Vote for the Best Album of the Decade (from rateyourmusic.com top 50)

This is the proper Norwegian 00s list (metal is not music):
http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=2000s&genre_include=0&genres=metal&include_child_genres=t&include=both&origin_countries=Norway&limit=none&countries=Norway

i love any country that can house both the kings of convenience and mayhem.

But really, the RYM lists are useful only for the 90s or earlier. In the 00s they are too dominated by weird and strange extreme stuff.

you mean good?

(metal is not music)
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro),

we really need that photoshop

Geir: uninterested in reality since 1983

― a full circle lol (J0hn D.),

Master Of Unreality is his fave sabbath album!

Coil for sure here.

like, not even close.

2) why the fuck don't men listen to female artists? it's not like women have the same weird moratorium on listening to male artists.

i'm not going to read the whole thread to see whether this is addressed, but kate, this ^^^^ strawman of yours is totally absurd & ridic. fwiw i think everyone going in to a thread about lists understands that lists are subjective based on who compiled them. in this case, a bunch of nerdy dudes who spend time on rate your music. note a larger percentage of metal than you'd find on any other non-genre-specific list.

furthermore, plenty of men listen to female artists. have you noticed how much ILM loves Kate Bush? or Stevie Nicks and Christine McVie? What about MIA, or Annie, or Sleater Kinney or... c'mon. At least try to think about things for a minute before getting up on some stick-horse abt it.

sorry if i come across as a dick btw, i don't intend to. i just disagree with you.

What if the best album of the decade shows up in December? Can we take the poll over again?

only if it meets Geir's approval and isn't a metal album since metal isn't music apparently.

i hope geir was actually a metalhead when he was 12

geir sprung from his mother's womb fully developed at age 47.

But really, the RYM lists are useful only for the 90s or earlier. In the 00s they are too dominated by weird and strange extreme stuff.

Yes. And the same thing would happen if there was an ILM Best of 2000s poll, based on the 2008 Electrodribble movement. That poll was so irritating. The ILM equivalent of a town hall meeting.

just you wait til the xx dominate the ilm best of 2009 electrodribble poll.

You lie!

Just keep your government hands off my electrodribble.

electrodribble will nevah die!!!

xxp to ian:

dude, i'm pretty sure Kate realizes all that fully well, much as anyone else here, come to think of it. i do, however, understand how someone can feel pretty discouraged when they see the same old stereotypically MALE mainstays winning everything in sight. long live the BOYZ ONLY club!!!

furthermore, plenty of men listen to female artists. have you noticed how much ILM loves Kate Bush? or Stevie Nicks and Christine McVie? What about MIA, or Annie, or Sleater Kinney or... c'mon. At least try to think about things for a minute before getting up on some stick-horse abt it.

But this is what I'm saying! It's not as if women don't get props here. So why don't they ever make it onto these canonical lists?

It is *so* discouraging. It's like... honestly, it's like you start to feel invisible after a while. It's so frustrating.

Some of those artists are popular on RYM as well:

The Dreaming #8 for 1982
Hounds of Love #3 for 1985

Dig Me Out #25 for 1997

but but but, this "canonical list" is just compiled by a bunch of random dudes, nothin' canonical about it imo.

Ian (re: Kate),

Thing is, ILM, as a community, is pretty PC in its expressions of taste. It's self-policing wr2 diversity, sensitivity, cultural representation, etc. Even so, its collective taste often skews white, male and indie/dance. RYM aggregates are a less "careful" summary of group taste, thus maybe all the more depressing -- though it's probably a very different group.

Just taking a quick skim through the new albums (didn't count reissues) that I bought in the 2000s, and the grand total is 104 albums that have a significant female presence (either singing or writing the majority of songs on the album) out of 275 albums (and loaded into iTunes).

On the other hand, of those 275 albums, only seven are on this list.

RYM maybe needs more ilxors and females on it then.

Or, I'm only 37% not sexist. Weirdly enough, I did notice that (sorting by album title), the female artists are clustered near the beginning of the alphabet and at the end of the alphabet. Through the first 40 or so albums, about 75% were female; then the last 20 or so albums are also disproportionately female.

Yeah, I've done, like, almost nothing on RYM, though I do have an account somewhere gathering dust. I realized pretty quickly that I don't actually care what most other people think of my music, nor do I care what they think of theirs; I think I actually started reading ILX just a few months before trying to get into RYM (because of DJ Martian, I think), and then I was like, man, fuck this, it's taking time away from listening to music that I like, and I have too much shit to worry about cataloging it all properly. If I had an intern, I'd make them do it.

It's funny, I enjoy reading lists and voting on polls, but not compiling a list. It's too damn hard to choose!

I enjoy constructing rules more than I enjoy trying to come up with "the best." It's like, to get all hippy bullshit, what's the best color? What's the best tool? Well, best for what? The dissection of criteria is almost always more interesting; listening to music more interesting still.

but lists can be fun (as long as im not compiling them)

This is a depressing list. I can't bring myself to vote for any of the metal albums, they're all so dire. I'll probably vote for Coil or something.

Also wtf is that Immolation record doing there? Decent in a meat-and-potatoes DM way but I am puzzled why anyone would rate this album so highly.

you don't like Opeth, Siegbran?

the metal albums i like in this list are :
Tool Lateralus (2001)
Agalloch The Mantle (2002)
Isis Panopticon (2004)
Electric Wizard Dopethrone (2000)
Converge Jane Doe (2001)(i know its not exactly metal but half of its fans are metalheads)
Neurosis A Sun That Never Sets (2001)
Boris Boris at Last -Feedbacker- (2003)
Isis Oceanic (2002)
Ulver Perdition City (2000)
Neurosis The Eye of Every Storm (2004)
Agalloch Ashes Against the Grain (2006)
Mastodon - Leviathan

and if they count ATD-I, Qotsa.

Howard Shore The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)

I have not seen one person ever rep for this anywhere.

the music when Frodo and co are going down the river and passing those giant statues of the kings is fiyah

I have not seen one person ever rep for this anywhere.

There are a lot of soundtrack fans out there. They realize their taste is not very "hip" and they usually aren't too profilic about it, but they do like those albums. If they didn't exist, then soundtrack albums consisting of actual score music wouldn't have existed either, as there wouldn't have been a marked for it.

you don't like Opeth, Siegbran?

last guy to spread the rumor that Siegbran liked Opeth still missing btw

:(

i needed to take a six months break from opeth because it was all getting a tad too much. the latest album never quite clicked with me despite repeat listens and they just seemed to be showing signs of hitting the wall creatively - apart from the occasional flourish here and there like the circusy synth breakdown in 'lotus eater'. but... i reckon i'm ready to brace it all again. might try and ease myself back into it via my arms, your hearse. now that's an album.

some great albums on this list by the way.

but it just seems to be getting progressively pointless to put my weight behind the same old albums in these polls. i could stick up for YHF for the billionth time, but i get the idea people know where i stand.

silly to poll it, but as it's there i voted 'a sun that never sets', for which i do not get the hate

^^^yeah, that is one awesome record!

when that alarm-call bit kicks in about 4mins into 'from the hill' it actually becomes unreasonable to dislike the album

less intense or flat-out sublime than TSIB (which is my favourite record of the 90's authored by someone other than cardiacs or mansun) but retains a really menacing, thrilling, tragic sensibility all the way through.

there's hate for a sun that never sets? from whom? burn them!

Just revisted The Ape Of Naples a few times again and that's easily my favourite on this list.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

YHF

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This proves it for once and for all. Madlib and Boards of Canada have the best albums of the decade.

I voted Madlib.

for once brian is happy.