Cardiacs: Classic or Dud?

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Indie noisemakers since the late seventies. Unfairly ignored or deservedly overlooked?

Phil A., Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I ordered a CD of theirs once. It was on order for weeks so I gave up.

Josh, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

2nd half of Cardiacs Live: total classic. The rest: whatever. Boy I first read this one as The *Cardigans*: Classic or Dud. ;)

Omar, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i was going to ask this one at some point. strangely the cardiacs were quite popular at my school when i was about 13/14, something which i never did understand. (it was the baggy era...although in any era would have been strange)

i have a bit of a soft spot for them, but don't really remember anything they did. all their songs seemed to be called things like 'a man and a house and a big window'

could we turn this into a search and destroy, because i've just decided to buy some cardiacs records.

gareth, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

They were oddly popular at my school as well, at about the same time. Virtually everyone I knew who also liked the sort of stuff I was into at the time (Pixies, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, Fugazi, baggy stuff, fraggle) had an inexplicable love of the Cardiacs. I hated them myself at the time; all that wacky proggery and pomposity were intolerable to my 15 year old self. I was re-exposed to them a couple of years ago after meeting another crazed fan but I still couldn't understand what the attraction was. So I'm afraid it has to be DUD.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Repulsively dud. Idiotic prog-wacky for the lower sixth.

Dr. C, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

From what I've heard from some people in the know, Sing to God would be one to search (both parts).

Josh, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I quite liked their HEAVEN BORN AND EVER BRIGHT album, not least for the single "Day is Gone," but absolutely EVERYTHING they've done since (`92/`93 or so) has been virtually unlistenable. Masturbatory to a fault. Still, I suppose I can't play that fast or in odd time signatures, so I should pipe down then.

alex in nyc, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Just cos they play in weird time sigs doesn't make them prog. And they are not in the least bit pompous. If you've ever heard Tim Smith talking, he is a surprisingly unpretentious man. All that weird stuff just comes straight out of his strange little head and has more to do with very childish sensibilities rather than from any Yes-style drugged-up indulgence.

That said, what I've heard of "Archive Cardiacs" is painful in the extreme ("A must for all collectors of toneless drivel" according to the bands own sampler CD), so destroy that. Search the two minutes and thirteen seconds of perfection that is "To go off and things". At the very least it scared Radio 1's Simon Mayo, so that should count for something.

Phil A., Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dud! No doubt about it. The absolute worst gig I have ever seen (and I've been to plenty of gigs, bad or otherwise)was The Cardiacs and Levitation way back in 1992 or thereabouts. Not only did I have to suffer the sub prog rock bilge that Levitation insisted on playing, but then I had to endure an hour or so of the godawful, psuedo alternative bollocks that The Cardiacs pass off as music. Oh the horror!

Eamonn, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

we just won't forgive or forget - they are DUD beyond DUD

Eamonn - im having a bad week - but looking forward to saturday's party !

Geordie Racer, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

five months pass...
Cardiacs have never fitted into any of those categories bandied above... first and foremost they write superbly catchy pop songs; as for odd timesigs and strange structures - why the hell not? There are some good samples of reletively recent stuff here, so rather than relying on ancient memories of a gig eight years ago, have a listen: http://www.cardiacs.com/button.html - that includes an example of poppier, more 'normal' stuff and two exerpts of the more Zappa-ish tracks (which are still insanely catchy, and thankfully lacking the Zappa wackyness) Then there's a dozen tracks at http://www.mp3.com/cardiacs - try 'Blind In Safety' and say that isnt something delicate and beautiful

Its true, Cardiacs are the least pompous band on the planet. They may be the most emotional... try listening to them more than once, you may notice that part of it. They are just plain unique, so don't come with a blueprint for listening - everyone gets something diffent out of them, hence such a wide range of gig goers

There's an album just out of quieter moments called 'Cardiacs And Affectionate Friends', with various solo stuff from Bic (Levitation), William D Drake and the Sea Nymphs... Of course Cardiacs are classic, someone described them recently as 'the finest band to walk the face of the earth' (which was nice)

Marina, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

four months pass...
I think they are bleeding brilliant. And if other people hate them it just means that it'll be easier to get to the bar at gigs... I don't care if they're not top of the pops material, I don't get the royalties.

