Vote for the Best Album of the Decade (from rateyourmusic.com top 50)

electrodribble will nevah die!!!

xxp to ian:

dude, i'm pretty sure Kate realizes all that fully well, much as anyone else here, come to think of it. i do, however, understand how someone can feel pretty discouraged when they see the same old stereotypically MALE mainstays winning everything in sight. long live the BOYZ ONLY club!!!

furthermore, plenty of men listen to female artists. have you noticed how much ILM loves Kate Bush? or Stevie Nicks and Christine McVie? What about MIA, or Annie, or Sleater Kinney or... c'mon. At least try to think about things for a minute before getting up on some stick-horse abt it.

But this is what I'm saying! It's not as if women don't get props here. So why don't they ever make it onto these canonical lists?

It is *so* discouraging. It's like... honestly, it's like you start to feel invisible after a while. It's so frustrating.

Some of those artists are popular on RYM as well:

The Dreaming #8 for 1982
Hounds of Love #3 for 1985

Dig Me Out #25 for 1997

but but but, this "canonical list" is just compiled by a bunch of random dudes, nothin' canonical about it imo.

Ian (re: Kate),

Thing is, ILM, as a community, is pretty PC in its expressions of taste. It's self-policing wr2 diversity, sensitivity, cultural representation, etc. Even so, its collective taste often skews white, male and indie/dance. RYM aggregates are a less "careful" summary of group taste, thus maybe all the more depressing -- though it's probably a very different group.

Just taking a quick skim through the new albums (didn't count reissues) that I bought in the 2000s, and the grand total is 104 albums that have a significant female presence (either singing or writing the majority of songs on the album) out of 275 albums (and loaded into iTunes).

On the other hand, of those 275 albums, only seven are on this list.

RYM maybe needs more ilxors and females on it then.

Or, I'm only 37% not sexist. Weirdly enough, I did notice that (sorting by album title), the female artists are clustered near the beginning of the alphabet and at the end of the alphabet. Through the first 40 or so albums, about 75% were female; then the last 20 or so albums are also disproportionately female.

Yeah, I've done, like, almost nothing on RYM, though I do have an account somewhere gathering dust. I realized pretty quickly that I don't actually care what most other people think of my music, nor do I care what they think of theirs; I think I actually started reading ILX just a few months before trying to get into RYM (because of DJ Martian, I think), and then I was like, man, fuck this, it's taking time away from listening to music that I like, and I have too much shit to worry about cataloging it all properly. If I had an intern, I'd make them do it.

It's funny, I enjoy reading lists and voting on polls, but not compiling a list. It's too damn hard to choose!

I enjoy constructing rules more than I enjoy trying to come up with "the best." It's like, to get all hippy bullshit, what's the best color? What's the best tool? Well, best for what? The dissection of criteria is almost always more interesting; listening to music more interesting still.

but lists can be fun (as long as im not compiling them)

This is a depressing list. I can't bring myself to vote for any of the metal albums, they're all so dire. I'll probably vote for Coil or something.

Also wtf is that Immolation record doing there? Decent in a meat-and-potatoes DM way but I am puzzled why anyone would rate this album so highly.

you don't like Opeth, Siegbran?

the metal albums i like in this list are :
Tool Lateralus (2001)
Agalloch The Mantle (2002)
Isis Panopticon (2004)
Electric Wizard Dopethrone (2000)
Converge Jane Doe (2001)(i know its not exactly metal but half of its fans are metalheads)
Neurosis A Sun That Never Sets (2001)
Boris Boris at Last -Feedbacker- (2003)
Isis Oceanic (2002)
Ulver Perdition City (2000)
Neurosis The Eye of Every Storm (2004)
Agalloch Ashes Against the Grain (2006)
Mastodon - Leviathan

and if they count ATD-I, Qotsa.

Howard Shore The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)

I have not seen one person ever rep for this anywhere.

the music when Frodo and co are going down the river and passing those giant statues of the kings is fiyah

I have not seen one person ever rep for this anywhere.

There are a lot of soundtrack fans out there. They realize their taste is not very "hip" and they usually aren't too profilic about it, but they do like those albums. If they didn't exist, then soundtrack albums consisting of actual score music wouldn't have existed either, as there wouldn't have been a marked for it.

you don't like Opeth, Siegbran?

last guy to spread the rumor that Siegbran liked Opeth still missing btw

:(

i needed to take a six months break from opeth because it was all getting a tad too much. the latest album never quite clicked with me despite repeat listens and they just seemed to be showing signs of hitting the wall creatively - apart from the occasional flourish here and there like the circusy synth breakdown in 'lotus eater'. but... i reckon i'm ready to brace it all again. might try and ease myself back into it via my arms, your hearse. now that's an album.

some great albums on this list by the way.

but it just seems to be getting progressively pointless to put my weight behind the same old albums in these polls. i could stick up for YHF for the billionth time, but i get the idea people know where i stand.

silly to poll it, but as it's there i voted 'a sun that never sets', for which i do not get the hate

^^^yeah, that is one awesome record!

when that alarm-call bit kicks in about 4mins into 'from the hill' it actually becomes unreasonable to dislike the album

less intense or flat-out sublime than TSIB (which is my favourite record of the 90's authored by someone other than cardiacs or mansun) but retains a really menacing, thrilling, tragic sensibility all the way through.

there's hate for a sun that never sets? from whom? burn them!

Just revisted The Ape Of Naples a few times again and that's easily my favourite on this list.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

YHF

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This proves it for once and for all. Madlib and Boards of Canada have the best albums of the decade.

I voted Madlib.

for once brian is happy.

geogaddi is ok but best of the decade? apparently it has been even lousier than i thought.

That's ILM for you

Didn't realise anyone had actually listened to that album more than a couple of times.

5 votes for Agalloch, cool.

I'd probably have voted for 'Relationship of Command' on this list, but the list doesn't contain any of my favourite albums of the decade.

Got down to no.695: The Knife 'Silent Shout' to find anything which might have a chance of getting into a top 10 I might make (not that I'm going to.)

5 votes for Agalloch, cool.

8 actually in total.

geogaddi is ok but best of the decade? apparently it has been even lousier than i thought.

― alex in mainhattan, Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:27 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

I think it's just that the top 50 RYM albums suck.

(Coil, Unwound, Ligeti excepted)