― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
This is not the case to the same extent with dancehall or soca or hardcore or any music made prior to about 1900 except classical.
If the tabloids WERE writing more about a certain type of music, would more people be listening to it? (I am fully aware that tabloids are followers rather than leaders in terms of cultural trends, BUT...)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
tabloids didn't write abt popstars or pop AT ALL until the late 80s, really => i (seriously) think reality TV makeover pop was a cultural reaction against the entrapment of the fun of celebrity in the web of tabloid writing (obviously it failed)
in the last two or three years we've begin to see music-makers once again taking up the baton of that web as a challenge (taTu = most obvious), though no one's been as effective as the pistols momentarily were (at tremendous cost to themselves)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
i used to work there < / potentially devastating confessional >
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
this sentence has never been in th bizarre column! sean paul is the new shaggy tho, apparently...
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
ans = of COURSE it has an effect and not all "bad" either (necessarily)
actually the fact that eg the nme is paid unquestioning attention by eg bizarre columnists (and radio one djs) is an even more extreme example of HE GOT WHAT HE WANTED BUT HE LOST WHAT HE HAD
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
ha ha, sorry - add the word 'Jordan' in there somewhere
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
It reminds me of a thread I started last year "is dance music starting to have a heritage every bit as irritating as that of rock music".
I am a bit lost here because I went to lunch and then had work to do. Matt's point about broadening what's written about is good but I'm not sure people understand DJ sets enough.
On reflection Gareth's questions were getting at one thing I was thinking about at lunchtime, sort of why doesn't one (or don't I) just write about dance for dance people. It feels like preaching to the converted I guess, I'd rather be working towards something rather than just doing the job.
And yeah I see the obvious "but if you achieve it you'd have nothing to do" thing but that's true of any life.
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
But I thought your whole rationale behind this was stopping all these great records you've heard from disappearing? In which case, surely writing for an audience you KNOW would like them is perfect?
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
but also there's tom's point that unless you think quite hard about what the achieved goal is to be, you may end up with something you can't bear
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
(*ie not publishable only in slim volumes of poetry handprinted in vilnius)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
need to be given room to make these manoeuvres
What are the chances though eh? At least in print anyway.
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
you need to write for american magazines who don't pay!
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 28 August 2003 17:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 28 August 2003 19:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
NOBODY deserves that much money for six hours work.
Nobody deserves than money for 1 months work.
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Nobody deserves that money for 1 months work.
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― nabiscothingy, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link