A.Fish, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

my flatmate has a Cardiacs scarf and glove set!

He doesn't care that they sound like a riot in a fairground.

chris, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Wait wait wait. How could sounding like a riot in a fairground possibly NOT be classic?

Rebecca, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hah! Great one line reveiw. The only bad thing about Cardiacs is that they're the only band that sound remotely like that, which is a bit of a responsibility.

Marina organ, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have "Heaven Born & Ever Bright". I like it a lot. I especially like putting it in the computer CD slot when playing "Quake". this = frightening. Bits of it sound like stranglers 33 1/3 lp played @ 78rpm, which is good. I also have "Is this the Life" (something like that anyway) on cassette somewhere. This is a really good number which sounds like proto-faith-no-more. Also, they supported Blur at some fottie stadium gig, and indie kidz were reportedly running away w/fingers in ears. I like this idea as well. From this admittedly small sampling i would say classic. Also one of levitation was in them and levitation ruled. Whatever happened to dark star anyway?

Norman Phay, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Blimey, this is still going! A year ago when I started this thread, I was so upset by the responses it got, I fled ILM never to return...what an absolute wuss. I stand by everything I said though, Cardiacs rock my tiny little world.

They supported Blur at their big Mile End Indiefest, as I recall. Damian Allbran always sites them as a major influence, although you never know with Blurboy whether it's just something he says to prove his uniqueness. The only other band to really take Cardiac-worship into the mainstream were Ultrasound, and for all their freaky- outsider posturing they were never quite as interesting (Whatever happened to Tiny?)

Popular rumour has it that one editor banned them from the NME. I'd love that to be true, although I've seen the printed review of "Heaven Born" so it seems unlikely.

Phil A, Saturday, 30 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, come back and do battle! Interesting if you have a look around Lusenet the journo-sheep are slowly being outnumbered by people who actually listen to and get a kick out of music. The NME ban was true - it was apparantly one of the Sutherlands (he looked like a fat old teddy boy) standing in the crowd with his notebook and a grumpy face at the 1994 Eight Day Itch finale. Cardiacs pulled 1400 people but this guy wrote a reveiw to the effect that main support Poisoned Electric Head were the headliners and that everyone in the venue was very stupid and nobody should listen to them. Then a while later a band made Cardiacs their number one band in a 'My Top Ten' feature, but there was a mysterious layout error which meant that their top ten only went to number 2. Ho hum, I overheard someone who should know say 'the NME is in big trouble' at an industry-infested gig this week.

Anyway, you do know about 'Cardiacs Greatest Hits' just out? - lots of nicely remastered tracks and a soaring new one.

Marina the organgrinder, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

phil, this is what andy "tiny" wood is doing at the moment. Marina Organ, I wish you'd post here more often, like.

Norman Phay, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm too busy! Are you subscribed to cardiacs-chat? It's where we're all hiding. Go to http://www.cardiacs.com and follow the link at the top of the page.

marinecreature, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hello. im sorry but anyone who slags off cardiacs has either no understanding of something achiveing true brilliance, or is not mentally advanced enough to understand when something reaches the upmost limits of its evolution.(arent these the same thing?!whoops!!)

they change my life constantly. no one today can touch them.

to be muttered in the same breath as the smiths, dexys, detroit techno, etc etc

del a robbo, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Your music collection sucks without _Sings to God_ .

dagasque, Saturday, 4 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ahh! Wow! Cardiacs eh? The bestest band! Yum! Not always instantly likable, but if you put a litte effort in and Listen-Very-Carefully your effort will be rewarded.

The Limey Tank, Saturday, 4 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Xcept for Archive & Guns their other 12+ discs & bootlegs have kept me sane for the last 14 years.

