― Johnathan, Saturday, 14 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
I got "Blue" and "Ladies of the Canyon" for my parents, not thinking I'd ever want them for myself. And why is it that 'warbling' should be considered a bad sound to listen to? Her voice on those two records is lovely!
― youn, Saturday, 14 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Duane Zarakov, Saturday, 14 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Mark, Sunday, 15 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― JM, Monday, 16 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
More to the point, did anyone see that Norwegian girl doing Joni Mitchell on Stars In Euro Eyes?
― Tom, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Geordie Racer, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
x0x0
― NoRMaN FaY, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Norman, it's funny that you mention Joan Baez in relation to this. Joan Didion has this essay about her in which she writes: "When it was time to go to high school, her father was teaching at Stanford, and so she went to Palo Alto High School, where she taught herself "House of the Rising Sun" on a Sears, Roebuck guitar, tried to achieve vibrato by tapping her throat with her finger, and made headlines by refusing to leave the school during a bomb drill." I love the myth that's suggested by these facts, esp. in relation to the setting.
― youn, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
as i am allergic to the entire countryside, i liked that they paved over paradise and put up a parking lot: asphalt = better than pollen dust, IMO
― mark s, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― anthony, Tuesday, 26 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
1. The completely unique sound she gets out of an acoustic guitar on "Blue". 'A Case Of You' = classic.
2. "The Hissing Of Summer Lawns": my definition of Pazz & Jop. Also includes Burundi music way before it was fashionable to do things like this.
3. A band like Nazareth can do great covers of her material. Also her vocal lines are ideal fodder for bootlegs (as Fluke demonstrated years ago). Recontextualisation and all that.
4. She kept Jaco busy - hence fewer shitty Jazz Rock records were made.
(I'm joking about No.4 alex!)
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 26 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 29 August 2003 07:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 29 August 2003 07:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 29 August 2003 10:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
and/or multiple alternate tunings, some of her own invention, i believe?
she's one of the greats, compositionally, subject-matter-wise and maybe persona-wise. and yes, arguably hot, if you like the personality. and probably harder than anyone who thinks she's "twee".
Both For the Roses and Court and Spark are arguably better than Blue. Her best singing (and guitar-playing?) may be on the otherwise middling though convenient pre-C&S-greatest-hits live Miles of Aisles
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 29 August 2003 17:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Friday, 29 August 2003 17:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― youn, Friday, 29 August 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
i wish i liked anne briggs more.
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 August 2003 19:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 August 2003 19:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
just noticed gygax's post. well, a 2nd opinion then.
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 29 August 2003 20:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 30 August 2003 07:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
That should read v. famous SCOTTISH guitar player etc., hope you never meet Bert on a dark night!
― Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 31 August 2003 12:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 31 August 2003 19:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― christoff (christoff), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
Expanded 2CD remasters of "Court And Spark", "Hissing Of Summer Lawns" and "Hejira" were supposed to have been released by January this year. They are not yet in the shops half a year later. Does anyone know what happened and when and if they are due?
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link
she dumped them in the ocean, I heard.
― sw00ds, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link
listened to Dog Eat Dog the other day hoping to find a dollar bin gem amidst the 80s production. unfortunately it sucked doggie dick
― jaxon, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link
hence the album title?
― sw00ds, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link
...lesbian dogs?!
― t**t, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link
I only know Blue but I love it. I started a little cult of Joni in secondary school when I traded my extra copy of Psychocandy with my friends extra copy of this. I think we both did well.
― I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link
I still think the real gems are those mid 70s ones, when she used more instruments and adopted a more "floating" and sophisticated song style. Even if there may be a bit too much chorus guitar on "Hejira" at times.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link
I agree... Hissing of Summer Lawns is my favourite Joni Mitchell record.
― Keith, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link
Court and Spark is my favorite because of the incredibly strong songwriting . I prefer it over Blue for sure. I'm shocked at the animosity up-thread.
