the catalogue -- a best-of would be nice here because none of the albums are an unassailable listen

I find it really really difficult to work out why I like some American guitar rock a lot and some so little.

I'm interested at the number of dud votes here, though. My concerns about the forum are slightly allayed ;)

if you people really hate the band's production, pick up the live lp "the living end" - makes the "warehouse" stuff much less tame and actually sounds *good* (gosh...)

Then all through the nineties I never listened to any of their records. A couple of months ago, I decided to put on New Day Rising. And I was left feeling ... well, nothing. If anything, it sounded like the Mother of All Emo Records, which would of course be a bad thing.

Funny how a decade can change one's perceptions so greatly.

Anyway, I heard "Don't Want to Know If You Are Lonely" on the radio today for the first time in a long time and it sounded like the Foo Fighters! (Except for the fact that it was much more well written, of course!)

I also really like reading Julio's early posts.

Woah. That is almost exactly the list I'd post, 'cept I'd add in "Books About UFOs" 'cuz it's sweet.

I don't like Zen Arcade that much as an album. I love some of the tracks on it, but I'd be way more likely to listen to New Day Rising all the way through.

Fucking classic, even now. The only album that's not up to scratch is Candy Apple Grey.

"Brick on your head, 'cause you're a fuckhead" to the naysayers.

It occurs to me now Warehouse is the one, that was the name of only album of Husker Du I had. It was about 60% enjoyable as I recall.

The singles were always good, don't get me wrong...Eight Miles High was great too. I heard their version of that before anyone else's, actually. I don't feel cheated by that at all.

That was the Hated's theory, anyway...

Incidentally, listening to DNA and sirone late last year made me realize how the bass could work and what a blind spot that was for me even though those aren't exactly rock. I haven't heard 'zen arcade' in ages so i should revisit this.

(thanks sundar, that must've been one of my v first posts on ilm though for better or worse I could never use a word like 'quality' or 'integrity' again nor 'influence' or 'emotion' without explaining it)

(Did I just say that?)

Also, Greg Norton, being the most underrated member of the band, is such a great bassist. I walk around most days with a loop of "Statues" running on repeat in my brain.

Any coincidence that this thread has been revived just after that special sometime in April when we add another hour?

surprised that stevie doesn't really dig Diane, I agree with LL that it is really memorable/well done/haunting

pretty sure I heard Metal Circus after Zen Arcade but I remember the tune standing out even then

Oh, I can absolutely appreciate that 'Diane''s a great song, but I've never really liked it, if that makes sense? Also, I'm of an age that I possibly heard the strings-laden Therapy? cover version first, and absolutely hated that.

I was a big "Diane" fan, but I kinda avoid it now. I mean, it's still a great song, just that Grant did maybe too good of a job.

Xp Oh yeah that cover is atrocious.

I appreciate it for so many reasons many of which will be explained in detail in my imaginary 33 1/3 book about Metal Circus. I think the submission season is spring — anyone know?

It wasn't the same as using the n-word "in character," and Grant actually personally knew Diane. So it's nothing against him.

But man. Maybe if her name hadn't been a homonym for "Dyin'" it wouldn't feel so real.

The thing is I don’t hear it that way — it’s just a different way of pronouncing her name. DI ANE DI ANE DIIIIII ANE

That’s when the narrator changes from the killer to Grant himself mourning.

The killer’s voice even becomes more and more desperate once he gets her into the car. At first he’s all “we could go to a party down at Lake Cove” and then well you know what happens then. It’s a great true crime song like a classic murder ballad or Poor Murdered Woman.

That said I can totally understand why he wouldn’t want to sing it anymore, to embody that voice.

I always thought it was Die Anne he was singing. Anyway its always been my fave Huskers song and that Therapy? cover is an abomination which put me off them forever.

So I was incorrect earlier, the shipping notice I got was actually not for this.

BUT I did just have the CD version drop in my mailbox, so hopefully the rest of you lot will see yours soon. Looks great so far, can't wait to dig in!

I got my LP boxset on Monday.

Got my CD today!

My T-shirt arrived today at well

Me too! (And t-shirt two, too.)

I ordered the CD box from a record shop in Dublin and I guess they didn’t get the stock yet. But it’s fine, I haven’t set up my new CD player yet so I can wait.

I got my shirt and with it came the motivation to lose 8-10 lbs so it actually fits

god i am constantly on the precipice of L/XL and defending my band t-shirt collection is sadly probably one of my biggest motivations haha

For some reason I thought GNR replaced or deleted "One in a Million" from Lies, but it looks like it is still available to stream. As is Costello's "Oliver's Army" and X's "Los Angeles" and other questionable songs that the artists have stopped performing or have changed, not to mention all the homophobic bits and slurs in hip hop. That Bad Brains made that song an instrumental is more than most even apparently repentant acts have done.