Classic, Classic, CLASSIC

derek welch, Monday, 6 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So are we talking the modern Van Der Graaf Generator or what?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

CLASSIC....BEYOND CLASSIC....INFACT ABSOLUTE GENIUS IN THE EXTREME, OH YES THERE CAN BE NO DOUBT IN ANYONES MIND, JUST PLEASE MAKE THEM PLAY THIS YEAR WHERE I CAN SEE THEM FOR THE FIRT TIME IN 4 YEARS. HAPPINESS AND JOY TO ALL THINGS CARDIACS. OH AND IM ALSO SAD ENOUGH TO HAVE A CARDIACS TATTOO. CHEERS PUPPIES

david sheridon, Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

with reference to the bloke with the tattoo engraved on his arm.. i am sure i have saw the sad fucker strolling about Glasgow.. oh as a matter of fact.. i know him very well, he is my boyfriend. In my opinion this is kool.. i seem to find ourselves listening to them during the strangest ritualistic love making sessions. Wont be long before we give birth to a mini cardiac.. demon or angel? CLASSIC

angeline campbell, Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

angeline....its an angeldemon darling, full of baby puppy love and dirty dogginess.....spreading happiness and joy on land and in the sea. ps..to all other cardiacs fans, you will be invited to our wedding to worship and praise all that is CLASSIC!!!!!!

david sheridon, Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Cor! Can I come! I seem to miss all the weddings... You're not the only person with a Cardiacs tattoo - Adrian Bell (Belch of Sheffield United mad hitcher fame) has one Talking of which have you seen his book called Fever hitch - It has a big picture of Tim Smith in it... heh heh heh

marinecreature, Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

everyones welcome as long we all chip in to get cardiacs to play a 3 hour set and get william d. drake to perform the ceremony.....now that would be cool. mandi apple has got the tattoo as well. has anyone got a copy of seaside treats on video, as i only have mares nest... thanks and doggy love davexx

david sheridon, Wednesday, 8 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

just out of interest are there any cardiacs fans in scotland....im curious to see what anyones got(bootlegs, press cuttings etc) or if anyone else out there can swap or sell e mail me make way for the big ship...and here she comes now god bless 'er.

david sheridon, Wednesday, 8 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Those who fail to understand the sheer brilliance of Cardiacs shouldn't be denied their opinions. But I advise them to listen again. I've had the pleasure of meeting Tim and he's just a normal bloke with brilliant ideas. And if Jim reads some of these unkind comments on this page; it'll make him cry. Would you like that?

Labrat, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

JUST BOUGHT THE GREATEST HITS ALBUM...FUCKING FANTASTIC. "DIRTY BOY" IN ALL IT'S FULLBLOWN MAJESTIC GLORY!!!!! NEW CARDIACS TRACK.."FASTER THAN SNAKES WITH A BALL AND A CHAIN", OH YES, OH YES, OH YES...BRING ON THE NEW ALBUM AND THEN WE WILL SEE WHO RULES THIS COSMIC UNIVERSE...HA HA HA HA (SCARY LAUGHTER ENSUES!!) THANKS PUPPIES

DAVID SHERIDON, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I wonder how many of you are out there... Cardiacs are totally independant, whick means they don't have the finances to do many press ads or pay PR people... hence hardly any coverage (UK music press covers stuff they know has money for adverts behind). I'm always meeting Cardiacs fanatics who have no idea of the amount of stuff they've done recently.

There's a Rock Sounds mention this week (thanks to Sean Organ), and a couple or articles in The Organ 'zine - www.organart.com

Always check out WWW.CARDIACS.COM for info!

marinecreature, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Consultant's website is also great. It's got a selection of their old promos in poor quality realvideo, including their performance of Tarred and Feathered on The Tube. And the Consultant's Flower Garden film off Seaside Treats, which is highly recommended viewing. "This is William D. Drake. Sometimes we call him Bill. The Consultant will never call him Bill, such is his hatred of him..."

I've had the Greatest Hits on constant play since I got it. What an album! I've only had Guns, Sing to God and the Sampler up till now, so most of the old stuff is new to me. Affectionate Friends ain't bad either.

Phil A, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO NAME AND SHAME DAREN, NATHAN,JOE,MELISSA,CHARLIE FROM STGREGORYS ANDPAUL FROM THE INTERNET ALL OF YOU ARE JELOUSE AND THICK TO BE SO CRUEL TO GARETH HE IS REALLY NICE AND YOUR JUST BEING BULLIES.YOU PEPOLE AT ST GREGORYS STOP MAKING FUN OF GARETH HES ABETTER MAN THEN YOULL EVER BE. ITHINK PEOPLE SHOULDN;T JUST LIKE GARETH FOR LOOKS.KATHRYNS YOUR NUMBER 1 FAN GARETH LOVE AIDA YOU RULE

AIDA HORSE, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pardon?

