Indie acts doing covers of pop/rap/RnB songs: Classic or Dud?

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Siouxie & The Banshees covering 'Dear Prudence' - example of 'indie' band covering pop song successfully?

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

probably doesnt count tho

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mull Historical Society did a cover of It Takes More on Re:Covered last night that was so glaaaaaaaaaah it made me want to find my copy of Loss and CRUSH IT TO DEATH. This may well have been partly down to Colin McIntyre's excessively smug face, though.

On an earlier edition of Re:Covered, Liberty X covered High And Dry. They were all sat on stools and were all "Oooh, we're well cred, us - IN YOUR FACE MYLEENE - man, we so skill." It was a bit irritating.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, and Kelis used to do a cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit, which I remember all my friends hating.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

best cover ever: eugene chadbourne's "oh yoko"

dan (dan), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 20:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

it wasn't Baxendale, it was Spare Snare, and it wasn't rubbish at all so eat my fuc. Baxendale did "My Chica Latina" or wtf it's called

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Does Jimmy Eat World's version of "Firestarter" count as an indie act doing a cover of a pop/rap/RnB song? Because that is the greatest cover ever. Excepting possibly Oizone's "Love Me For A Reason", which may be supposed to be ironic but is also ace.

Of course, the big question is 'what makes a good cover', and if you think - as I do - that making the song sound completely different is part of the point of modern cover versions (not going into that trend of 1950s/60s covers which were designed to sound as much like the original as possible so people would buy them thinking they were the original), it's impossible to say that all rock covers of pop songs are dud. Because, you know, at least they're taking the song out of context, and trying something new with it. Even if they are twats who can't like non-credible songs without the disclaimer of irony.

cis (cis), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Surely something that makes a good cover is if you can't imagine what it might sound like beforehand. Which obviously isn't true when the Flaming Lips 'tackle' Kylie, say.

Though I like skatepunk covers* because they've become their own little genre, it's accepted practise so the gimmick factor has faded. Whereas indie-band-covers-pop songs is in that infuriating phase between genuine novelty and time-honoured custom.

*not to listen to, in truth.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK, I've checked the story, Beck actually described "Cry Me A River" as "haunted house music". Is this an insult?

Nick H, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The house is haunted with the echo of Justin on TVeeeee....

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

If I was feeling snarky I'd suggest that said indie bands were trying to kid themselves that they actually mattered, but I'm not.

B.Rad (Brad), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

no band matters any more than the next, and fans of any given band are kidding themselves if they think otherwise.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dani Siciliano has done a gorgeous cover of Come As You are, just fyi - has virtually nothing to do with this thread but it's lovely

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 10:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maxwell covered a Kate Bush song, it was great.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 12:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maxwell covered a Kate Bush song, it was great.

Didn't he also get his swarthy loverman spooge all over NIN's "Closer"?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 12:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

nine months pass...
Revive.

If only for

Hit Me Baby One More Time covered by Gary Jules

OH MY GOD!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

I see no reason for indie band to do covers whether the original is good or not. Indie bands are usually fully able to write their own songs, and should stick to that.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:35 (twenty years ago) link

What if there own songs are rubbish, though?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

Hold on, Matt, and back up a post or two...

What???

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago) link

My God it's true.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

If their own songs are rubbish, then some other and better indie band should have their recording contract instead.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

The recent cover of "crazy in love" by Snow Patrol needs discussing! (xpost)

Jole, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:59 (twenty years ago) link

Tom YOU MUST TRACK THIS DOWN. And bring a CD to the next FAP.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:59 (twenty years ago) link

It's like the days when Dom originally posted that were a far more innocent age.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

I have a new life's work.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

http://pub78.ezboard.com/fgaryjulesandthegrouprulesfrm1.showMessage?topicID=62.topic

A disappointing first port of call. Perhaps it doesn't exist. But maybe, just maybe, if we believe hard enough, it will exist...

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:13 (twenty years ago) link

I heard a truly terrible cover of Cry Me a River. Don't know who it was, but Lamacq said they were the next big thing from NYC.

