C/D Paul McCartney Solo

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Right. In summary, "Spies Like Us" eats ass.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 27 November 2004 23:20 (twenty years ago)

Hey! Stopp dissing Mitchell Froom! He is, like the best producer of the past 15 years, and his productions on "Flowers In The Dirt" were really, really brilliant. I love how he would mix the drums in just one channel, reminiscent of 60s stereo sound, also love how he used a lot of mellotron and old electric pianos. Indeed, I love the entire classic vintage melodic pop approach that is found in his productions. He did even better with Crowded House, but "My Brave Face" is also an absolutely brilliant production!

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 28 November 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago)

Geir, I suppose you think his work with Richard Thompson was also "brilliant," ikke sant?

― Ken L (Ken L), Sunday, 28 November 2004 01:33 (twenty years ago)

Indeed, I feel some of his work with Richard Thompson was maybe a bit too early. He hadn't quite found his style yet by then. The first Crowded House album isn't too strong production-wise either.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 28 November 2004 02:37 (twenty years ago)

I like Rumour and Sigh quite a bit, actually. It's before Mitch's clank and drang production style hit full-tilt.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 05:51 (twenty years ago)

seven months pass...

new album news is out (maybe it's been out for a while). So what happened to Jason Faulkner?

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 05:26 (twenty years ago)

(side story, think i've told it on ILM before?) my friend in LA had a big crush on Faulkner. at a bar she was wasted and told him she wanted to taste his fuck

― The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

― yuengling participle (rotten03), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 06:10 (twenty years ago)

i've hung out with jason a few years ago while he was in paris to work with air and have been friend with his brother, ryan (bez-like dancer with beck these days), since then and last time i met him, he told me jason was working with macca on the album, so...

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

at a bar she was wasted and told him she wanted to taste his fuck

Did he let her?

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha ha — that article says it ain't out until September.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

My dad had a copy of the first McCartney LP so I grew up listening to that as much as the Beatles stuff. *Very* soft spot for it.

― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

Looking forward to this.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Indeed...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

McCartney III!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

...perhaps.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

McCartney III - reloaded !

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

Paul should start doing Brian Wilson style tours where he does a whole album in its entirety as part of the show. Ram should be first up.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

...except it would almost certainly be Band On the Run instead. Boo...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

mc cartney going back behind the drum skins for the first time since the "spies like us" video!

― ZionTrain (ZionTrain), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

Paul McCartney II is one of the best albums of the 80s. I listened to it today -- Temporary Secretary is just flat-out incredible.

― David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 14 July 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)

I once said "Temporary Secretary" sounds like Suicide.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 14 July 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

that out of tune guitar and keyboard loop is genius. i used to put that tune on mix tapes all the time.

― ZionTrain (ZionTrain), Thursday, 14 July 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

You guys gotta hear the bootleg of the originally intended double album version of McCartney II!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 14 July 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)

"Temporary Secretary"'s backing track sounds like a sped-up version of Kraftwerk's "Numbers," which didn't even come out until the following year!

that one's a search, definitely

― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Thursday, 14 July 2005 02:21 (twenty years ago)

in some other thread there is mention of a remix album someone has done of McCartney II tracks

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 14 July 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)

there is a "temporary secretary" remix that someone did. i heard that also. anyone know anything?

― ZionTrain (ZionTrain), Thursday, 14 July 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

How the heck is Here Today disappointing? That song is brilliant. both lyrically and musically it's beautiful!

― MerkinMuffley (MerkinMuffley), Thursday, 14 July 2005 05:15 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

His website - http://www.paulmccartney.com/main.html - has a track from the new album to consider: "Fine Line".

Must say, the song seems rather excellent, as if he really has upped his game. A more frenetic "Let 'Em In" for these times; typically McCartneyesque, yet with more intensity than he's had for decades. Fantastic ominous piano part... This is without question looks likely to be his finest album since "Tug of War".

― Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

"Rock Show" is fairly plodding arena rock fare expressly designed for the then-upcoming Wings Over America tour.

I'd rather call it Badfinger-like powerpop. Which is a good thing.

Generally McCartney solo is at his best with a perfect and polished production, and at his worst when he overdoes his "do it yourself" aesthetic.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 24 November 2006 00:18 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

"Arrow Through Me" is genius, GENIUS. Matthew Weiner OTM.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 January 2007 01:19 (eighteen years ago)

i've been loving the light disco of Goodnight Tonight lately
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izlsX4qLJcs

― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 12 January 2007 01:40 (eighteen years ago)

Use of the word "genius" reminds me of this...

McCartney II [Columbia, 1980]
Paulie's 1970 DIY sounded homemade--its unfinished musings intimated an appealingly modest freedom. This one was recorded on a sixteen-track with an engineer in attendance. The instrumentals are doodles, the songs demos by a man who scores the occasional hit only to prove he's genius. Which he isn't. C

― Tim Ellison = NUMBER ONE ADVOCATE OF YOU-KNOW-WHAT ON NU-ILX!!! (Tim Ellison), Friday, 12 January 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

"Paulie"

― Tim Ellison = NUMBER ONE ADVOCATE OF YOU-KNOW-WHAT ON NU-ILX!!! (Tim Ellison), Friday, 12 January 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

Next you'll have me defend "Pretty Little Head."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 January 2007 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

Matthew, you had me until "'Mumbo is a smoking rocker..." "A" for effort, though.