marinecreature, Sunday, 16 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh dear..oh dear..oh dear......and people think cardiacs fans are off their heads....mmmmmmmm. All hail Gareth, no i cant really see it somehow. Happiness and Joy Mr. Sheridon

david sheridon, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...
cardiacs are great- tim smith-what a songwriter these songs are the bus on a bus-listen and youll find out see-dont listen to the dont knowers who think they know but dont!sea nymphs gig a couple of years back too -one of my best gigs ever-more soon please keith

keith phillips, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Do you know that William D Drake is playing a gig at the Spitz on Monday? With Bob Leith on drums apparantly. Sounds like its going to be a bit of a Cardiacs do.

Marina organ, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...
CLASSIC, OBVIOUSLY. You can SORT of see how ppl wouldn't get it - they haven't evolved very far yet! but i cannot understand whoever it was saying "I quite liked" anything by Cardiacs. That's plain odd. It's a bit like saying "Eating, well I can take it or leave it."

xini

xini, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

After seeing two live concerts and listening to their albums for years, I'm still figuring out what their music is all about. Brilliant!!!! Such complex and beautifull melodic structures.

BTW if you get the chance go see Bill Drake, he has an album forthcoming, and there's a CD-single out produced by Tim Smith (Cardiacs).

A fan!

Wilco Boumans, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
And Cardiacs are actually playing an actual gig on November 15th 2002 at the London Astoria.

Result!

Marinaorgan (Marina Organ), Saturday, 28 September 2002 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...
Just heard them for the first time: from what I can tell, classic. Reminded me of XTC if they had been a prog band. Also, some remnants of Rocky Horror style theatrics. I've heard "Guns", and guess I'll work my way backwards.

dleone (dleone), Sunday, 12 January 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

four weeks pass...
CLASSIC!!! Love em or loathe em.....this band is unique. Truely. Uninitiated should check out 'Is This The Life?' on the 'A Little Man And A House' Lp as a good introduction and go from there. Gawd knows where it may lead you. I've just dug out the 'Seaside' tape that Lee from 'Catherine in a Cupboard' did for me years ago - a forgotten gem. Nurses Whispering Verses - oh yes! TOP live band. Just hope they'll continue gigging......)))

Allen, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
Blimey, this thread has ressurrected itself!
You know big tall Lee... did he do you a tape of Toy World/Obvious Identity (Cardiacs tape albums from 1980-83 and earlier).

DL... If you've just heard 'Guns', wait till you hear 'A Little Man And A House And The Whole World Window'... give us an email if you have difficulty getting stuff.

Marinaorgan (Marina Organ), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

eight months pass...
This Spratley's Japs record is pretty good.

dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
Love em or Loath em ??
The first time I saw Cardiacs I absolutely hated them. Thankfully It didnt last for long, and soon I was enjoying some of the best gigs I have seen in 20 years. Nothing matches the total euphoria of a Cardiacs shown, I just wish Sarah would play a bit more often.
To anyone who who isn't convinced- stick with it.

paul ashby, Saturday, 13 March 2004 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
Hi All....Since my last post, me and the girlfriend got married and still.....Cardiacs are Classic!!!!
Roll on November this year.
Still the greatest band on the planet, or any other,
HAPPINESS AND JOY.
Mr Sheridon

David Sheridon, Monday, 31 May 2004 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)

C-A a decent analogue!

imago, Monday, 17 April 2023 17:08 (two years ago)

i think this is stressing my dog out

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 April 2023 17:29 (two years ago)

laaaaasssie's

on the tvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

imago, Monday, 17 April 2023 17:47 (two years ago)

seven months pass...

Interview with Jon Poole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbFfLpJUQYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKSap5N2tmw

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 2 December 2023 21:48 (one year ago)

one month passes...

lol i just knowingly listened to the cardiacs for the first time ever

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 14:42 (one year ago)

didn't expect to be reminded of henry cow

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 14:43 (one year ago)

Beyond the often quoted 'Salvation Army band playing carousel punk in a force ten gale' type of thing, there are a multitude of influences that suffused Tim's style - prog and ROI, new wave, traditional British and early music composers, twelve-tone music, and so on.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:20 (one year ago)

you love to hear it

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:26 (one year ago)

welcome to the first day of the rest of your music listenerhood, or something

imago, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:36 (one year ago)

three months pass...

idk if that'll work for yez

https://www.facebook.com/684066443/videos/1201624097486618/

Maresn3st, Friday, 3 May 2024 21:28 (one year ago)

amazing! who's in the band??

frogbs, Friday, 3 May 2024 21:59 (one year ago)

Bic, Jim, Baba, Jon, Jo but not sure about the rest, they had additional perc, sax and keys. Also, Mark Cawthra sang occasionally and maybe Tiny from Ultrasound.

