Prog Rock

not really prog, more jazz-fusion

He certainly plays a lot of beats on those albums, ha ha.

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I've always wished someone would sample Bill Bruford's china-boy extravaganza on "One More Red Nightmare".

and the devi influenced tracks by brian auger's oblivian express.

http://www.suckadelic.com/main.html

I have the lotr one, which is only a little bit funny, unfortunately...

South Side Of the Sky
Going For The One
Ritual (!!)
OOALH
Long Distance Runaround
Soon

Vitalski: It's an obvious answer but do you have Yes' Fragile? The second side is a goldmine. Side 2 opens with the first drum and bass track evah! Also check out the intro to "Heart of the Sunrise" and "The Fish" and the basslines to "Long Distance Runaround" and "Roundabout". Neil Peart is another obvious choice.

I find Inner Mounting Flame more or less unlistenable once I got past how virtuosic it is.

Return to Forever (w/diMeola), for ex., sounds more like emotionless showmanship to me. Fun in some ways, in no way deep like Mahavishnu.

I saw them in Lowell at the Paul Tsongas Arena last weekend (the last gig of this leg of their tour; I think the one right after MSG), which they were videotaping I believe for a PBS special and later a DVD release. They played The Beatles' "Every Little Thing" (an early cover of theirs, but very much revamped) as an encore instead of "Soon", plus "Starship Trooper" as the final closer. Great versions of "And You and I", "Ritual", "Turn of the Century"...

Minuses: They did a shuffle-blues acoustic version of "Roundabout" (like Clapton did for "Layla" on his Unplugged)--sounds too cheezy to me. Dean's inflatable set looked very (ahem) Stonehenge like.

That aside, I continue to be amazed at what a great show these guys still put on, since they're all like 55-60 years old. Plus, the a/c that night was non-existent, so it was like 85-90 degrees on stage the entire time for them.

it actually exists. it's actually pretty good.

Area/Demetrio Stratos: C or D

Rustic Hinge's [recorded 1970, not released until '88, former Arthur Brown sidemen, almost certainly the first Trout Mask Replica-disciples] is excellent but you'll probably never find it.

Prog that rocks...

Alan Parsons Project "Stereotomy" (leans towards pop)
Alan Parsons "Try Anything Once" (absolute rock masterpiece)

Anyone watching the prog rock BBC archive footage, followed by documentary this evening?

answer to original poster's question -- Triode On n'a pas fini d'avoir tout vu (with proto-disco flutes!). it played between almost every outside set at terrastock in june and had people a little wiggly

young robert wyatt tardises into the super furry animals after gruff quits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNAiWrzomUk

Yeah, that Wizrd record is really good!

glad you like it, definitely my prog discovery of the year thus far

speaking of VdGG I'm revisiting the 1st album, kinda funny to hear them before they figured their sound out, especially since on "Octopus" they seem to figure it out all at once. what a monster of a track that is. but "Aguarian" is the best track I think

A recent and really excellent discovery, should maybe be on a Krautrock thread, but belongs here as well I feel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh8D0U-lfwY

Funnily enough I was listening to that album last week. I like the track "Big City" but that's it. Stretching the concept of Krautrock to breaking point there. Their second album is probably better.

Loving the first Cairo album, they get compared to ELP a lot but I think I like Cairo more!

i think they really mean it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVbXHQ47YB0

I think this is the right thread.

My friend did this. She's into uhhh The Mars Volta and Cardiacs and other good stuff. It's amazing and I say that with as little bias as I can muster. Leafy and frogbs can vouch for her too

https://april1830.bandcamp.com/album/the-adventures-of-space-pig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rjGhCRvWBc

Great stuff in the last three posts but *taps thread again* but Azure and April 1830 belong in here
Prog V3.0 Discussion Thread

new setlist!!