Matthew you omitted major non-album singles

1971-85 only:

Yes: "Hi Hi Hi," "Live and Let Die," "I Lie Around," "Country Dreamer," "Junior's Farm," "Mull of Kintyre," "Daytime Nighttime Suffering," "Coming Up (live at Glasgow)," "I'll Give You a Ring," "My Carnival."

Ehh: "Another Day," "Little Woman Love," "C Moon," "Sally G," "Girls School," "Goodnight Tonight," "Lunch Box/Odd Sox," "Rainclouds," "Spies Like Us."

Nae: "Mary Had a Little Lamb," "The Mess," "Zoo Gang."

― Dan Heilman (The Deacon), Friday, 12 January 2007 03:29 (eighteen years ago)

TELL ME TO PRESS!

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 January 2007 03:32 (eighteen years ago)

Oops, forgot "Oh Woman, Oh Why." Hearty Yes to that one.

― Dan Heilman (The Deacon), Friday, 12 January 2007 03:34 (eighteen years ago)

Next you'll have me defend "Pretty Little Head."

Not me. I think he was at a low ebb compositionally on that album and the album before.

― Tim Ellison = NUMBER ONE ADVOCATE OF YOU-KNOW-WHAT ON NU-ILX!!! (Tim Ellison), Friday, 12 January 2007 05:00 (eighteen years ago)

(Don't know if he came out of it after. I've never heard Flowers in the Dirt or Off the Ground.)

― Tim Ellison = NUMBER ONE ADVOCATE OF YOU-KNOW-WHAT ON NU-ILX!!! (Tim Ellison), Friday, 12 January 2007 05:09 (eighteen years ago)

I have no idea how I've not posted on this thread. Huge, huge huge classic. NTI's album rundown kind of captures why, I think - moreso than any other rocker of his generation (exception perhaps Stevie Wonder?) Paul managed to keep knocking out middling-hit (at least) singles in support of middling-good albums that managed to each be distinctive in their own way.

For the fan, his discography is rich with oddities, one-offs, half-baked experiments, overly self-conscious experiments, fully successful experiments, frankly brilliant fusions, unexpected detours, really expected detours, shockingly good rockers, embarassingly boneheaded rockers, sappy ballads, crappy ballads, convincing instant-classic ballads, odes to mooses that use Morse Code, and "The cat in the satin trousers said it's oily." The guy is a one-man landscape of gut pop instincts crossed with idiosyncratic overthought left turns. And if you're satisfied by swingin' tunes and enthusiasm there's so, so, so much to love.

Since his albums have been pretty well-discussed here, let me give a heads-up to a few of his many, MANY unreleased gems and uncollected b-sides. In the category of rockers (whether of the pop, stomp, or 'blooze' variety) there's "Oh Woman Oh Why," ("Oh Darling" done right) "Girls' School," "A Love For You" (tho it goes on too long), "Rode All Night" (ditto), "Daytime Nighttime Suffering," "I'll Give You A Ring," "Back on My Feet" (really dated but great), "Cage" (love the calliope!), "Soily"....etc, etc, etc.....

Ballads: "Suicide" (fragmentary though it is), "Lindiana" (don't mind the awful title), "Love Come Tumbling Down," "My Little Koala Bear," (!!!), "Tragedy" (I think this is a cover),

For weird experiments etc, go for "Boil Crisis," followed immediately by "Waterspout," then "Robber's Ball," then all the unused McCartney II stuff, especially "Secret Friend" and "Mr. H Atom." The unused dancey stuff from the mid-80s is mostly dire (eg "PS Love Me Do") but there are some interesting diversions - "Atlantic Ocean" and "Ou Est Le Soleil" for example. At this point we're starting to get into stuff that's enjoyable mainly for how it adds to the "the man's insane" portrait: "B-Side To Seaside," "Little Woman Love," "Big Boys Bickering," and on and on....

― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 January 2007 05:45 (eighteen years ago)

I love how this thread seems to completely ignore Chaos & Creation In The Back Yard . Which is 95 % brilliant ( and I've never been a "rah! rah! McCartney! - type until before this album. Though I do love me some Wings.)

― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Friday, 12 January 2007 09:36 (eighteen years ago)

"Twin Freaks" Y'all!

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 12 January 2007 09:56 (eighteen years ago)

OTM about " Chaos & Creation In The Back Yard". I love the Beatles but have never liked too much Macca's solo output (own "Macca I & II", "band on the run" and "ram") but there is one album from him that I really like and listen to every now and then, it's "Chaos". Might be his best for me. and the best any beatle has released solo. even as good - although different - as some Beatles' stuff !

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 12 January 2007 11:02 (eighteen years ago)

Other good Macca threads where I express myself much more clearly than I do here (alert, Casino fans!):

Paul McCartney: Tug Of War

TS: Paul McCartney's "Pipes of Peace" vs "Press to Play"

― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

D.U.D

― Luke Slater (Alan Bean), Saturday, 13 January 2007 00:34 (eighteen years ago)

no. I like solo mccartney now more than I did when I was a kid and a huge beatles fan, weirdly.

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 13 January 2007 00:35 (eighteen years ago)

there is a "temporary secretary" remix that someone did. i heard that also. anyone know anything?

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-236705-1156668016.jpeg

― jambalaya backgammon (grady), Saturday, 13 January 2007 01:06 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-236705-1156668016.jpeg

― jambalaya backgammon (grady), Saturday, 13 January 2007 01:07 (eighteen years ago)

damnit

http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=236705

― jambalaya backgammon (grady), Saturday, 13 January 2007 01:08 (eighteen years ago)

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