Maresn3st, Friday, 3 May 2024 22:08 (one year ago)

Hearing 'Anything I Can't Eat' really brought it all back to me, seeing those HB&EB songs played live, they always sounded so brilliant, loads better than the recorded counterparts (apart from March and Helen & Heaven)

Maresn3st, Friday, 3 May 2024 22:11 (one year ago)

I'm there tomorrow. The excitement's unreal

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 3 May 2024 22:15 (one year ago)

Hopefully it ends with a big announcement concerning you know what

frogbs, Friday, 3 May 2024 22:31 (one year ago)

Some of these videos are getting me all misty eyed

frogbs, Friday, 3 May 2024 22:36 (one year ago)

Oh! It was Craig Fortnam on percussion I didn't recognise him, Chloe Herington on sax and Adrien Rodes on keys

Maresn3st, Friday, 3 May 2024 22:50 (one year ago)

Adrien's record is great - https://melodicrecords.bandcamp.com/album/heavy-maple

Maresn3st, Friday, 3 May 2024 22:51 (one year ago)

There's already stuff up from the show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGDju6E85C0

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 3 May 2024 23:32 (one year ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVygQiy6TF0

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 12:08 (one year ago)

Saturday was one of the best nights I have had

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 12:13 (one year ago)

If there's Saturday crowd footage, I'm probably quite visible

imago, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 12:14 (one year ago)

Saturday was fantastic indeed

a3poify, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 16:32 (one year ago)

They're doing a small tour of North England in October.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/5yG1KKpY4Q618ZSq/?mibextid=oFDknk

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 17:19 (one year ago)

(Scotland, too.)

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 18:16 (one year ago)

And Brighton!

a3poify, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 20:14 (one year ago)

Ooh

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 20:51 (one year ago)

one month passes...

!!!!

https://www-impattosonoro-it.translate.goog/2024/06/05/interviste/sing-to-tim-il-rinnovato-abbraccio-dei-cardiacs/?_x_tr_sl=it&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp&fbclid=IwY2xjawDOid9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHQ6zloxo1UUFw2fvAgA8Yidlo3-CxU-_lM3BrYQKKUAfmvh2lJUlAZVHyA_aem_AaqfuhNDkwLAFiYEOMCO6pqv41DRoaz2xmXXoFL41br_W35B-UpV_Fjp2VG5vmSKml66g-QFa5tdARbG8IojMI3T

It seems to be a very active time for you. What are the plans for the future? Will "LSD", the lost Cardiacs album, ever be released? (started recording in 2008 and never finished due to Tim's illness)

Jim: LSD? We have completed all the recordings. Many think that it was an almost completely completed project but it wasn't. There was still a lot to work on and we brought it to a final form. It's ready for the mixing phase, we're working slowly but I think it will be ready next year. All the voices were still missing, we recorded them but I can't tell you who sang yet.

Jon: Jim won't say it, but he's been particularly active on this project from a studio work perspective. He was the key element

Jo: Now you know too much, we'll have to kill you (laughs)

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 14:43 (one year ago)

The singing issue is a tough one, Jon probably the best suited. I'd like to hear Sharon, Craig, Bill, Richard L, Jon or maybe even Bic, but as glorious as the gigs were and it was amazing to see people like Cawthra, the singing was often not great. Kav co-wrote a fair chunk of the record so he might be on it.