Tangent -> Spark in the Aether
Jethro Tull -> Cross eyed mary
Tangent -> Spark pt. 2
Echolyn -> Warjazz
Todd - International feel
something else?
Todd - When the Shit Hits the Fan and International Feel pt 2
Can - One More Night
Yes - Yours is No Disgrace
PFM - E'Festa, cut into the end of Yours is No Disgrace
Popol Vuh - some of side 1 of seligspresiung
Frost - Hyperventilate
Rush - Limelight
Nazz - Open My Eyes
ELP - Love Beach...had to troll 'em a bit lmao
King Gizzard - Am I In Heaven?
Animal Collective - end of Alvin Row
Battles - Sugar Foot (with Jon Anderson!)
Cluster - Sowiesoso
Ashra - Sunrain
Genesis - Duchess
IQ - Born Brilliant
Utopia - Communion with the Sun
ELP - Knife Edge
Fripp - Disengage
Renassiance - Carpet of the Sun
Magma - Emehenteaheh-re part 2 (the "Hhai" part)
Gentle Giant - Mister Class and Quality
Zappa - St Alphonzo/Father Oblivion
Riverside - track 2 off some album ?? idk someone brought this
Frost - Day and Age
Wobbler - Fermented Hours
Yes - Close to the Edge
Marillion - Fugazi
Genesis - All in a Mouse's Night
Vdgg - House with No Door
something by Alan parsons??
Porcupine Tree - Trains
Can - I'm so Green
Steve Hillage - Salmon Song
WIZRD - Spitfire
Camel - idk something that ruled
Triumvirat - Viva Pompeii
Rush - YYZ
King Crimson - Frame by Frame
Zappa - Gumbo Variations
King Crimson - Cat Food
Midday Veil - Divide by Zero

Nice! Sowiesoso > Sun Rain > Duchess is a brilliant run

when i was doing that I had Duke on the "Now Playing" sign while Sunrain was on because I don't have that Ashra New Age of Earth vinyl (it's really hard to find!), someone came back and was like "this is blowing my mind, I had no idea Genesis did stuff like this"

You should record it for us next time you do a set, frogbs!

that must have been an amazing time. two requests for the next one -- Ring Van Möbius and Chronicles of Father Robin

good shit! loving that midday veil

the nerd in me wants to ask which version of "disengage"

I would record it but I don't know how!

"Disengage" was the version of Exposure...I forgot there was another one

I've played Chronicles of Father Robin before, that and Wobbler are the two that always make people come back and go "what is this? what year is this from?"

going again tonight. the place is at a cool angle where when the sun sets it kind of hits a window in a cool way, I'm gonna see if I can line up Popol Vuh's "Aguirre" at that moment :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkzt_cDhATg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eq7O5Pn-ow
Never knew about this soundtrack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Butler_(singer)
Hadn't heard of her either but she sings on this

I've been quite enjoying the Aqanesuss album from a couple of years ago, it's Yoshida from Ruins / Koenji-hyakkei and some people I've never heard of playing in more of a classic prog style than his usual. Vocals have an Annie Haslam feel to them, which makes a nice change from most prog singers nowadays who sound like they're auditioning for a Lloyd-Webber musical. Possibly some Fruupp influences in there? Half a point docked for AI cover art, no-one needs that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzATCyZhjSs

finally read Dave Weigel's book The Show That Never Ends. it was pretty good - I can recommend it to anyone who regularly posts on this thread. most of the history I knew already but there was still a lot of interesting stuff, particularly about how this music was received at the time. it's chock full of quotes from the musicians themselves too. it does struggle a bit painting a cohesive narrative, mostly because a lot of the major players had vastly different paths after the 70s...Genesis obviously did really well, Yes had a ton of weird shit going on before settling in as a nostalgia act, King Crimson were mostly successful in their successive incarnations (unfortunately the book was written before their most recent reunion), ELP sort of fell apart. but it does a great job nailing the appeal of this music and making a really good case for it as something different than your average musical fad. It does rely a bit on the "punk killed prog" narrative which I don't think is totally true but it does correctly point out how record company attitudes really did change from 1969 to 1979 in a way that makes something like the golden age of prog basically impossible.