― humansuit, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link
"Good Friends" is a good track and single!
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link
"Night Ride Home" is an underpraised gem
― J0hn D., Thursday, 12 July 2007 01:09 (seventeen years ago) link
other cool things I noticed at first:
a neat instrumental ("Sunrise Raga") that I think is also prev unreleased?her horror upon first re-hearing the piano medley, as told to the interviewer in the linersthe goofin' around medley with James Taylor is super funthe early "Twisted" I like even more than the band version, plus lyric flubs and giggles
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 02:01 (ten months ago) link
oh and the tunes w/Neil shredding
A couple of memos I just recently got:Graham Nash w Joni Mitchell: "Our House" demo:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYjRzQc_ch4
Joni w Neil & Stray Gators: "You Turn Me On (I'm a Radio)" demo:http://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#sent/KtbxLthNPsswdGjwZhDhqMMTPvwXWqzhHL?projector=1
― dow, Saturday, 14 October 2023 18:33 (ten months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE9arLNixB4
― dow, Saturday, 14 October 2023 18:35 (ten months ago) link
The "Hissing..." alternates and demos are beeeeyoooooootifulll
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 14 October 2023 22:33 (ten months ago) link
Joni came out for the encore of the Brandi Carlile & Friends show at the Hollywood Bowl tonight, seated on her royal throne flanked by Brandi and Annie Lennox (the other friends included Wendy & Lisa, Allison Russell, and the two singers from the band Lucius). They played “Shine” (which Brandi said was her favorite JM song), “Ladies of the Canyon” and “The Circle Game” with the whole crowd singing along to the chorus, the music ringing out through the night air, just a stone’s throw from Laurel Canyon. Absolutely magical.
― donna rouge, Sunday, 15 October 2023 07:07 (ten months ago) link
I was there too - it was terrific.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 15 October 2023 07:41 (ten months ago) link
Happy birthday, ma'am.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfYT_RMhvLA
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 13:57 (nine months ago) link
Goodness. Some of the very early opinions on this site are unbelievable.
Happy birthday Joni
― Duke, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 22:18 (nine months ago) link
ffs, you're not kidding, Duke. I had actually forgot how bad it could be back then.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:42 (eight months ago) link
we paved livejournal and put up a fap zing lot
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:44 (eight months ago) link
This message board as a whole is the best reminder I have of what the internet was like in the early 00s. Basically just a bunch of what we’d now call hot takes (mostly attention seeking it seems) and name calling and a lot of people who felt freely open to criticize each other from behind a keyboard when I know if they ever ran into each other in real life not a word would be said.
― zacata, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:46 (eight months ago) link
Er, not “as a whole” implying that it’s the same now, but nowhere else do I consistently come across posts from 20 years ago that serve as a reminder of the above.
― zacata, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:50 (eight months ago) link
“ felt freely open to criticize each other from behind a keyboard when I know if they ever ran into each other in real life not a word would be said”this is a good thing tho!!!!!!
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:01 (eight months ago) link
Why is it a good thing? If you wouldn't say something to someone's face, you shouldn't say it to them online.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:26 (eight months ago) link
insert that won't do emoticon here
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:53 (eight months ago) link
xp political speech, /trenchant blah blah never mind me
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:36 (eight months ago) link
I guess I just meant “saying stuff” not “saying stuff TO ppl”, please disregard I don’t mean anything
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:37 (eight months ago) link
Classic
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 4 January 2024 13:45 (eight months ago) link
The legendary Joni Mitchell will perform her first Los Angeles headlining show in over 24 years at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, October 19 – joined by the Joni Jam. Pre-sales start tomorrow at 10 a.m. with password JJAM24. Tickets go on sale to the public Friday, February 2 at 10 a.m.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:55 (seven months ago) link
I saw her a few months back at Hollywood Bowl with Brandi Carlile (where the "Joni Jam" portion was not explicitly advertised the way this one is).