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 14:49 (one year ago)

Never listened to Cardiacs til this past week. Not what I would have guessed somehow, it’s sorta like giant on-stage choral musical theater feeling. My 20yr old heard a little HBEB w me and said “it’s a lot of things but it’s a bit like oingo boingo.” i’m sure i looked confused, but after considering it— yeah.

well below the otm mendoza line (Hunt3r), Monday, 17 June 2024 16:56 (one year ago)

Adjacent, but still worth posting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx1H9w4nUqY

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 09:26 (one year ago)

aaaaaaahhhhhh so so good. YOUR MOVE CRAIG

imago, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 09:39 (one year ago)

literally the two faces of 'how to make breakup music' - craig going full 'the sea shall claim the land' mope-out, and then this, lol

imago, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 09:52 (one year ago)

both of these songs are great. is this the "solo album" spoken about here is that something different (always kind of hard to acertain the extent of james larcombe's role in the tonne of bands he's involved in - seems more as a player and arranger or other people's material?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcJgpWF_Bh8

i'm a bit parasocially sad if i'm understanding the context correctly though :(

linee, Thursday, 27 June 2024 08:02 (one year ago)

You managed to not pick that up from Ark, the album with the most just-divorced energy maybe ever, lol

imago, Thursday, 27 June 2024 08:16 (one year ago)

i've love his music but i must admit it's not really something where i pay any attention to the words as anything more than a mood... i just assume he's always extolling the virtues of some kind of antediluvian Angleterre landscape or that it's a setting of a romantic poet doing the same thing :)

*looks at the song titles and listens to the first 20 seconds and Ark* oh...

linee, Thursday, 27 June 2024 08:26 (one year ago)

You can sort of understand the whole thing from comparing that album to this new song, as I say. Or at least, you can damn well tell who required it be the case

imago, Thursday, 27 June 2024 08:33 (one year ago)

Anyway, this is a really lovely interview, thanks!

imago, Thursday, 27 June 2024 08:53 (one year ago)

I was asking James about the record yesterday and it was apparently made quite a while back, so much so that he had completely forgotten that he sung on the b-side.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 27 June 2024 09:39 (one year ago)

Apparently there's an NSRO coming soon too. Hopefully Craig's got a bit of his pep back (mind you, I A Moon was quite a downbeat album and that worked out pretty well)

imago, Thursday, 27 June 2024 10:09 (one year ago)

I think he's pretty consistent, the guitar instrumentals record and all the little things EPs and whatnot, that he was making and releasing post-lockdown have been great, still listen to Ark all the time.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 27 June 2024 11:35 (one year ago)

Oh, quite a lot of his moon stuff was amazing yeah

imago, Thursday, 27 June 2024 12:00 (one year ago)

I just mean I hope he's a bit happier!

imago, Thursday, 27 June 2024 12:05 (one year ago)

I was completely unaware of The Cardiacs, despite having worked in a record shop and being involved in college radio (US) in the late 80s and early 90s. Yesterday I was idly following this thread, and then noticed that the friend of my 20 year old son was wearing a Cardiacs t-shirt. He (age 20 also) described them as “sort of prog punk”.

christopher.ivan, Thursday, 27 June 2024 12:09 (one year ago)

two months pass...

this Kugelshrieber album is even better than i thought it would be. just non-stop hits; had to play all over again after my first listen.

https://kugelschreiber.bandcamp.com/album/cheerleaders

closest comparision would be Shrubbies obviously, but it also reminds me a little of some of what Rob Crow does with some of the kind of terse, clipped riffs and the staggered harmonies? but yeah super poppy and fun but still slightly twisty and crooked. love how it was clearly written as bass/voice first and foremost.

linee, Wednesday, 18 September 2024 10:10 (nine months ago)

oh fuck I've forgotten to listen to this! here goes. take the stage sharron...

imago, Wednesday, 18 September 2024 10:13 (nine months ago)

oh my, this closing track!

imago, Wednesday, 18 September 2024 10:53 (nine months ago)

three months pass...

https://alphabet-business-concern.bandcamp.com/album/cardiacs-e-p

yo!

fragglerock, Friday, 3 January 2025 00:11 (six months ago)

four weeks pass...

https://mindysmind.bandcamp.com/album/bright-winter-premiere?label=2796755418

Go 5:34 into this^ for an overwhelmingly good surprise

imago, Friday, 31 January 2025 23:23 (five months ago)

three months pass...

Kavus' most recent FB video includes a test pressing of what I can only assume is LSD? He doesn't directly say what it is but mentions it's something highly anticipated that's been a long time in the making.....could it actually be happening????

frogbs, Thursday, 15 May 2025 15:41 (one month ago)


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