mostly I liked it just to get a sense of the major players. Robert Fripp very much does seem like a massive weirdo. Greg Lake comes off like a massive dick. So does Steve Howe to some extent. But most of the rest seemed cool and generally eccentric in ways that I thought were reflective of the music they made. the Gentle Giant guys seemed to be the most self-aware. unfortunately the book omits a lot, or rather a lot of it is out of scope, but it's plenty long as it is.

i am also reading weigel's book, tho i am only up to king crimson 2nd alb currently, and mainly still learning things i already knew (greg lake very much sucks as a person, this was v widely known back in the 70s even to committed ELP fans lol)

the weaving together of the various narratives is useful: what coincides with what and who was reacting to it, viz yes being grumpy and shocked that king crimson 1st alb obliterated their (much more ordinary) debut

weigel misses or muddles a few things by not being a brit maybe (at one point he says that organs are the kind of music you hear at ballgames; true in the US but was this it relevantly true in the UK? i don't think it's part of a UK musician's associative memory back in that era) and he sometimes places the detail of a tale in a faintly strange order ((needed a slightly sterner editor, tho i realise i always say this) (= hire me! i can improve yr book by being puzzled!)

at one point he says that organs are the kind of music you hear at ballgames; true in the US but was this it relevantly true in the UK?

LOL. Check if Reginald Dixon is in the index.

he is not 😔

most 😳 moment so far is the late gordon haskell -- who couldn't see the point of keith tippett and left KC on pretty bad terms -- long aftwards describing the band as "musical fascism, made by fascists, designed by fascists to dehumanise, to strip mankind of his dignity and soul. It's pure tavistock institute material, financed by the rothschild zionists and promoted by two poncy public schoolboys with connections to the city of london" (weigel's own interview with him i think, footnotes are a pain to navigate in kindle)

anyway this veers zero-to-sixty from just-about justifiable hyperbole -- fripp is very controlling and gets what he wants! -- to theodor-adorno-wrote-all-of-the-beatles-songbook level stuff

gotta respect that level of hate

Check out "Envelopes of Yesterday" by Peter Sinfield for more anti-Fripp invective from an ex-Crimson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHlkaCpgF8Q

There's a new Semiramis album, their first studio album since the 1973 debut, anyone heard it?

I have not, but I did see that the people over at Progarchives really dig it, so I'm definitely curious.

Sounds better than you'd have thought it might!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rEFaHa_zXI

there's a homeless (possibly) guy on my street who hangs out smoking cigarettes and listening to awesome prog rock records on a transistor radio

today it was "halfway there" by slapp happy

it's the little things about portland that i love

my latest "it's a real dilemma that listening to prog rock is supposed to make me feel bad about myself and my life choices" jam is "lightning's hand" by kansas (point of know return)

I just got into Kansas recently! had been avoiding them since I found Carry On My Wayward Son to be obnoxious but I just picked up Song for America and holy hell, what an album, especially the title track. to me this is the missing link between early Crimson/ELP and Rush.

Portland sounds wild, rush...can't imagine I know a single person who even knows who Slapp Happy is. and I know some real dorks.

Man I still have not crossed the Rubicon of exploring Kansas, pretty much because I couldn't stand "Carry On" or "Dust in the Wind" and because a roommate that had that greatest hits thing that was pretty much just those two songs and a bunch of '80s stuff.

First 3 Kansas albums are a weird mix of multi-part prog epics and barroom rock numbers. Leftoverture and Point of Know Return are in a more consistent pomp rock style, the aforementioned obnoxious hits are on these records. Still plenty of prog though! After that they headed off towards 80s soft rock. Later records are more prog I think but copying themselves more than anything, like all older bands do.

their cover of JJ Cale's "Bringing it Back" is really great, one of those covers that's so energetic and fun it kinda ruins the original

Kansas is one of the most interesting bands of their time and it's a blessing that they were so weird and still got big.