Just a quick footnote, "One in a Million" was deleted from the 2018 Appetite for Destruction box set where they presented that EP without that track, and when I saw Costello open his Gramercy Theatre residency a few years ago, he introduced "Oliver's Army" with a whole new verse, mentioning he hadn't played the song in its original form in five years (and last played it in three years when he altered the lyrics for a British audience to reflect the times). Without repeating the original lyrics, he basically said he didn't think he could sing them anymore, hence the rewrite, which can be found here.

Got the CD set today; so utterly fantastic; will be playing this A LOT. might pop down to the Numero London popup store today and.... buy some tshirts?

this fucking smokes dang

they are speeding out of their damn minds

yeah whoa

this is incredibly awesome

I admit I was skeptical about this release, but damn this is pretty a definitive erasure of the long lost SST studio tapes

(meaning the 85-86 run, I'd love to see a 1984 version of this set)

"Thanks fer bein' in our videah" - Bob in the most Minnesota accent ever <3

But Bob isn't from Minnesota?

Spent some time there as I recall tho

Enough to get an accent? I guess. I don't think I know anyone that's changed accents in their '20s, at least not living in the same country.

My aunt has lived in England for a long time and has 1000% picked up the accent

I can totally hear people who have moved away and it fades
I think my real pronounced Minnesota hick accent has faded a bit even living in Minneapolis, I came across a tape of me and my friend's old band from when I was 13 and I sounded so different talking between songs

My sister has lived in England for maybe 20 years and still has her (mild) Philly accent, more or less. As do I, having lived in the Chicago area for 25 years. I guess I do know someone originally from upstate NY (where Mould is from) who moved to the midwest for college (many decades ago) and now sort of has a midwest accent. Mould might be something of a chameleon, I suppose. My sister in law lives in Australia and has for around 20 years, but she sometimes sounds like a hybrid of where she's from and where she is now. Still unquestionably American, though. I suspect the way we speak has as much to do with how our parents speak as it does where we grew up.

Mould moved to MN in the late '70s, though. Aside from affectation, would his accent really change in just five or so years?

c'mon man, just listen to this awesome record

Oh, it's on!!! I love recordings from this era. I think the one I listened to the most was "Lynndale's Burning," which was also First Avenue c. 85/86.

Speaking of which, is "Land Speed Record" a triple pun?

I kinda don't give a fuck Josh

This set was an automatic purchase for me, but the teasers Numero put out before the release really blew me away.

Man, Mould's guitar on this is just so nuts. The volume, the overtones, the way he sneaks in melodies without abandoning the wall of noise ...

well this is certainly their definitive live document now

Half way through and its smoking on this Sat morning

The pile up of covers at the end of the first half totally brought back my memory of the show I saw on that tour, the delight and unpredictability when they broke into Ticket to Ride in front of a mosh pit, the room gradually recognizing the Mary Tyler Moore theme. The crowd was still very much mohawks and battle jackets but by the next pass through town, not so much !

to Mould's guitar and the overtones, etc, it never really occurred to me that he really setting the course for shoegaze until I heard this early My Bloody Valentine (I only know the albums) song a friend sent to me. Which is totally a Huskers song with some pure noise outbursts, even down the the very identifiable Grant drum fills.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Har7vVJPmuU

looking up "Misty Modern Days" led me to this amazing-looking bootleg:
https://www.discogs.com/release/3039303-H%C3%BCsker-D%C3%BC-Up-In-The-Air-Studio-Outtakes

also love that "All Work And No Play" is on this

Mould’s sound to teenage me: “finally someone who plays with enough distortion!”

<i>to Mould’s guitar and the overtones, etc, it never really occurred to me that he really setting the course for shoegaze until I heard this early My Bloody Valentine (I only know the albums) song a friend sent to me. Which is totally a Huskers song with some pure noise outbursts, even down the the very identifiable Grant drum fills.</i>

It’s pretty much on record that Alan McGee signed MBV to Creation because he was a huge Hüsker Dü nut (and of course he would eventually get Mould on the label).

Wasn't one of Mould's studio tricks to record his guitar parts at varying speeds, to give it that blurry effect?

it never really occurred to me that he really setting the course for shoegaze until I heard this early My Bloody Valentine (I only know the albums) song a friend sent to me. Which is totally a Huskers song with some pure noise outbursts, even down the the very identifiable Grant drum fills.

he was absolute smitten w mbv, too, the sonic overload of Copper Blue is his attempt at welding that dreamy sound to his more evolved sense of songwriting