― Ally C (Ally C), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 8 October 2004 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link
Should more be said, here, about the gig, in the bar?
I am quite excited, thinking about it.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 9 October 2004 08:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Are you trying Glasgow then, pinefox? Or are you just excited on Glasgow's behalf?
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 9 October 2004 08:29 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't know about another event.
I want Cookie to spill all, somewhere. Maybe I should ring him, and get him to do it on the telephone! If he has a telephone.
― the bellefox, Saturday, 9 October 2004 08:46 (nineteen years ago) link
This thread (http://ilx.p3r.net/thread.php?msgid=5071804) mentions Lloyd being in a pub. I've decided in my head that we may convince him to do an impromptu set, but this is what may be termed "wishful thinking".
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 9 October 2004 09:21 (nineteen years ago) link
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...) (webmail), March 30th, 2001. (link)
Except, Buffalo wasn't on "a fierce pancake", well not the original version. Jeez, if they had to add the track to the album, why bullet 'eager bereavers' which is also brilliant? (Chrysalis records, that is, not the band...) Apart from that, yes.
(Slowest follow on/reply to post ever? 3.5 years?)
― mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 9 October 2004 09:40 (nineteen years ago) link
I only have one phone, currently. The house phone does not work. I wish I knew why.
More on the gig: The Commotions looked GOOD, one or two not even much older, one or two older in perfect trajectory.
Some Lloyd Banter:"I'm trying not to talk as much between songs, because I've realised that I sound like Brian Clough".
(after a raucous, fizzing Sean Penn Blues) "If there was any doubt as to whether I was too old for this...........not any more".
My friend Carey said she liked the ambiguity, there. There isn't really any, though, I suppose. We know Lloyd well enough to know what he means.
Some kind of vaguely remembered setlist:
RattlesnakesWhy I Love Country MusicFrom The HipCharlotte StreetCut Me DownLost WeekendSpeedboatSweetnessBrand New FriendMr. MalcontentMainstreamPerfect Blue2CVAre You Ready To Be Heartbroken?My BagSean Penn BluesPerfect SkinJennifer She SaidForest Fire
The order is wrong, but those are the songs, as far as I remember them.
― Ally C (Ally C), Saturday, 9 October 2004 10:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 9 October 2004 10:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ally C (Ally C), Saturday, 9 October 2004 11:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 9 October 2004 11:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ally C (Ally C), Saturday, 9 October 2004 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 9 October 2004 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link
The set and the banter sound magnificent.
Could the trouble with the phone be the blood?
― the bluefox, Monday, 11 October 2004 12:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 11 October 2004 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link
To-day?
― the bluefox, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 10:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:16 (nineteen years ago) link
But then I read the contents and warmed slightly. And did not buy it.
I kinda went off him when we went to see them at wembley arena, and it was all so 'another day another gig' dull for him, seemingly.
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Last night at the Barras - the anticipation in the air, me feeling like a fraud after last week, the awful support artist ("please buy my album..."), the smell of the place once again.
Lloyd to rapturous crowd: "This is weird, isn't it?"Rapturous crowd: "YES!!"
He looked GOOD, clean shaven and from a greater distance - if he'd dyed his hair, you could almost have been fooled into believing it was 1984 again, if you wanted it to be.
Add to previous set - Four Flights Up and Patience. Cor.
Neil Clark is some kind of demi-god, I suppose. His lines are so articulate, aciculate even, carving their way through sweaty air and hearts and bones and plastic pint glasses.
Lloyd: "I don't know if I speak for the rest of the band, but I'm really old."
I read something about 'Rattlesnakes' being an album of instant nostalgia; I don't know if this was nostalgia or not - it was poignant, certainly. People around their forties rushing down to the front to be close to Lloyd, having grown out and back into that kind of devotion perhaps, or never having lost it but simply having nowhere to place it, to make it relevant; my friend's brother's tale of catching the minibus after school in '85 to see The Commotions play; songs relating to old girlfriends; the final, grand last stand, LC gathering the troops together for, what, not even a bow, just the sense and grace and excitement of being a band again, before walking off. That was moving. A long way down, indeed.
― Ally C (Ally C), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ally C (Ally C), Friday, 15 October 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link
What, Simon Pegg out of Shaun of the Dead?
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 18 October 2004 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 18 October 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 18 October 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― ludesse (ludesse), Monday, 18 October 2004 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link
In other Lllllloyd news: Dave Eggars 'I was a teenage Lloyd Cole fan': http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/fridayreview/story/0,12102,1353957,00.html
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 19 November 2004 10:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Perhaps because the song is actually based on Renata Adler's novel, ahem, 'Speedboat', Dave?
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 19 November 2004 10:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 19 November 2004 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Must read Cook's reporting back!
And thanks, Doc.
― the bellefox, Friday, 19 November 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chris Hill (Chris Hill), Friday, 19 November 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
I will exchange it for something more suitable, I think.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 10:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Emancipation of Baaderonixx (KERERU 4 LIFE!) (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link
OTM. I used to be very fond of this record but lost my copy years ago. I recently replaced it and wished I hadn't bothered. I couldn't believe how badly the production had dated.
― frankiemachine, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link
-- PJ Miller (pjmiller6...), May 25th, 2005.
"Easy Pieces", maybe..
― Amiii Stewart (Amiii Stewart), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 19 January 2006 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 13:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― dr x o'skeleton, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― DAVE's secret to fortu-Oh look! Shiny! (dave225.3), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mallory L . O'Donnell (That Bitch Camille), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link
If you dig into the http://www.lloydcole.com forum, there are rough MP3s of new songs, which seem close to _Music in a Foreign Language_ in style.
― lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Thursday, 3 August 2006 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 4 August 2006 06:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― L Cole (noodle vague), Friday, 4 August 2006 06:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― DAVE's secret to fortu-Oh look! Shiny! (dave225.3), Friday, 4 August 2006 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 4 August 2006 11:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Friday, 4 August 2006 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― DAVE's secret to fortu-Oh look! Shiny! (dave225.3), Friday, 4 August 2006 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, classic. An under appreciated one, for sure. His first solo album LC has the potential to launch him into significant recognition in the USA, but the circumstances did not gel per chance.
I have briefly met Lloyd twice, both times at Mercury Lounge in NYC. First at a Del Amitri (they are friends w/ LC) concert - where after listening to my drivel re my fav LC songs, he predicted (correctly) that I may like his next disc Love Story. The next time was in the late afternoon when he was having a beer while doing his set list for a benefit concert (for Elephants). I was asking the bartender for tickets when he modestly told me that it was not going to be a real LC concert for he would only be playing 5 or 6 songs even though headlining. The concert was quite good, and luckily introduced me to the female Lloyd Cole in the form of one Karen Iris (http://www.karenires.com/).
Ranking the discs:
1 Lloyd Cole X *****2 Rattlesnakes *****3 Love Story ***** 4 Negatives ****1/25 Don't get weird ****6 Easy Pieces ****7 Bad Vibes ***1/28 Mainstream ***9 MIFL ***
we will bypass Etc and Plastic Wood for side projects... looking forward to anti-depressant.
For those wondering what LC would perhaps sound like if he was born in Pennsylvania, sang even more about betrayal, had a fragment of Dylan in his voice, and played quitar more often like Robert Quine -- consider Kevin Salem's Ecstatic and/or Soma City.
Of course LC also gets classic bonus points for being a big influence on Matthew Sweet's GIRLFRIEND disc, even recommending to him to rename, rock-up and imclude the title song.
― JEFF OBRIEN (JOBRIEN), Monday, 2 October 2006 01:49 (seventeen years ago) link