One of the worst worst cover is Speedway's Genie In a bottle. Speedway are the most unnecessary band ever?


lid, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:15 (twenty years ago) link

coversproject.com says it does exist, though.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:25 (twenty years ago) link

Ladytron's "Oops" is like the best song to come out of the noughties period. That said, this argument makes Duchamp's corpse cry.

anode (anode), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 18:48 (twenty years ago) link

How about Richard Thompson's version of "Oops I Did It Again," from his 1000-years-of-popular-music album?

There are certain such covers that can work. Personally, I think it comes down to whether there's real affection for the song. And yes, I think you can hear the difference.


Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

The recent cover of "crazy in love" by Snow Patrol needs discussing!

Agreed, it is ace. Also see The Blankket's cover of 'Hey Ya!' which I still haven't hyped enough.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 04:00 (twenty years ago) link

Affection for the song may be a lot of different things. Like, for instance, you may have the same attitude Travis did when it came to "Baby One More Time", that it was a great song, but it needed to be arranged in a completely different way.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 04:01 (twenty years ago) link

"but Elbow's cover of 'Independent Woman' was very funny

-- stevem"

Yes, yes it was.

Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 04:07 (twenty years ago) link

As is the kittens' video for it on http://www.rathergood.com

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 11:26 (twenty years ago) link

I must second that kittens version of Independent Woman as being awesome.

Jole, Wednesday, 4 February 2004 11:46 (twenty years ago) link

"Baby One More Time", that it was a great song, but it needed to be arranged in a completely different way.

B-but "Baby One More Time" is all about the arrangement....and the melody....and the beat....and the production....and the performance. Oh fuck it, it was perfect and Travis shouldn't have gone near it with their shit stick.

Nick H (Nick H), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 12:11 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Who did that country cover of Snoop's "Gin & Juice" in the 90's? That was pretty hot... I think there were some other subsequent folksy versions of the song.

My point: when a country voice sings gangsta-rap lyrics, you realize that the two worlds and attitudes aren't too far apart. That's just truth, without irony. By the way, mega-pop artists should start cherrypicking through the crates of great punk compositions. Just imagine:

Britney Spears covering Bad Brain's "i against i".
Usher singing "Swallow My Pride" by the Ramones.
Gwen Stefani doing "Straight to Hell" by The Clash.

Alright. I'm dreaming again.


Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Who did that country cover of Snoop's "Gin & Juice" in the 90's?

The Gourds.

Britney Spears covering Bad Brain's "i against i".

Even after her yawnsome take on "Satisfaction"?

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
The cover itself isn't that special, but whoever added the video to it made it special
Rock Plaza Central & Youtube Wonderfulness take on
Sexyback

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Ted Leo/Kelly Clarkson/Yeah Yeah Yeahs

What a twist!

MRZBW (MRZBW), Friday, 19 January 2007 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i did like "creep" by afghan whigs.

bonnie prince billy's live vers. of "ignition" by r. kelly was pretty great.

M@tt He1g3s0n: oh u mad cuz im stylin on u (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 19 January 2007 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no idea who Pink Nasty is, but this cover of "Burn" made me realize Usher's performance on that song didn't have as much to do with my enjoyment of it as I imagined.

Jeff Reguil0n (Talent Explosion), Friday, 19 January 2007 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

nine years pass...

had NPR on while taking a shower the other week and this came on. as he started to introduce it i was like "is he really going to?" which turned into "dude, no, i know this is coming from a genuine place but you can still turn back..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99ATOTj2xVM

it's definitely worse with video.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:40 (eight years ago) link

this is prob about as bad as pop culture gets

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 23:46 (eight years ago) link

holy shit

crüt, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 23:53 (eight years ago) link

omg

dc, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 02:08 (eight years ago) link

The video you posted is private, so I can't see it... What is it?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 13:11 (eight years ago) link

yeah i can't see it either..

posted with permission by (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 13:15 (eight years ago) link

Make that three of us.

Soon Kenny Loggins will look like this (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 13:21 (eight years ago) link

it's Chris Thile covering Kendrick Lamar's "Alright" on mandolin, substituting "brother" for the n-word. it is the most cringeworthy thing imaginable.

crüt, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 13:33 (eight years ago) link


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