They only did, I think, three of Joni's songs. Joni herself was not in great shape. She was very much buoyed by all the women surrounding her (Brandi, Annie Lennox, Allison Russell, a few others). Annie Lennox especially. Nevertheless the pure joyousness of the atmosphere was incredible, and I'd imagine a full set would be wonderful.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:58 (seven months ago) link
Just noticed that both Joni and Neil are back on Spotify.
― meatster of puppets (peace, man), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 16:54 (five months ago) link
Yep. After Neil Young saw that Joe Rogan and his misinformation podcast was now available from multiple outlets and he didn’t want to boycott them all, he decided to go back on Spotify. Then Joni did the same.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 17:00 (five months ago) link
'joni back on streaming' status update:
"sex kills" back in regular rotation, as the natural of things should be.
ps-hi alfred. you defend "sex kills" for your reasons stated above (all of which are good) , but also because we all know it's some of her best work. ♡i heart complainy joni♡
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Monday, 1 April 2024 23:48 (five months ago) link
What's bad from this era are a lot of finger-pointing songs about societal ills and the media. She'd written songs like this throughout her career, but at this point they became scolding and self-righteous.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:09 (five months ago) link
total banger.
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:14 (five months ago) link
I don't mind scolding and self-righteousness when the groove is food.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:20 (five months ago) link
And good food.
Is justice
Just.. ice?
― Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:37 (five months ago) link
Are notifications
Not if I cat ions?
― Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:38 (five months ago) link
I dislike "Sex Kills", me, but it does seem to me to be a rejoinder to/echo of Prince's "Sign O The Times", throwing some mutual respect back at the guy, which I like
― Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:42 (five months ago) link
Welp, Joni Mitchell appears to have changed the cover art to Don Juan's Reckless Daughter for the new reissue. pic.twitter.com/FejENxOJAw— all_ages (@all_ages) April 30, 2024
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 16:19 (four months ago) link
Just surprised that a hand in a dog’s mouth was the culmination of 45 years of stewing on what must have been regret over the original cover
― Slim is an Alien, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 16:48 (four months ago) link
I imagine it is less regret and more her people went to her and said we can't put out a cover with you in blackface in 2024.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:01 (four months ago) link
Wait, that’s her? I even own a copy but I guess I never really looked all that closely, just figured it was some guy.
― Slim is an Alien, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:31 (four months ago) link
The album jacket is a photomontage and includes three photographs of Mitchell. In the foreground she is in blackface as her "reputed alter ego, a black hipster named Art Nouveau".
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:32 (four months ago) link
The David Yaffe and forthcoming Ann Powers book go at lengths to describe wtf was on her mind (the Powers book best).
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:33 (four months ago) link
https://static.cambridge.org/binary/version/id/urn:cambridge.org:id:binary:20171016100701055-0366:9781316569207:68091fig18_1.png
― a fatal dose of irony (Matt #2), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 18:15 (four months ago) link
tastelessness takes many forms. the new cover art is horrendous
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:48 (four months ago) link
I would've suggested an outtake from her "Skating on Lake Mendota, WI" photo session, but she already used one for the Songs of a Prairie Girl compilation. (Granted so did Hejira, but mostly for the inner sleeve.)
Kind of like this one the most though, with Joni mysteriously in the distance I'd buy that as 'Don Juan's Reckless Daughter.'
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:48 (four months ago) link
I might be wrong but the photo of Joni with the wolf/dog they superimposed on the original blue/orange background is actually from the mid-80s and not from the 70s? I think it's from a photoshoot she did with Norman Seeff (who also did the one of her skating on Lake Mendota btw) for Dog Eat Dog, almost a decade after DJRD? Such a weird choice. I mean, I'm glad they didn't use the original artwork but surely she must have some painting from that era lying around in the attic they could use instead? Or just have some nice simple typography over the original background?
Great, underrated album; deserves a better cover than the two it got.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:54 (four months ago) link